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Prices going down .Cheapest I seen so far. 7600X looks to be a little faster for gaming and cheaper but requires a platform upgrade.
[eBay Plus] AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU $451.62 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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No. AM4 is a dead platform. I want one but only because it is the fastest CPU I can get for my 2017 X370 motherboard.
I'd probably go am5 if I was building from scratch now. But very attractive for 1080p gamers that have am4.
1080p? Isn’t it a bit of overkill or is it mainly for FPS?
If you want high fps or super stable 1% lows.
I'm happy with mine, but as new products and gens come round, it becomes less of a stand out.It's the best and only way to remove the CPU bottleneck on AM4 platforms when chasing high FPS for low resolutions.
1080p?
This is definitely more geared toward unlocking CPU-bound games on 1440p when paired with a decent GPU.I think he means it's the very-high-FPS enthusiasts who care about spending the extra to get these fastest gaming CPUs.
These guys play at 1080p because it's easier to get 240 FPS (than at 1440p or 4k).
This CPU won't get you much benefit at 4k max settings because the GPU is the bottleneck, not the CPU. You won't really see a significant difference between a 5600 and this in most games at 4k, so it's wasted money in most cases.
If you prefer AMD,go AM5, at least you have choice to upgrade after 3-4 years.
at least you have choice to upgrade after 3-4 years.
choice to upgrade up to 3 years, then made up technical issues, then choice is available again 5 years later
I'd still rather wait for a newer chipset on AM5.
DDR5 is ok, but also needs to mature.Saying to go AM5 for upgradability and then forgetting the issues the platform has with running 4 sticks of ram and similar is potentially preparing for disaster.
Call me crazy, but AM4 still has a place for bang/buck builds, and then if you wanna upgrade in 4-6 years AM5 might have some better value options with bugs worked out.
No, 7600 + ddr5 is faster for gaming and probably cheaper for new build. You also have options to upgrade the cpu few years later. 5800x3d only for the people who has compatible motherboard and ddr4 memory.
How many people say this and follow through on the doing. If you want cheap go am4, it still has plenty of power but if you want some upgrade potential years down the track go am5 but you will pay a premium. I'd wait another year before going down the am5 path unless u need the bleeding edge tech.
I just bought new pc and went pure Am4 with this CPU and 3060 Ti because in a few years when I upgrade, I'll buy new mobo anyway. Always have. This way I also dodge first gen AM5 issues
@cobknob: Nvenc for twitch streaming, also I use moonlight for game casting. Also DLSS is superior. 6700xt might be OK purely in frames, but NVIDIA still has all the nice extras.
@GMoney: People keep telling me DLSS is superior, to FSR right? There just AI algorithms with maybe some other extras thrown in. Surely either software can be modified to run on AMD or NVIDIAs graphics cards and be adapted to use what hardware is on board the cards!?
@cobknob: Nvidia uses the hardware AI tensor cores to process the AI upscaling, and I gotta be honest I don't know if that hardware magic sauce is actually needed, but I can tell you DLSS shits on FSR for image quality.
Edge stability is worlds better on DLSS. And frame generation, whether you like it or not, its nice to have the option. I personally think it's fantastic. Story games you can crank the eye candy and still get smooth framerates. Latency takes a bit of a hit, but it's still significantly better than using vsync at 60hz for example.
@GMoney: Good thinking. Main reasons I went this CPU back in January.. gets me a few more years from my 3070 and AM4 combo whilst they refine AM5 or I get tempted back to whatever intel is doing then… That said my PC's last me much longer these days as I'm not chasing to keep up with the latest every 6 months.
No but if you currently have an am4 board you're just paying for a CPU not a CPU + Motherboard + RAM.
For myself and many others, this CPU is a final hurrah before we move on to AM5 and beyond. If you don't have an existing system to slot this into, I recommend jumping straight to next gen.
Purely depends on price. It's a beast of a CPU that's for sure, so if you can save a few hundred of the cost of an AM5 system or the equivalent gen intel, then yes, I would definitely consider an AM4 system.
I'm a frequent upgrader but I'm using this cpu at the moment for mainly productivity and it's a beast, I feel no desire to try my luck with the new gen when my current rig does so well.
But as with all things, price is king. When I'm considering upgrading I always have a few different builds in excel with their total costs at the bottom so I can easily swap parts in and out and see exactly what it will cost me.
5700x for $248 from same seller.
I think I'll buy that to replace an ageing 1700 on x370.
Yup, still an 80% premium for 3D V-cache.
1700 -> 5800x3d would be a dirty upgrade
wow that's the real bargain IMO.
at 4k, difference is 7% if you have a 4090… most of us don't, the difference is probably within margin of error.
I went from 1700 to 5700x. The 5700x was the right choice for me because the power draw is a bit lower than the 5800x and x3d. Paid an extra 50 a week ago though…
Just recently got the 5600x through comp alliance - paid 180$~ couldn't justify the extra 70$ for me nevertheless still a good chip.
If you're gaming only then the 5600x seems like the smarter option.
I've done my research and figured I didn't need the extra cores or performance improvements. The single core performance I was after :)
Or just scratch off the x and get it even cheaper, though there really haven't been many 5600 (non x) deals around.
What did you upgrade from?
Technically a 2600 boxed.
That's what I just did (r7 1700 on X370 to 5700X). Figured I'd use the 5700X for a year or so, then upgrade to ryzen 8000 (or whatever Zen 5 will be called) to avoid first-revision issues.
wait are you saying the first gen ryzen mobos support the 5700x? I thought they only went as far as the 3700x line then used a different mobo? i've got a 1700x as well in a rog x370 mobo iirc and this would be huge for me if true
Look up CPU support list on manufacturers page.
huge news! thanks a bunch!
@Sporange: You will probably need to update you BIOS a few times if you haven't done so before to support the later AM4 generation chips.
There's a whole heap of ryzen cpus that computer alliance have price cut. 5700x $248.82 5600x $194.22 5900x $443.82 with ebay plus
5700x the real MVP here
FWIW USA had an official price drop to USD$289 just barely a couple days ago… this deal is slightly below direct conversion+tax, but just consider it may drop another chunk in a few weeks
So my hopes on $420 is not that far off. Waiting it is!
It's currently around this price in UK with 20% VAT and no vouchers (more like 480 AUD) and has been falling, so i think it will still fall
I'd settle for $420.69.
Is there a particular reason why $420? :-D :-D :-D
Excellent CPU to eek out a little more life from your existing AM4 setup if you don't fancy going AM5 just yet.
Currently using a 3950x, but my system is now mostly used for gaming, worth the swap?
I am in similar boat with a 3900x, temped to get this but a new am5 build with a 7600 or 7700 are also being considered.
For anyone interested in using this for a new build, Hardware Unboxed just did a comparison of 5800X3D, 7700 and 7800X3D: https://youtu.be/XJSXpGZTrio
tl;dr - now that AM5 & DDR5 is getting cheaper, go for 7700 or 7800X3D for new builds.
Haven't looked at pc parts since I built my 3300x 2070s pc, I wanted to upgrade cpu/gpu as well as get a new mobo that supports usb c header for front panel. Should I stick with am4 mobo and this cpu, or maybe am5 and 7600x?
Depends on quality of existing components, amount of ram and budget. Also, depending on what USB-C devices you want to use, I'd probably just get an adapter. If you need a new case, may also be a trigger for a full upgrade.
Personally, I went from a 3600 to a 5800X3D on a system with a 32gb ram and a 3070 but that was prior to the release of the AM5.
If you are upgrading board & CPU you may as well just add the relatively small price of DDR5 and go for the new platform. Look at the 7700 or 7800x3d, they have had some decent deals on the newer 7000 series CPUs.
I have a 3300x and 2060 Super and just can't be bothered upgrading yet. For 1080p literally anything better is a waste.
Dat single-core performance of the 3300x still going strong.
Personally, I'd still stay am4.
64gb ddr4 3600
1tb p5 nvme
750w gold psu
5700x
Fractal case define r7
Aorus v2 elite mobo$1250 using Amazon + PCCG
Absolute Bargain for a fairly well specced server for a bunch of containers, unraid and a virtual firewall and 'good enough' for 95% of people looking for a gaming build if you add a gfx card (and maybe an additional nvme for chonky games)
Ryzen 5 5600: $186
Ryzen 7 5700x: $248 (atl from what I can find)These will be worth it more if you're after perf/$.
OP you might want to add these in as well.
Purchased!
Anyone want to buy my old 5700x? Used for only 1 month lol got it on last month's techfast dealTrade for a 16 pack of Eneloops?
Let me know the price ;)
I still don't know if I should jump or not..
I know that this beats buying into AM5 or 13th Gen if you’re already on AM4 but $450 is still a lot of money for a dead platform. My X370 mobo is 6 years old now. Another 6 months will be some good prices on 13th gen and AM5.
going gen 13 but mother boards seem to have gone up or just being price jacked on this ebay sale …. hate the idea of having a cpu and waiting for motherboard deal …..
Yeah the motherboard prices have delayed my upgrade also. When Raptor Refresh drops in Q3 might see some serious discounts but can’t hold our breathe too much.
Upgraded from 3600 to 5800X3D from the last ebay plus sale. I cannot recommend it enough. Not just more FPS, but 1% lows, etc, have all improved a lot. Not sure why people are debating between AM4 and AM5. This chip is for those that already have the AM4 platform and want a great CPU to slot in there. If you're building from scratch, jump on an AM5, and then slot in a AM5 X3D when they drop in price…
Not so much debate but my X370 mobo is 6 years old and prob due for an upgrade soon anyway
I’ve also got a 3600 and looking into this, what gfx card do you have? Was it a noticeable difference?
Hey Moh, had been using 1080 since 2016. Took advantage of the 6700XT in recent sale, which I haven't slotted in yet. My frames in the games I played still jumped up a lot, because the games I play depend on CPU (War Thunder, for example). That's a another thing to account for - games don't just depend on GPU. You'll see a big boost going from 3600 to 5800X3D even without accounting for GPU. I won't chuck any fps claims at you, I would recommend checking Hardware Unboxed Benchmark's on 5800X3D. They have done comparisons between your CPU and 5800X3D. It is certainly worth the upgrade.
Thoughts on this cpu from 5600x only play warzone gpu is 6900xt
I’m doing this upgrade also. You might get a little bump in average FPS but the real value is in the smoothness, less stutter and better 1% lows. Few people did this upgrade and say their overall gaming experience got better. Warzone seems like a game that would benefit but double check to be sure.
I was looking for this chip, but decided to go with i5 13600K @$437 for my 4090. It's a new chip and can go with ddr4 and ddr5. Also grabbed a Z690 Tomahawk DDR5 @299 to pair with it. I think I'm future-proofed for at least 4-5 years.
I was leaning towards this combo but Z790 tomahawk. Don’t play much games, multithread performance is more important. 13700k is tempting but $600 seems to be lowest price
Z790 is almost the same as Z690. You can spend extra 30% on it but it's not worth it
Is 5600X to 5800X3D worth it? I play game mostly, but sometimes need to multitask other things too like browsers, emulators, etc.
More cores will help for the other task that require it, and if you're gaming in a VM on a server (like me), and it will give you better gaming performance (mainly better 1% lows, etc). Do you need it? probably not. Will it be a noticable upgrade? yeah. Will it make the most out of your platform? yup.
best value cpu chart here https://youtu.be/ghZaQ3T0CRg 20:20
This is based on RRP and US dollars that CPU+M/B+RAM, kinda give you a clue what platform is best value and performance for gaming right now. (special price should have totally different rank)Hodl until second hand price of $200 😂
hmm really tempted to upgrade from my 3700X, but TBH, it is doing fine right now, so I am just upgrading for the sake of it………………
No point if not gaming, also depends on what gpu u got.
GPU is an old Vega 56 on 1440p, as a result, hasn't really been gaming the latest AAAs.
alternative would be to use the money on a better GPU first
If you dont habe am4 and would have to buy a mobo anyway, is this still worth it?