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[VIC] 100% off Work Car Registration Renewals for Trade Apprentices @ VicRoads

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[VIC] 100% off Work Car Registration Renewals for Trade Apprentices @ VicRoads
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tightarse on 10/04/2024 - 19:33 vicroads.vic.gov.au (830 clicks)
Last edited 10/04/2024 - 19:53 by 2 other users

Free rego is a great incentive for apprentices to help with rising transport costs. Normailly costs up to $877. Stay safe, and enjoy :)

You are eligible if:

  • you are an apprentice registered with the VRQA, or a Victorian apprentice who is undertaking an apprenticeship in South Australia or New South Wales.
  • you are currently employed in an approved training scheme.
  • you are using your own car, ute or van for approved work purposes, or you regularly use it to get to or from work between 8:30 pm and 5:30 am. The vehicle cannot exceed 4.5 tonnes GVM.
  • you hold a current Victorian driver licence (not a learner permit).
  • you are a Victorian resident.
  • you've received your registration or renewal notice.

How to apply:

  • When your next rego renewal notice arrives, jump on the VicRoads website to apply for the discount. You will need your VRQA registration number, vehicle registration number, and driver licence number. VicRoads will check your details with your employer, so make sure your employer supports your application before you apply.

You can’t apply for this discount if:

  • you are a learner driver.
  • your licence is expired, cancelled or suspended.
  • your vehicle is registered in someone else’s name.
  • you have an apprenticeship discount already applied on another vehicle registered in your name.

Note: You may have another vehicle registered in your name with another concession type. (e.g. Health Care Card).

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    • SBOB on 10/04/2024 - 19:50
      +23

      in fairness, public transport for tradies is somewhat impractical right?
      tools, supplies, various locations where the work wont be anywhere adjacent to a public transport location.

      (all for better public transport, but its unlikely to be of any benefit to an apprentice tradie)

      • Mechz on 10/04/2024 - 22:17
        +4

        Also it's hard enough to get a tradie as it is, imagine if they were standing around half the day waiting for public transport.

        • DrScavenger on 11/04/2024 - 13:12
          +1

          Yea you literally get paid while studying. How's that hard? Every normal uni student has to PAY to study. Entitled tradies

          • jjjaar on 11/04/2024 - 13:56

            @DrScavenger: Students having to pay to study (and those with unpaid placements) is a whole different discussion and one worth having, but whataboutism is never the best way to do this.

            • DrScavenger on 11/04/2024 - 14:49
              +1

              @jjjaar: Yea. I'd rather have nurses paid during training. No sane Australian should be a nurse or teacher. It's insane how strong and how much incentives tradies get compared to others. They not only start accumulating wealth much earlier they can also get paid pretty high when they finish training. Plus tax incentives

              If you love your children don't get them into med or education sector. If they manage to be a doctor then good but make them work outside.

              Unless you are a dentist. Because they successfully lobbied against the interest of Australians.

          • brad1-8tsi on 19/04/2024 - 07:53

            @DrScavenger:

            Yea you literally get paid while studying. How's that hard? Every normal uni student has to PAY to study. Entitled tradies

            Have you ever done a trade or been apprenticed?

            I did a motor mechanic apprenticeship.

            Year1: make coffee, get morning tea and lunches, sweep & mop floors (including getting right into the corners with a scraper), clean benches, clean tools, clean parts, anything else that needed doing besides touching a motor vehicle AND the bonus of being the subject of hazing and bullying rituals.

            I was paid $63/week gross which in 2024 dollars is $356/week. Tax was deducted at 33.5% even though you didn't earn enough to pay tax ($3900 threshold). I paid 20% of my gross as board. Of the $13 remaining I paid for fuel for the 40km daily commute, parts with 20% sales tax to repair my 12yo car and all the other overpriced things you needed in 1979 Australia.
            Some of my mates at TAFE didn't live at home and had to make their $26 pay rent and buy food.
            You had to buy your tools. My first kit was $400 and it wasn't tax deductible because YOU DIDN'T EARN ENOUGH TO PAY TAX.
            TAFE was 1 day per week and you had to pay your fees up front and the employer reimbursed you at the end of the year if you passed your exams.

            Year 2 was a $82/week ($420 2024) and you got to do oil changes and remove wheels! 1 day/week TAFE.

            Year 3 $108/week ($505 2024) which made you feel rich after 2 years of scrimping. I was left to my own devices and worked on whatever the boss pointed at because he was hungover in the crib room most days. I just taught myself. :-).
            1 day/week TAFE and I gamed the system and started a Cert in Mech Technology and got another half day at TAFE (and 2 nights in my own time which stopped me from spending money)

            Year 4 $127/week ($535 2024) No TAFE and you were supposed to be as productive as anyone else on the floor.

            On completion, as a qualified mechanic I was on a flat $250/week ($956 2024)

            I left 6 months after being released from my indenture and started as a qualified mechanic (who knew SFA) I was on above award $220/week ($840 2024) but was on a bonus system which bumped you another 40% if you achieved targets.

            I agree though, placements for nurses, teachers, etc should be paid

            • DrScavenger on 19/04/2024 - 14:23

              @brad1-8tsi: Things have improved a lot for tradies. I guess you did it some time ago?

              Hazing bullying dumbass rituals can happen anywhere. People are shit. It happens in the office environment too.

              You get it as return. Again not a tradie thingy. And it doesn't happen anymore. Young tradies have very little tax cut in paycheck.

              40km daily commute is screwed up but again that's specific to you. That's why we need better PTV too.

              Businesses provide tools. Things have changed old man. Tradies in training don't have to bring their own tools. They can get them when they become sole trader.

              Again, employer reimbursing at the end of year isn't a thing anymore.

              I bet people who were doing typical University courses also had those problems but they also had to work at a cafe for shit money just to stay alive. Because they wouldn't get paid to study.

              If I ever have a kid ( good riddance no!) I'd tell them to be a tradie and kick them out of house if they decided to be a nurse or teacher.

              • brad1-8tsi on 19/04/2024 - 18:48

                @DrScavenger: You haven't answered the question. Have you done an apprenticeship or trade?

                And I don't know of any mechanic beyond government workshops that doesn't supply their own basic hand tools.

                You imply that processes are universal but you'd be wrong.

                Long commutes? I was dealing with 2 apprentices last year. One commuted Wollongong to wherever in Sydney he was needed. The other Penrith to wherever he was needed. It's near impossible to drag your tools around on PT.

                "Things have changed old man". You are really stooping that low? What's next "boomer"? Get over yourself

                • DrScavenger on 19/04/2024 - 20:35

                  @brad1-8tsi: No. I wish. I wish I was an electrician.

                  Well the factory I worked at supplied tools to technicians.

                  That's why companies should give the tools for apprentices.

                  Not really. Nothing wrong with being old. I sometimes wish I was older so I could have bought some property instead of being locked to permanent rental.

      • DrScavenger on 11/04/2024 - 13:11
        +1

        So? This benefits a small section of society. Better PTV benefits everyone. Not to mention there's trade schools where they don't bring their fancy tools

      • brbgrcgukdhreuin on 11/04/2024 - 14:57

        Train carriages are full of tradies before 7am, so I guess it works for them.

        Depends on the trade/job — if you're working on a big CBD development the bulk of your tools and materials are on site already.

        How about extending the tertiary public transport concessions to apprentices?

        Or offering equivalent specialised transport subsidies for tradie-suitable electric cargo-bikes like this: Reddit: My truck has two wheels, which can easily cost $8k-$15k fully kitted out.

        Before any of you carbrained types get upset about the prospect of giving $$ to encourage more f'ing cyclists and pedestrians — each one of them means one less car in your way.

        • brad1-8tsi on 19/04/2024 - 18:49

          Love the bike! I'd be in it.

    • JIMB0 on 10/04/2024 - 20:09
      +35

      Can't tailgate someone while towing a trailer and talking on the phone if you're on a train.

    • willy000 on 11/04/2024 - 08:03

      I take it you have never used a tools for work.

    • BargainBuddy on 12/04/2024 - 21:58

      That's an inconsiderate comment. While PTV might suit your needs and schedule, it's not the same for everyone. Carrying my laptop to the CBD is a pain in itself. Now, think about all sorts of tools and equipment a tradie needs to carry.

  • SBOB on 10/04/2024 - 19:49
    +2

    🍿
    whats the over/under on this being a well reviewed deal…

    • tunzafun001 on 10/04/2024 - 19:58
      +1

      I'm taking a short position…

  • King Steuart on 10/04/2024 - 19:49
    +1

    But it's not just one, two, three. You get a trade apprentice! You get a trade apprentice! You get a trade apprentice! Everyone gets a trade apprentice!!!

  • StealSeeker on 10/04/2024 - 19:51
    +37

    Nice incentive for a P plater tradie in his ford ranger tailgating the hell out of driver in front.

  • agvwww on 10/04/2024 - 19:52
    +2

    Dark communism clouds…

    • blewey on 10/04/2024 - 20:11
      +5

      inshallah

  • Somu on 10/04/2024 - 19:52
    +22

    More free stuff great. Shouldn't all workers be treated equally why do some get free stuff? This has been going on for a while here. The normal tax payer pays for all this. money better spent on improving infrastructure.

    • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 01:58
      -6

      Mate, when you are making garbage pay for up to 4 yrs 45-50K im this economy getting free rego is a ducking joke!!

      • JDearyMe on 11/04/2024 - 08:12
        +9

        You're forgetting that people who aren't doing trades are probably at Uni making 0k and receiving far less hand outs from the government. Plus also paying for their degree. You've absolutely 0 to complain about.

        • Wokstar on 11/04/2024 - 10:20
          +1

          Yep all those unpaid placements and being on junk internship wages and then being held to a crappy EBA when the unions don't do their jobs properly and get squeezed by the govt… Must be a great life to have smoko twice a day and tools down when it gets too hot…

        • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 11:03
          -4

          Aus study.. more people on that and way more money spent on it.. plus health care cards.

          Not to mention low interest on HEX debit.

          By comparison this is nothing.

          You try and live off $42k a yr after tax for 4 yrs. Its not sustainable and why we have such a skills shortage.. barrier of entry to anyone who's not living at home is stupid hard.

          • JDearyMe on 11/04/2024 - 11:46
            +3

            @vash5: Mate you're really not getting it. Aus study works out to be about 16k a year. Health care card for 50% off prescriptions? Huge savings for your average uni student…

            If you're studying that's essentially a full time job (30-35ish hours of study/classes a week). But most also work an extra 20-30 hours a week on top of their studies to make ends meet (which reduces your Aus study payments to compensate). Oh and they're racking up a 10k a year debt to be indexed at inflation rates. Then after your degree and are a grad you're on barely more than the average apprentice anyway!

            You're complaints that apprentices have it hard compared to their average counterparts is totally unfounded and untrue. $0 course fees. Government rebates on huge expenses. PLUS a 40-50k a year wage when you're 19 and most likely still living at home? Tradies have it ridiculously cruisy and the fact you don't realise is wild

    • EFC94 on 11/04/2024 - 08:51

      On the flipside, you need the tradies to build the infrastructure. So this is helping you achieve what you said in a different way.

      And I'd say this scheme isn't costing the government much money in the big picture.

    • dealman on 11/04/2024 - 09:54
      +2

      Because these people are union members and labour voters so they get special privileges..

      • hazzad on 11/04/2024 - 11:16

        Bingo. We have a winner. The exact reason behind this scheme..what a joke. Let's subsidize tradies whining 5 years will be gouging us all to the ears. Everyone has to do their time when they start out. Why do tradies get special treatment?

    • pencilhead on 11/04/2024 - 13:17

      My kid is apprentice, He gets $12 / Hr. Not exactly equal.

  • tp0 on 10/04/2024 - 19:55
    +20

    They should make dual cabs with lift kits ineligible.

  • pakkapie on 10/04/2024 - 19:57
    +14

    Don't trades get allowances for driving to sites already, which in turn cover costs like this?

    No issue with the concept, but perhaps more low paid could be offered incentives too, instead of 1 particular group?

    • Binchicken22 on 10/04/2024 - 19:59
      +8

      I guess the idea is to "encourage" more people to take up trades, as we are obviously desperately in need of them to keep up with the huge immigration numbers Labor is pumping into the country each year to keep the Ponzi scheme afloat.

      The only way out of this "rental crisis" people keep banging on about is to unlock more land and build more houses.

        • buffalo bill on 10/04/2024 - 20:06
          +17

          Pretty sure wanting a sustainable population level and allowing housing and infrastructure to catch up is not bigotry.

            • Binchicken22 on 10/04/2024 - 20:12
              +8

              @tp0: Ahh yes, that old chestnut, "We need more immigrants to build more houses for all the immigrants"… A never ending loop.

              Not to mention it's something like less than 5% of our immigration intake end up working in construction within 5 years of moving here, so it doesn't even hold up to basic fact checking.

              • Tiggrrrrr on 10/04/2024 - 20:18

                @Binchicken22: But we need more immigrants to drive rideshare.
                Look what happened to Ola.

            • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 02:08
              +2

              @tp0:

              Plus how do you suppose you're going to build those houses and infrastructure without skilled migrants?

              Old mate here cant see the forest through the trees.

              You're busy telling other people they are being racist, meanwhile your only see migrans as being good as Labour's?? Are you hearing yourself???

          • DrScavenger on 11/04/2024 - 18:53
            +1

            @buffalo bill: People want to live in detached houses. This is unrealistic at this time and age. We need proper apartments. Yet for some reason people hate it

        • Binchicken22 on 10/04/2024 - 20:09
          +4

          It's not "bipartisan" at all… Pretty sure libs have said publicly multiple times they don't support current immigration levels.

        • ajr5k on 10/04/2024 - 21:45
          +5

          Labor is currently in charge so…

      • pennypincher98 on 10/04/2024 - 20:25
        +4

        only way out of this "rental crisis" people keep banging on about is to unlock more land and build more houses.

        Oh yes the "one more lane" highway approach. This has never been tested and failed before…

        We need to start making actually decent apartments and townhouses - some 3 and 4 bedroom places still have as many living areas as a 1 bedroom place does. You can't just bung on an extra bathroom and say it's good for a family now.

        • Binchicken22 on 11/04/2024 - 05:47
          +1

          I have nothing against building more apartments/townhouses, in fact in my area it seems at least 50% of the new developments are townhouses. If the demand is there, developers will cater to it, it's a free market after all. The developers are going to do whatever makes them the most money.

          My grievance is more with council, if you are going to approve subdivisions down to like 320sqm lots so you make more money on rates, then it should be mandatory that each of those developments has a small community area with park/bbq type thing. Brisbane City council don't require that though, they just let developers pump out 320sqm lots so houses are gutter to gutter with no back yard, basically townhouse imo, but no facilities near by.

      • skysurfer on 10/04/2024 - 22:15
        +5

        "The only way out of this "rental crisis" people keep banging on about is to unlock more land and build more houses."

        Not the only way at all and its just a bandaid. Best way is to stop the source of the demand i.e. stop the unprecedented number of immigrants.

        • Binchicken22 on 11/04/2024 - 05:43
          +2

          Yeah definitely, I just meant without going with his so called "racist" option. But he also doesn't like the build more houses option either, so I think he just wants to whinge.

    • tunzafun001 on 10/04/2024 - 23:01
      +2

      It's a strange one. Carrying resources is probably tax deductible anyway, so they will get their tax bracket worth back anyway. But this is a state rebate vs an ATO rebate…

      I don't get it… Probably the monkey in charge throwing 3 darts..

      one landed on rego

      one landed on rebate

      one landed on trades

      Bunch of muppets!

  • tunzafun001 on 10/04/2024 - 19:57
    +3

    Tim Pallas will somehow stuff this up… I'm sure there is an equivalent of a UTAS student loophole someone on OzB will find.

  • serpserpserp on 10/04/2024 - 19:59
    +22

    How about we give nurses, NDIS, aged care and childcare workers free rego too?

    • pennypincher98 on 10/04/2024 - 20:05
      +11

      Especially if providing home care services, that's basically the same as travelling out to multiple sites.

    • Binchicken22 on 10/04/2024 - 20:14
      +6

      Just what we need, more NDIS spending 🤣 Money is free after all right…

    • elguapo on 10/04/2024 - 21:54
      +10

      What about allied healthcare students. They prop up the under funded Victorian healthcare system as it is. Working shifts, having to pay for hospital parking and getting paid zero for the privilege. If any group deserves free rego it is these people. Tradies are earning a wage. Allied healthcare students incur costs to even go and work for free and get zilch in return.

      • Boscom123 on 10/04/2024 - 22:04
        +1

        I hear you… but I've never seen an allied healthcare student be anything more than supernumerary.

        • buffalo bill on 11/04/2024 - 09:06
          +1

          How do you think people learn? Perhaps they should grab the scalpal in their first 5 minutes of placement

          • Boscom123 on 11/04/2024 - 13:05

            @buffalo bill: Not sure you actually grasped/understood my statement.

            Clearly they are learning and hence supernumerary - but when the same care can be delivered without the students there, it's hard to justify paying them. Same goes for medical and nursing students.

      • Wokstar on 11/04/2024 - 10:24

        Yep, parking a 10-15 (sometimes 20) minute walk away from a hospital to save money on parking cos you're not earning a wage (and running a car as a uni student is already expensive) while on placement and are too tired to rock up to your casual/part-time job after learning on the job for weeks on end. Allied healthcare student definitely deserve recognition too.

      • ripesashimi on 11/04/2024 - 13:10
        -1

        students incur costs to even go and work for free and get zilch in return.

        This is true for most professions. Hospital parking is still cheaper than airport and CBD parking.

        Whataboutism has no end. There will always be a group of people with greater need. I would agree if you raise that all students should receive the same incentive.

        Trying to compare trade apprenticies in general with a small subset of students within a highly specific profession (not even all healthcare students) is inherently flawed.

    • Koffee on 10/04/2024 - 23:23
      +2

      Cos its a CFMEU special

    • dealman on 11/04/2024 - 09:56
      +2

      Yes why not give all union members free everything..

      That way the Labor party can stay in power forever until we crumble into bankruptcy.

  • WoodYouLikeSomeCash on 10/04/2024 - 20:04
    -5

    In NSW rego is only like $100.

      • WoodYouLikeSomeCash on 10/04/2024 - 20:10
        -1

        Most apprentices will be employed by a business and therefore will qualify under private use as they are merely commuting to work.

        • pennypincher98 on 10/04/2024 - 20:14
          +1

          Vehicle tax
          Additional vehicle tax applies to business cars over 3,565kg.
          Tare weight (kg)
          Up to 975
          Private use fee
          $255
          Business use fee
          $411

          There's more to it than a registration fee. I highly doubt any apprentice has a car under 975kg either lol.

    • tightarse on 10/04/2024 - 20:10
      +1

      In NSW rego is only like $100.

      No. NSW has a $100 registration rebate for apprentices.

      • WoodYouLikeSomeCash on 10/04/2024 - 20:12
        -3

        Registration fee
        All vehicles
        Amount
        $75 annually

        • tightarse on 10/04/2024 - 20:16
          +2

          That's just the fee component within the renewal, not covering other items like TAC fee, vehicle tax, inspection fee, etc. Unless I'm mistaken, total rego cost in NSW is close to $1K for a regular car.

  • xmagic on 10/04/2024 - 20:41

    I just hope digital license can be released as soon as possible. Not sure how it can take so long.

      • xmagic on 10/04/2024 - 20:44
        +1

        Yup. Seems definitely within 2024.

        Next, myki for Apple Wallet Transit (which I don't have hope anymore…)

    • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 02:13
      -1

      I just hope digital license can be released as soon as possible. Not sure how it can take so long

      Hell no!! Push back on that shit as much as possible.

      If you want a social credit system then move to China.. because that's exactly where this shot is going.

      • TheFreaK on 11/04/2024 - 12:01
        +1

        Why do you think personal identification becoming digital suddenly makes it a social credit system?

  • prodrome on 10/04/2024 - 21:16
    +17

    Tradies the most overpaid (profanity) ungrateful (profanity). We don't pay taxes and waste our money on jet skis.

    Source: Am a tradie.

    • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 02:14
      -2

      Tradies the most overpaid (profanity) ungrateful (profanity). We don't pay taxes and waste
      Source: Am a tradie.

      Mate then you know all to well the apprentice wage is a (profanity) joke!!

      • prodrome on 11/04/2024 - 05:27
        +3

        True but it s better than that cripppling debt uni students get. Also, < 40% of uni students graduate, so the majority leave with nothing but debt.

      • ripesashimi on 11/04/2024 - 13:17
        +1

        Joke wages are still wages. Its better than getting paid thin air.

    • Binchicken22 on 11/04/2024 - 05:54

      Self employed tradies might have plenty of loop holes for getting around taxes, just the same as any small business, even though so many whinge about the minimal tax they do pay… I can assure you though tradies that are employees, absolutely pay a large amount of tax.

  • life is suffering on 10/04/2024 - 21:22
    +2

    Vic roads not taking money !? I guess the eclipse did have some effect

  • fuzor on 10/04/2024 - 21:23
    +3

    Can we really afford this?…

    • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 02:15
      +1

      Can we really afford this?…

      We couldn't afford the shit strain like Andrews as SP, but here we are.

      • fuzor on 11/04/2024 - 09:00
        -2

        That's completely different. He was spending it on infrastructure. You ever drive peak hour through section between Caulfield and Oakleigh and you'll seriously appreciate that he's the only premier in decades doing something to reduce the long traffic jams that used to be along rail corridors. That whole section looks so much better with no graffiti now with the skyrail and heaps of people jog or exercise underneath.

    • Jigram on 11/04/2024 - 12:06
      +2

      How good's Tim Pallas constantly complaining about money and then spending it on this?

  • Corgirun on 10/04/2024 - 21:57
    +9

    Yeah, more footage for Dash Cam Owners Australia…

  • Jigram on 10/04/2024 - 22:01
    +6

    Tradies - the single most coddled and subsidised Australian voter. It’s an utter disgrace.

    Weirdly, the Greens seem like the least wasteful political party at the moment. Labor/Liberal just flush cash down the toilet.

    • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 02:22
      -5

      Tradies - the single most coddled and subsidised Australian voter. It’s an utter disgrace.

      Mate go on a apprentice wage for 4 years and then get back to me. Now think about how the duck you're supposed to do it as a mature age apprentice with a family.

      Weirdly, the Greens seem like the least wasteful political party at the moment. Labor/Liberal just flush cash down the toilet.

      Nahhh thats the teal party. The reason they are all useless is because of the deep state that they are operating in. Didn't matter who gets voted in when Steve the unelected bureaucrat will be there regardless for decades.

      • prodrome on 11/04/2024 - 07:17
        +3

        Mate go on a apprentice wage for 4 years and then get back to me.

        A wage is better than what uni students get. $400k - $800k in lost earnings and expenses for a degree to make as much as a traffic controller.

      • Jigram on 11/04/2024 - 08:46

        Waaaaah waaaah waaaah have a cry. Why does the taxpayer need to subsidise your life decisions? You get paid to study and get massive tax incentives. Is that not enough? Should the rest of us give you more money?

        • vash5 on 11/04/2024 - 10:49

          Waaaaah waaaah waaaah have a cry. Why does the taxpayer need to subsidise your life decisions? You get paid to study and get massive tax incentives. Is that not enough? Should the rest of us give you more money?

          😂😂 What tax insensitive?? You make on average $50k as an apprentice.. $42k after tax. You cant live off that unless your living at home and young without any dependant or debut.

          But hey, we have Aus study and i dont see you complaining about that.

          You're up in arms about free rego for 4yr but in the same breath would complain about the cost of housing because supply is not able to keep up with demand. This effects everyone but hey, why support the industry that would fix it.

          As i posted below..

          Average apprenticeship salary: 50K.. $42k after tax

          https://au.indeed.com/career/apprentice/salaries/Melbourne-V…

          Average rent cost in Melbourne: $550 a week.. ~$29k yr

          https://mozo.com.au/home-loans/articles/what-is-the-average-…

          Average grocery cost for single person a yr: $193 a week ~$10k yr in vic.

          Mind you i think thats very generous figure and i think it's higher.

          https://www.finder.com.au/budgeting/average-grocery-bill

          Income: $42k
          Costs: $39k.

          So that leaves you with $3k a yr to pay for petrol, your car, mobile, tools, clothing, footwear, medical, dental, gas, water, electricity and any personal stuff on top of that.

          • Jigram on 11/04/2024 - 11:15

            @vash5: The tax incentives of your entire life bring deductible.

            Aus study is means tested. If it wasn’t I’d be complaining about it too.

            We can fix the labour shortage by importing trades labour. But apparently your industry’s workers think they should be immune to the pressures of the rest of the world.

    • dealman on 11/04/2024 - 09:59
      -1

      Oh yeah greens,, fkin they just burn the money on Palestine and green washing

      • Jigram on 11/04/2024 - 12:01

        I don't think you understand what greenwashing means. Greenwashing is companies making meaningless or fake environment promises/investments to try and hide their true environmental impact.

        Genuine spending on climate change mitigation isn't 'greenwashing', whether you agree with it or not.

  • mikeykay on 10/04/2024 - 22:14
    +10

    I can't understand why apprentices should get anything free….they get paid to learn as opposed to uni students who need to pay to learn.
    Anyway tax payers forking out once again greta legacy the labour govt has left us

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