[Pre Order] DF64 Coffee Grinders: Gen 2 A$557, DF64v A$852 + A$45 Shipping @ DF64 Coffee

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[Pre Order] DF64 Coffee Grinders: Gen 2 A$557, DF64v A$852 + A$45 Shipping @ DF64 Coffee
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bumluffa on 05/04/2024 - 21:14 df64coffee.com (682 clicks)
Last edited 06/04/2024 - 10:02 by 1 other user

Gen 2: https://df64coffee.com/en-au/products/april-sale-batch-df64-…
DF64v: https://df64coffee.com/en-au/products/df64v-coffee-grinder

Highly rated coffee grinders and heavily discounted as part of promotion.

Usually $990 +Shipping at Alternativebrewing for the Gen 2. AFAIK they don't sell the v yet. (https://alternativebrewing.com.au/products/coffee-tech-df64-…)

May also be ATL for the Gen 2 as previous deal had it at USD$399 vs currently USD$359.

Both models appear to be preorder but shipping starting from late April for the DF64v and June for the DF64 Gen 2. There is also another "less preorder" version of the Gen 2 that also starts shipping in late April if you don't mind paying $60 more.

Make sure you select 220-240v for Aus electrical outlets.

At this price I daresay probably best value for money under 1k coffee grinder?

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Comments

    • bumluffa on 05/04/2024 - 21:18
      +17

      If you are comparing this to a Kmart grinder we are clearly not talking about the same playing field hahah

        • bumluffa on 05/04/2024 - 21:20
          +7

          Not if you don't want mud tasting coffee. The grinder is more important than even the coffee machine when it comes to taste. And then at that point if you just wanted to convert a whole coffee bean into coffee grounds without any regard for taste, might as well just chuck the whole beans in a blender and save yourself the $18

        • pointnlarf on 05/04/2024 - 21:50
          +8

          HolyCr4p NFI

        • coconutwombat on 10/04/2024 - 11:35

          A low retention burr grinder isn't even comparable to a kmart blender. This has to be a troll.

    • shiny1 on 05/04/2024 - 21:21
      +5

      If you are happy with the coffee that comes out of the Kmart grinder, then consider yourself lucky. Enthusiast grade stuff is expensive.

      • Nitr0 on 05/04/2024 - 21:22
        +7

        The Kmart grinder is for coffee that you smoke.

        very light roast

    • jv on 06/04/2024 - 10:00
      -8

      Don’t listen to the coffee snobs. I just use my stick blender and it makes great coffee.

      They are just trying to justify the ridiculous price they paid.

      • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 10:18
        +2

        That would make a mess, sounds like you are trying to make a smoothie.

      • G-rig on 20/04/2024 - 11:08

        @jv Just get a sunbeam cafe series conical burr grinder, that blender sounds like a sheet show.
        I reckon you'd be happy with Moccona to be honest, and are just trolling or feel the need to comment on everything.

    • Droz on 20/04/2024 - 10:00

      I'll have a go explaining.

      The Kmart grinder is basically 2 blades that spin. It is an upside down blender. Fine for cutting things up. The longer you run out, the finer the product gets, kind of.

      These expensive grinders use big old burrs that you can control the particle size with.

      Particle size and it's consistency is basically #1 in the coffee world - the rest is just hot water and time

      These will have a very consistent range.

      The Kmart makes everything between fine powder and huge chunks at the same time. Not good for espresso or filter.

      And yes, it does make a massive, MASSIVE difference, and this is why people get obsessed by these things!

  • ozlurker on 05/04/2024 - 21:31

    Isn't this the normal price?
    Still a good price for a grinder of its calibre.

    • darkkito on 05/04/2024 - 22:42

      Think it was cheaper in the past hahaha I specifically posted a deal for their website a while ago and DF64v* was 860 shipped

      • ozlurker on 05/04/2024 - 22:48

        Probably just currency exchange

  • ilikeit on 05/04/2024 - 21:46
    +5

    Love my DF64. Obliterates my Breville Smart Grinder. I regret not getting a decent grinder years ago.

    • slipperypete on 10/04/2024 - 14:50

      same with me. I have literally no taste buds but the difference is phenomenal, whether espresso or aeropress

      • G-rig on 10/04/2024 - 14:55

        Good review. Did you get the v model?

        • slipperypete on 10/04/2024 - 21:21

          Hey G-rig I have the original. I would love the upgrade but will be happy with mine for a while yet.

          Are you thinking of buying one? They also sound better when grinding lol

          • G-rig on 11/04/2024 - 09:51
            +1

            @slipperypete: Not anytime soon I guess but one day.
            Bit quieter would be nice, ha.

            • slipperypete on 11/04/2024 - 10:15

              @G-rig: It's a bit like Pavlov's dog now.

              When I hear that grinder noise my mouth waters

  • pointnlarf on 05/04/2024 - 21:47

    These are great grinders but they are private labelled generics? Correct me if Im wrong but they can be sourced via Ali and the like cheaper?

    Agree though, this is an excellent price for the v2.

    • darkkito on 05/04/2024 - 21:54

      turin is the company, most likely other generics are actually based off this model and modified.

      However you cannot source this cheaper from Ali or taobao etc just because df64coffee is the chinese company that sells these products directly.

      Also I don't know why I didn't mention it, TOMPOLANDCOMMUNITY if you use this code its further 10% off.

      I preordered my df83v in feb but they are delaying it by another month for delivery which is annoying.

      • lewl on 05/04/2024 - 21:59
        +2

        Unfortunately, no discount codes worked with this preorder price. I got really excited but I tried everything I could find - even the 5% off codes didn't work.

        Using asaf10off brings the regular stock df64 gen 2 price lower than this preorder one, and it ships supposedly sooner.

        • darkkito on 05/04/2024 - 22:41

          huh, thats really unfortunate, they must have patched it with the increase in demand lately. I think the final price for DF83V* pre order was 1174$ including shippinng.

        • fookos on 06/04/2024 - 01:49

          Note this on the web listing:

          “No discount code usage allowed, due to the limitations of options, payment will be requested if you apply any codes.”

      • caprimulgus on 06/04/2024 - 00:15

        Turin is just the (one of) American companies with a distribution deal with the manufacturer. Turin isnt the original product by any means - they contract with the manufacturer just like any other distributor, so are no more or less "original" than the others. They are all just rebrands of the original OEM product out of China (with certain tweaks requested by different distributors) - Turin is no different from the rest!

        (Well, manufacturers plural: I think not all the Turin products are from the same manufacturer, they source products from different OEMs. Not 100% sure, because I haven't kept track - only keep a vague eye on them, being in Joe Kolb's groups, etc.)

  • bilbies on 05/04/2024 - 22:09
    +8

    BE AWARE

    I had a horrible experience with this company: the grinder arrived faulty out of the box and the first thing they did is blame me for it then they bluntly refused to replace it and wanted me to pay for the repair sighting that their warranty covers DIY repair while they supply parts only, after you pay shipping.
    Never had such poor after sales experience!

  • kiitos on 05/04/2024 - 22:11

    How do these compare to Niche and Timemore Sculptor?

  • sp3ctr41 on 05/04/2024 - 22:22
    +1

    As someone who knows nothing about grinders, why should I replace my Breville Smart Grinder with this? What do you get in the V over the Gen 2 and is it worth it?

    • bumluffa on 05/04/2024 - 22:24

      Basically, the entire fundamentals of coffee and what it tastes like comes down to consistency of the grounds. The more you can get each little granule of coffee the exact same as the others, the more velvety, smooth and tasty your coffee will be. Because each granule of coffee will have its flavour extracted into the water the exact same amount. That's why the grinder is more important than the machine, because a high quality expensive grinder is good enough to get those grounds as identical to each other as possible.

      Have a look at the grounds your SGP produces next time and see just how inconsistent they are

      • sp3ctr41 on 05/04/2024 - 23:20

        Okay sweet, do these grinders come with the au plug (after selecting 240v motor) or is it just an adapter?

        • JRozells on 06/04/2024 - 02:14
          +1

          It comes with a UK plug so you'll need an adaptor

          I switched from a SGP to a DF64 Gen 2 with SSP burrs and the difference is night and day. My coffee grinder have a lot more consistency and clarity.

          • boshek on 08/04/2024 - 14:03

            @JRozells: Second this. I did the switch two months ago and the uplift in coffee and consistency is noticeable. I can't speak to how the DF64 gen2 compares to, say, niche or timemore. But it definitely is better than the SGP.

    • bilbies on 05/04/2024 - 22:31

      V is a shrunk knockoff of a reputable Australian brand Option-O grinder Lagom 64; The V build is inferior compared to the Lagom 64.
      Gen 2 is an improved version of flawed df64 gen 1.

    • ozlurker on 05/04/2024 - 22:46

      The smart grinder isn't that consistent of a grinder, build quality isn't the best as well. It struggles to grind fine for specialty light roast.
      Bear in mind that these are single dose grinders so you have you weigh out your dose before grinding, this means you can store your coffee to retain freshness and not have to purge a few grams everyday before making your coffee.
      V has a nicer build and variable rpm control, if you're after taste the Gen 2 is good enough, spend the extra on burrs instead as that makes the biggest difference. If you want something that looks and feels nicer, the V is one of the best at this price point.
      If you're drinking milk drinks also consider the varia vs3.

    • Sleepycat3 on 06/04/2024 - 00:56

      A Breville Smart Grinder is fine for most beans, especially dark roasts. But when you use lighter roasts, you may need to grind finer than the Smart Grinder is able to achieve. I have the Smart Grinder too, and my single origin needed such a fine grind that I starter getting burr on burr contact with it. I upgraded to the DF64V, and the minimum setting of the Smart Grinder was similar to the 15 setting on the DF64V with the stock DLC burrs.

      DF64V is brushless and has variable RPM. It is also slimmer. Gen2 is newer, but doesn't have variable RPM, but does have an ioniser so that you don't get fines flying everywhere.

    • flashback on 06/04/2024 - 08:32

      Grinder is where you should spend the dollars in coffee. I had a massive upgrade in taste and consistency when I upgraded from a Smart Grinder to a Niche Zero, and I mainly drink milk drinks.

      • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 08:48

        Yeah I hear this a lot. Bit like 'spend more on an amp than the speakers haha'.

        I mean it would be better but not essential at 2-4x the price of cheaper grinder. Most of it is technique and care.. the WDT tool helps.

        • Sleepycat3 on 09/04/2024 - 13:06

          I've done lots of technique and care with the SGP, but after 10 years, I had reached the limit of what the SGP could do with its burrs, even with the manual manual burr adjustment. Once I went to DF64V, it was like a whole new world was revealed. Suddenly my light roasted coffees stopped pissing out like diarrhea. Suddenly I could go even finer to explore the different extraction and flavour profiles. Suddenly I could grind slower for a more consistent grind size for clarity, or grind quicker for a wider profile and more body.

          Going from the SGP to a DF64V is not like swapping a $200 Kmart bicycle for a $2000 Specialized road bike. It is like swapping it for a car, it gives you the ability to go further, access places that you would not ever tried and get a whole new experience.

          • G-rig on 09/04/2024 - 13:12

            @Sleepycat3: Interesting, so not 10x better but 50x better?
            What machine you using with. Pissing out everywhere doesn't sound good at all. My grinder is well suited to the coffee machine (Gaggia classic pre 2015), costs $500 all up for both new (years ago). Have done some worthwhile mods and maintenance.

            Mine is good enough, but no doubt people who have bought X will swear by it to justify the purchase (like most things).

            Anyway I'm sure it's worthwhile but then you'll want a better espresso machine too, and before you know it you're up to $3k.

  • melon92 on 06/04/2024 - 00:26

    The df64 gen 2 or specialita?

    • carlJack on 06/04/2024 - 00:51
      +1

      Df64 gen 2

    • bilbies on 06/04/2024 - 08:52
      +1

      Specialist - much better build quality and can be used as a single dose and with a hopper.

      • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 09:26

        Looked it up, $699.
        I always just grind straight into portafilter basket (group handle), no reason not to. Then again not making 10 coffees in a row.

      • bumluffa on 06/04/2024 - 10:00

        I heard it has bad retention and the dial is terribly small so if you ever want to change up your coffees it's a nightmare to dial in again

        • darkkito on 19/04/2024 - 18:52

          Its honestly not that bad as people claim, I currently own specalista and in previous had breville SGP, DF83 and a starseeker edge.

          In all honesty its not the best for single dosing but for dumbed down family dosing where you can just set a grind size and a time it does its job super well. I mostly get maybe maximum 1 gram but on average 0.5 derivations consistently.

          I think the people who do complain about having to dial in is not actually remembering to "flush" some grounds away so they can get their new desired coffee ground size.

          The build quality is super solid and retention honestly doesn't matter if ur not going to be using it to single dose considering anything deisgned to be used with a hopper is the same.

          Considering also with anything with bellows, you don't actually want to bellow the last bits of your coffee out which is where all the super fines are.

          So I do have the disagree about dailing in since its super consistent for me.

      • Sleepycat3 on 09/04/2024 - 13:06

        So many issues with the Specialista in the reviews.

  • carlJack on 06/04/2024 - 00:51
    +1

    Wow.. that's a great price. I paid $650 for my gen 1 V4.

  • JRozells on 06/04/2024 - 02:12

    I bought a DF64 Gen 2 from DF64coffee a little while back and it's fantastic! However, I don't think the price comparison between DF64coffee and Alternative Brewing isn't entirely fair for a couple of reasons:

    • DF64coffee is known to have poor post-sale customer support, especially compared to reputable companies like AB. They are based in Singapore so you won't be backed by the ACL if something goes wrong and they don't want to honour your warranty. Personally, I contacted them once about a problem and they were quick to respond, but the problem resolved itself so I didn't have to go through a returns process.

    • The grinder from DF64coffee comes with a UK plug, AB's is an Australian plug. This isn't a massive problem as adaptors are cheap but it is still mildly inconvenient. You can easily cut the plug and replace it but it would almost certainly void its warranty.

    • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 05:54

      Is it just one of those computer/monitor cables?
      Getting an adaptor is painful but probably have one.

      PS I read ages ago that you still need to mod or tweak the normal DF64 machine? Not keen on outlaying on the V model but feel I could use something better (and quieter than the em0480. Still does the job but bit clumpy (wdt tool mostly fixes that).

      • JRozells on 06/04/2024 - 18:32
        +1

        It's a fixed cable so you'd have to cut it and rewire it if you want to change it.

        The older DF64 models required a bit of modding to fix issues such as static, popcorning, and clumping. Gen 2 fixes all of those issues. You can still mod Gen 2 but it'll more be for matters of personal preference rather than for performance improvements. Keep in mind that the kind of people that use the DF64 and say it needs modding are the kind of people who are very particular about their grinders. They are the kind of people who often have multiple grinders and a large budget for coffee equipment. In other words, issues they have with the grinder, you might not notice since you're coming off a cheaper grinder. I previously used a Breville Smart Grinder Pro and its leagues better than it. The DF64 Gen 2 is probably the best grinder in its price range and it outperforms grinders more expensive than it.

        I still DMT after grinding but far than before when I used my Breville SGP.

        • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 19:18

          Thanks for the info. Be nice if it was right angled cable like the gaggia, but too much to expect. Will keep a eye out for the DF54, sound promising

    • bilbies on 06/04/2024 - 08:54

      The very small price difference between buying direct or from the local distributor justifies buying LOCAL and getting a decent after sale support.

      • bumluffa on 06/04/2024 - 10:01
        +2

        I wouldn't say $400 being almost double the price here is a small price diff

        • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 10:58

          Exactly - people just say 'just get this or that' and it goes from $170 to $500 to $700 very quickly 🤣.

          Have a look at the Sunbeam Cafe Series grinder, used to be about that price. I have had the EM0480 for many years and it's a beast - will go forever not like all these electronic ones (more things to go wrong). My coffee is easily as good or better than most cafes if you got the know-how!

        • Nitr0 on 06/04/2024 - 13:26

          Normally I'd agree, but the local ones come with DLC burrs, Aussie plug (i know, only worth a dollar or two but some folks aren't handy) and some other bits and bobs.

          with shipping +burr upgrade the diff comes down to a couple hundo's. For the stuff around with df64coffee warranty (ships from Singapore) it may be worth waiting for an ebay code to get it cheaper locally.

          • bumluffa on 06/04/2024 - 18:00

            @Nitr0: Ehh you can upgrade to the dlc burrs for an extra $60 but from what I've read it's really the slightest of upgrades and more related to slightly better durability than taste of coffee. Imo not even worth the money. Warranty I can give you that though but worth an extra $350? Idk about that…

  • Quickshot on 06/04/2024 - 06:41
    +2

    I reckon DF54 would be a better buy when it's out later this month. You can get it from a Aus supplier for $450.

    • G-rig on 06/04/2024 - 07:38

      Better price will keep an eye out for it.

    • caprimulgus on 06/04/2024 - 12:23

      Yeah - unless you specifically wanted access to 64mm burr size (for SSP etc). If not, then I'd probably go DF54 personally.

    • MonkDog on 06/04/2024 - 19:55

      Oh… I hadn't heard about the DF54, it seems have slipped in under the radar a bit. It does look like a decent option.

      • bumluffa on 07/04/2024 - 09:28

        https://df64coffee.com/en-au/products/df54?variant=441029126…

        The df54 is already available at this store for $357+shipping. So a lot cheaper than the others but also I thought bigger burrs generally = better. The listing itself also refers to better grind quality on the 64 gen 2

        • G-rig on 10/04/2024 - 11:36

          Interesting looking at the comparison table - no doubt the 64v2 is better in every way (unless you want more compact), but you pay for it.
          Stands to reason.

          • MonkDog on 10/04/2024 - 21:58

            @G-rig: I watched a couple of Youtube videos of it, and it there didn't seem to be that big a gap between them. Yeah, it's a bit slower, but still a good grinder.

            Although I've got a first gen DF64, so I don't need a grinder, but if this was out when I was looking, I probably would have gone for the cheaper option to be honest.

  • Black Hole on 06/04/2024 - 12:00

    Any info on DF64v vs Gen2 and what Burr to opt for. I am currently using the Profitec Pro M54 Coffee Grinder with my Profitec pro 500. I just wonder what is the advantage of these new generation grinders have over the old grinder tech.

    My bottomless porterfilter has indicated to me that I have achieved even distribution and filtering with the current setup.

    • Quickshot on 06/04/2024 - 12:40
      +1

      You will not find a noticeable difference in the cup of coffee.
      You already have a great grinder the only difference you will find is that it's has a lower retention and static. People who likely to buy these grinder are upgrading from entry level grinders, for you I feel it's like a side step.

    • Sleepycat3 on 09/04/2024 - 13:11
      +1

      DF64V has variable speed and a brushless motor. The Gen2 has fixed speed, brushed motor but has an ioniser to reduce static.

      For burrs, it's a personal preference. I actually like the DLC burrs that come with the DF64V. I also have a set of SSP cast lab sweet in Red Speed 64mm. The cast burrs are much better for my filter coffee, but the DLC burrs seems to be better for espresso and even milky coffees with the colombian single origin that I drink (Agrobeans)

  • jaimex2 on 06/04/2024 - 13:15

    Is this suitable for espresso?

    • Nitr0 on 06/04/2024 - 13:30
      +1

      Perfect for espresso, yes. infinite adjustment from too fine to whole bean, so good for just about any drink.

      It is loud though. If bedroom is near wherever you get your caffeine on wrap a tea towel around it and or sit it on some rubber padding or expect some outrage.

  • Signet on 07/04/2024 - 12:56

    How does it compare to those cheap ones I see on Temu?

    https://www.temu.com/au/goods.html?_bg_fs=1&refer_share_id=I…

    • Sleepycat3 on 09/04/2024 - 13:12

      No comparison. Even a SGP is better than that Temu one.

  • Jono454 on 12/04/2024 - 08:14

    Ordered. Cheers OP!

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