NSW Rego Check Now Include Last 3 Recorded Odometer Reading

thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 11:48
Last edited 19/06/2023 - 12:07

Good news guys, NSW Rego checks now include the last 3 odometer records.
At least a good approached to fight odo fraud in the used cars market.

free NSW rego check link
news : https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-releases/free-odometer-reading

Free odometer reading feature to combat vehicle tampering
Buyers of used cars, trucks and motorbikes are getting an extra level of certainty that the kilometres on the clock of a potential purchase are the kilometres the vehicle has done, with free public access to odometer readings from Monday (19-06-2023).

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Comments

  • GG57 on 19/06/2023 - 11:56
    +1

    I'm not in NSW; where do the odometer readings come from?

    • RichardL on 19/06/2023 - 11:58
      +10

      I'm assuming during the eSafety checks (Pink Slips)?

      • CheapandUsed on 19/06/2023 - 12:13
        +1

        Just checked my car and it is the odometer readings from the last 3 eSafety checks

      • sagrgar on 30/06/2023 - 13:07

        How often can you do the Pink slip checks?
        This is one of the car I was looking at on marketplace

        132,157 km
        9 June 2023

        132,153 km
        7 June 2023

        132,153 km
        23 May 2023

        Since it only shows recent 3 readings, 3 pink slip and you've got clear history.

        • RichardL on 30/06/2023 - 13:32

          Interesting loophole. Hopefully Service NSW has the older readings.

  • pegaxs on 19/06/2023 - 12:38
    +7

    Only good for vehicles over 5 years old and only for the years they have had a rego check. I have 3 vehicles here that fall under 5, over 5 by 1 year and a vehicle that is 10 years old. Under 5, no reading. 6yo, 1 Speedo reading, 10yo, all 3 readings.

    But I think this is a great step forward and a much more reliable system for checking Speedo rollback than the unreliable website scrapers that want you to pay $30+ for a history report.

  • crazyboy on 19/06/2023 - 12:48
    +4

    Checked my current car and the car I sold 2 years ago. Both over 10 years. It shows the odomoter readings. Really useful feature.

    Even useful if you want to check for your own car how much have driven in last 3 years lol.

  • payless69 on 19/06/2023 - 13:13

    How far back does it go if the NSW car is de registered?

    • kerfuffle on 19/06/2023 - 13:30
      +3

      Doesn't work if car is deregistered; checked my old car which was written off in April 2022

  • thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 13:17
    +10

    here is some random rego from the Facebook marketplace,

    good isn't it.

    Odometer readings*
    188,273 km 15 November 2022
    335,057 km 16 December 2021
    329,732 km 26 April 2021

    • kerfuffle on 19/06/2023 - 13:29
      +2

      Dodgy!

      • thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 13:36
        +6

        indeed, and found out that lots of vehicles from the FB marketplace are odo rolled back.

        • payless69 on 19/06/2023 - 13:53

          Bogan QLD would reveal lots more. How about the NT ?

        • rumblytangara on 19/06/2023 - 16:46

          Somewhat reassuringly, I checked ten just now and didn't find any dodgy listings. Perhaps due to scanning for boring family cars.

          What sort of cars were you looking at- totally random listings or specific types of car?

          Thanks for the heads up though, really interesting even if just to get an idea of my own milage.

          • thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 17:32
            +3

            @rumblytangara: Pls check some 120 series Prado or Pajero

            • rumblytangara on 19/06/2023 - 17:55
              +1

              @thsydney: Haha, the very first Pajero I checked:

              190,291 km 14 June 2023
              365,473 km 19 September 2022
              365,403 km 16 June 2022

              I really wish they'd make more than 3 years available though. I can totally see some dodgy cnt messing with the odometer and then selling it a handful of years later. I guess that service books will be the way to go.

          • sagrgar on 30/06/2023 - 13:09

            @rumblytangara: 132,157 km
            9 June 2023

            132,153 km
            7 June 2023

            132,153 km
            23 May 2023

            This is what i found. Since it only shows 3 recent odo readings, 3 pink slips and it looks not dodgy. I guess I'll only be buying from 1 owner with logbook and full service history.

    • Guybrush57 on 19/06/2023 - 16:47

      How to roll back modern cars?

      • Protractor on 19/06/2023 - 18:05
        +1

        Yes, lets advertise it.
        /s

    • coffeeinmyveins on 20/06/2023 - 08:55
      +3

      So since this information is available, why Isn't the RMS providing a "please explain" to these vehicle owners via their registered address and the appropriate fine?

  • Brian McGee on 19/06/2023 - 14:06
    +3

    Surely Service NSW should request more information if a safety check odo reading goes backwards from their records. Why is it up to the consumer to catch the rollbacks out?

    • Guybrush57 on 19/06/2023 - 16:48
      +2

      I agree. Also don't call me Shirley

      • Brian McGee on 19/06/2023 - 17:07

        But that'd take a whole new programming language, all together.

    • Protractor on 19/06/2023 - 18:02

      Brrrrrr.
      Imagine the red tape and shiny arsed bottomless pit dept and how many months after you enquired, you'd get the results back.
      In the end what is the 'deterrent' for the tampering, who is NOW doing any policing (non commercial) and what are the penalties IF anybody has been pinged,yet.
      It seems to me this is an exercise in purely buyer beware, aka here's the sequential odo numbers, now go prove the tampering, and 'maybe' get back to us.
      One thing is for Shirley, Shirley, crooked punters will find a workaround

  • randomusername2017 on 19/06/2023 - 14:50

    Transport for NSW makes no warranty or guarantee as to accuracy of odometer readings.

    • thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 15:19

      when the odometer was rolled back it showed as

      (the following result was random Rego from FB market place again)

      Registration concession No concessions on this registration
      Odometer readings*
      221,350 km 9 December 2022
      300,000 km 1 October 2021

      Inconsistent odometer reading. (Learn more)

      Odometer readings
      Transport for NSW makes no warranty or guarantee as to the accuracy of odometer readings. The most recent odometer readings provided to Transport for NSW, usually by third parties as a result of previous registration inspections are recorded here, however Transport for NSW cannot verify their accuracy. A maximum of three readings will be displayed. It is recommended that customers view the vehicle’s log book and service history and make their own enquiries as to the vehicle’s odometer reading. If the fields are blank, there have been no readings provided to Transport for NSW.

      If you suspect odometer tampering or fraud has occurred, please refer to the Buying a vehicle guide.

      • GG57 on 19/06/2023 - 15:48
        +1

        How accurate would you believe that reading of 300k on 1 October 2021 is?

        • thsydney on 19/06/2023 - 17:36
          +1

          I don’t know how accurate they are but I don’t want to buy those cars. I’ve checked all my current cars and previous cars they all are consistent and accurate year by years.

          • GG57 on 20/06/2023 - 09:11

            @thsydney: I was alluding that it would be almost impossible for a vehicle reading to be exactly 300,000. Which leads to the point that the input is manual, and the system level of accuracy relies on whoever is inputting / recording it.
            In this example, it isn't clear which of the two readings is accurate / inaccurate. It only indicates that one of them is wrong (regardless if intentional or not).

            • Euphemistic on 20/06/2023 - 11:52
              +2

              @GG57: This is a good point and relevant because the info into the system previously wasn’t really used or checked so it’s very possible lazy user input knowing ‘it didn’t matter’.

  • hasher22 on 19/06/2023 - 15:43

    Thanks OP

    I just checked mine:
    86,304 km 16 June 2022
    72,047 km 4 June 2021
    68,030 km 16 June 2020

    I was only interested to see how much KMs I drove and this could be helpful for people deciding their insurance, I know budget insurance offer a lower premium for people who drive less

  • Protractor on 19/06/2023 - 16:03
    +1

    Surely car makers should be tamper proofing via computer stored OBD2 system, or some means?. Pretty sure ppl could tamper with electronic speedo/odo feeds, as is. New & second hand instrument clusters also seem to be the common hack-weak point.
    Once upon a time we used to expect this -now and then- via dodgy dealers.
    I've seen some maths defying odo readings (compared to the log books) in car yards in the last 12 months.
    More good reasons to buy with a written provable history
    Private to private deception via odo reading is the lowest of low. Chooks/emus/dunny door etc

    • Brian McGee on 19/06/2023 - 17:10
      +2

      Most manufaturers imprint the odomenter in the Body Control Module (BCM), Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and other computers around the car. This has been happening for 15+ years (heck even a VE commode has the VIN imprinted in the radio interface module).

      And for the last time, stop calling everyone Shirley!

      • Protractor on 19/06/2023 - 17:55

        So tell me Curly,
        Does that mean that if a buyer did not have that stuff scanned (let's say pre-purchase) they would be unaware of interference, replacement etc ,by a third party?
        It's one thing to have all those numbers line up, but how easy it it to verify? Does it need specific or dealer scanner to access and confirm?

  • Trance N Dance on 19/06/2023 - 16:55

    There's a potential flaw in the system which could make this system useless.
    This is the results of a van with expired rego that's been using one of the local car parks as their storage place

    236,635 km 3 May 2023
    236,604 km 12 November 2022
    407,449 km 12 April 2022

    Rego expired 11/10/22.

    • Protractor on 19/06/2023 - 17:57

      Time travellers? Tardis on wheels?

  • Gdsamp on 19/06/2023 - 22:03

    perhaps this is to help clarify cars that have new/reco'd/replacement engines fitted

    Just checked a privately listed 06 Hilux listed with 200k km's, the site shows 425k in Feb 2022 and 200k in Feb 2023.
    Another 2007 had 220k / 366k/ 232k between 2020/2021/2022
    Of course, no mention of said engine replacement on the ads

    • Tim349850 on 20/06/2023 - 15:12
      +1

      It is against the law to wind back the odo even with a new engine.

      • Euphemistic on 20/06/2023 - 15:13

        This. The odometer is tied to the VIN and vehicle (chassis/body) not its parts.

  • 2esc on 20/06/2023 - 09:04
    +1

    In the past when car sellers roll a speedo back they usually only roll it back enough that looks realistic to the cars visual appearance.

    If a car 500,000 on it they wont roll it back to 50,000 but they might roll back to 300,000.

    They will still be able roll the speedo back but no where near as much. So at least with this system in place a roll back might only be 10,000 or possibly up to say 70,000.

    Well filled out service books are still a good indicator of how the vehicl has been looked after.

  • Boomstick on 20/06/2023 - 10:24

    Very interesting. More so alarming is, governments have the data to prove rollbacks and identify repeat offenders then. Hope they go after these crooks.

  • assetcollector on 20/06/2023 - 11:24
    +1

    My pink slip man writes the odometer reading on the back of his hand or on the rego document.
    Then it is transferred into the computer for the pink slip.
    Room for errors to occur.
    I have a car that has a defective odometer. Same reading for a few years. No questions asked.

  • fleaism on 21/06/2023 - 08:39

    I am sure there was a problem with the odometer history of the vehicle I bought. When the application first came out, I checked it on my phone and noticed that the odometer had been altered. However, as of this morning, the records have been modified. Two pink slips were issued two days apart, and the records indicating the odometer alteration have disappeared. Is such a thing possible?

    Additionally, I came across some information regarding this issue. Is it possible to obtain a pink slip for a vehicle from an old dealer?

    https://www.carify.com.au/resources/battling-odometer-fraud-…

  • Signet on 21/06/2023 - 11:17

    Is there a way to check the odo when you have changed rego? Possibly by means of a PSSR check? I have a car that I purchased from NSW but is now registered in QLD.

  • Greg S on 02/11/2023 - 21:20

    I have a deposit on a 2014 mazda 2 sport for $14,000 as it has 30,509km on the odometer but the last 3 readings are from 2023, have I been scamed? I have deposited most of the money but not yet taken possession of the car. Please help me is there any way to find the truth? Or do I just have to suck it up & hope for the best? These are the only dates I get from services NSW is the some way to get at the truth before it's to late?(If it's not already?
    30,520 km 6 October 2023
    30,514 km 30 June 2023
    30,509 km 28 April 2023

    • Euphemistic on 02/11/2023 - 21:38

      When’s the rego due? That looks like they took it in for a check in April, didn’t get it passed. Took it back in June for another inspection and it wasn’t passed and then back in October when it did get passed. That it’s got virtually no kms on it in between indicates the car wasn’t/couldn’t be driven for that time.

      2014 with 30k km? That sounds too low for me. Years ago a friend bought an older car with ‘only driven to church on Sunday’s’ kms. When she started driving it longer distances quite a few of the rubber hoses let go. Rest of the car was fine, but it didn’t inspire confidence in ultra low km cars.

  • Greg S on 03/11/2023 - 01:59

    Thanks for answering my Euphemisic friend. Sadly i'm not feeling very optimistic at this point :( Strangely the rego's due in 50 days. As I'm buying the car from a caryard i'm wondering can caryards get short rego's just to sell a car? It would not surprise me but 3 times in 8 months is strange to say the least & it will be 4 times when/if I register in 50 days. The only bright point is the car is in immaculate condition & when I looked at the engine it was the thing that sold me on the car as you could eat your breakfast off it, it dead set looked brand new exactly the same as a new cars engine, hmm maybe it was? A replacement maybe. Dang it i'm so confused it's starting to make me feel sick. But thanks for responding nonetheless. Cheers Greg.

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