Kogan Mobile Plan $9.99; $29; $79; $299 'Plans' Available
This was posted 6 months 8 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal
Edited by issh, scotty, Steptoe, a a a 02/01/2013 - 12:49
Best Prices on Unlimited Access using part of Telstra's Mobile Network!
FREE SIM STARTER PACK ($4.99 Postage and Handling per SIM)
- Includes 100 minutes + 100 SMS + 100MB Data (expiry not stated)
| Plan | Cost | Expiry | Calls/SMS | Data |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Data 30 | $9.99 | 30 Days | N/A | 2GB |
| Access 30 | $29 | 30 Days | Unlimited | 6GB/Month |
| Access 90 | $79 | 90 Days | Unlimited | 6GB/Month |
| Access 365 | $299 | 365 Days | Unlimited | 6GB/Month |
Data is rounded up to the nearest MB per Session
+3 votesIndeed, the only service Telstra resells is their plain old TW3G network, which typically gets 0.3 to 1.1 Mbps.
sunnyii on 12/12/2012 - 19:52 Comment score below threshold (-14).
+1 votefergmonkey on 13/12/2012 - 00:20 ¶I can only speak from my own personal experience, but vaya have been great for the two months I've been with them. Their CEO Ben is on the whirlpool forums as well, and is happy to be a direct line of contact if you have any dramas.
So, "part of Telstra's network" means the non-4G part, right?
Does it include the Next G part? (Ie, would the $10 / 2 GB deal work for folks in the Bush, who are in Next G areas?)
If so, are we -assured- it'll -stay- Testra 3G + Next G?
MORE IMPORTANT is: What's the -billing- block-size? Eg, 1 KB? or bigger?
These "deals" tend to end-up like Loan Agreements, in the old days…
you've got to pour over pages of legalese to extract the "hairy" details,
eg, that you'd be (in a Loan) be paying interest + maintenance fees, etc.
kingofamazon on 13/12/2012 - 11:02 ¶on news.com.au telstra has confirmed kogan dont have access to Next G either.
-4 votesYawn. I'd rather use AmaySIM on Optus than this. Telstra's 3G Network in Melbourne CBD, Richmond and St Kilda is un-usable (and South Melbourne). And i'd rather not give a cent to Kogan.
That said I'm on Telstra's LTE Network. If it was that then I'd throw money at him for this!
According to Kogan:
"Kogan Mobile has a typical download speed of 550kbps-3Mbps and upload speed of 300kbps-1Mbps (peak network download speed of 7.2Mbps)"
https://www.koganmobile.com.au/about-usI just took and 5 tests on RedBull (Vodafone) and got an average of 6.7 Mbps with my highest at 8.2 mbps.
johneliot1978 on 10/01/2013 - 15:19 ¶yeah, but typical from a telco doesn't mean jack. if you ask why you don't seem to match their typical range, they will just blow you off and say its an anomaly :D I imagine Kogan as a telco/reseller would be pretty hilarious!
+3 votesscytherbladez on 12/12/2012 - 19:49 ¶Here are the links to compare the "Kogan" and "NextG" networks :)
http://www.koganmobile.com.au/legals/terms#coverage-tw
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/coverage-networks/ou...
+1 voteper month approx $24.90
cheaper than red bull mobile, but lycamobile $24 per month unlimited is still cheaper (by 90c)edit: actually red bull mobile is still cheaper at $24.33 per month if you take on 3 extra months
though disadvantages of red bull and lyca is the less data they give :L
well if Kogan is only using telstra 2G network then lycamobile is the same, and it is cheaper.
But Kogan said to be using Telstra 3G but really it is not. Coverage claimed by Kogan is 97% but Telstra NextG is 99%. So perhaps they are using the same one where Vodafone share with Telstra on 2100mHz?
LolwutMikka on 12/12/2012 - 22:26 ¶Partnership with Vodafone and Telstra on 2100 ended back in August.
atitshah87 on 13/12/2012 - 10:23 ¶yes but lyca will give you a 2g network… where is redbull and kogan provides 3g
thedavemiester on 12/12/2012 - 18:08 ¶The data will be the clincher. 6gb is fantastic and a lot more than the other telco's currently offer, but it means stuff all if the speed isn't there to use it.
+8 votesgreenpossum on 12/12/2012 - 18:33 ¶Or worse, the part running with a paper cup and two bits of string. :)
+1 voteAccording to this article..
http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/technology/kogan-to-lau...Coverage is only 960,000 square km.
Where Telstra Next G is 2.1 million square km. So only about 45% of the coverage it would appear?
+1 voteIt would be interesting to see what they consider "covering" a member of the population i.e. they get coverage at work but not at home so they are "covered." I hate statistics they almost always lie. i.e. the government defines you as employed if you work 6hrs a week…. that's how Rudd raised employment lol but interpreting the data differently.
Very interested to know how reliable the data speeds are. Quoted at "It will have a peak network download speed of 7.2Mbps and upload speed of 300kbps-1Mbps." sounds kind of promising… I'm thinking this may cause a lot of people to give up on Vodafail if they haven't already. Interesting times.
- +1 vote
According to the kogan website: "Kogan Mobile is underpinned by over 6,600 3G 850MHz sites"
Also regarding speeds: "has a typical download speed of 550kbps-3Mbps and upload speed of 300kbps-1Mbps"
That equates roughly to typical download speeds of 69-384KB/s
hmmm.
- +1 vote
http://telstrawholesale.com.au/download/document/postpaidmob...
this also showed that it will use part of 850mhz, but the fact is that Telstra stopped using the 2100mHz 3G (which I think is what they resells to resellers) which previously was shared with Vodafone.
http://ausdroid.net/2011/08/02/telstra-will-cease-using-thei...
By "current offering you have linked to" I was referring to http://telstrawholesale.com.au/download/document/postpaidmob... which is the same wholesale 3G that was launched earlier this year and what appears to be offered by Kogan here and others like Southern Phone.
There was no previous wholesale 3G offering and there was no network shared with Vodafone it was with 3.
Those are theoretical peaks apparently. ZDNet says it won't typically exceed 1.1MBps download. Kinda dampens the deals somewhat.
+1 votesenorclean on 12/12/2012 - 18:26 ¶I'd wager it is like three used to be - where you more or less got access to Telstra in areas where other providers have coverage, but not in Telstra exclusive bits.
Jakiejake on 12/12/2012 - 18:29 Comment score below threshold (-6).
+24 votesillumination on 12/12/2012 - 18:49 ¶People still sign up to LC? Have you not checked out vaya?
+1 votelamerthanlam on 12/12/2012 - 19:19 ¶Given that it is sort of a prepaid thing, I'd assume you'll get cut off.
+2 votesMore information about "part of telstra" - telstra started wholesaling 3G at the start of this year:
http://www.zdnet.com/telstra-starts-offering-wholesale-3g-13...
+4 votesThis pretty much details Telstra's Wholesale network: http://telstrawholesale.com.au/download/document/postpaidmob...
+3 votesMore reading, Telstra claim that they have NOT resold anything to Kogan:
http://www.afr.com/p/technology/telstra_distances_itself_fro...
So who is telling the truth…
- +6 votes
Telstra claimed they do not have a direct relationship with kogan, which is true.
Telstra sold off the low end part of their network to wholesalers last september i think, and kogan has purchased off one of these wholesalers. So not direct relationship, but still telstra's network. Telstra just doesn't want to be seen to be in any way associated with Kogan.Nothing too dodgy.
+4 voteschiefbodge on 12/12/2012 - 19:38 ¶I personally think that a reseller should have a close relationship with the telco that's providing the service. Good luck getting faults resolved while having to deal with intermediaries
- +2 votes
Speed and network coverage aside, how good is their simplified plan! Unlimited call/txt/sms for a low price. No longer need to worry about caps, plans, flagfalls, cost per minute etc, its just one price for unlimited access. The industry needs more of this IMO.
- johneliot1978 on 10/01/2013 - 15:26 ¶
Couldn't agree more :) that's my plan for 2 mobiles and an iPad. Love the fact that your data and calls never expire! and all for only $1 a month.
+2 votesIf it included international it would be better.
What's good about this is it opens the door to competitive pressure on a cheap Telstra network infrastructure even if it is 3G. Which should make other resellers of Optus and Vodafone throw in some more extras. Plus if resellers start looking to move their wholesale purchase to Telstra 3G, maybe Optus (and Vodafone when they have it) will start reselling LTE to counter that…
+1 voteMaybe a silly question but can we move our existing number across? This is the only thing that's preventing me from buying now.
I have an old tattered iPhone 3GS, no contracts and don't give a f*** about 4G, just want a simply phone that I can call, text and occasionally check bus/train/movie start/directions/etc… thoughts?
-1 voteThe worst provider I have come across. I had an issue with the excess data charges and had a hard time getting someone to address the issue. I guess if you always stay under the allowance and never need assistance they will be fine. But God forbid if you ever need customer service you'll know what I am talking about. I thought Vodafone was bad until I had issues with live connected.
+2 votesLooks like a good deal for heavy mobile users. However I don't make unlimited calls nor use anywhere near 6GB of data. So Vaya at $11/month is a much better deal for me.
Would also be a good deal for those who are stuck in a rural area with no other Broadband option but 3g.
+1 voteThe Land of Smeg on 12/12/2012 - 21:34 ¶I wouldn't mind some real world feedback of how it actually compares to fully fledged NextG as far as call quality goes (excluding data) as it is clearly at least a sub-set of NextG it must have something behind it. Maybe it doesn't include all towers? (Maybe it doesn't include towers where there is no competing Optus/Voda coverage?).
If the voice coverage is up to scratch, it may be worth getting a Telstra data-only 4G WiFi device (eg: Prepaid 4G Wifi, Postpaid G Wifi, 4G Android/iPad with Wifi Hotspot) with it (data is less expensive on a data service than a voice service) and you put your smartphone onto the "Wifi" of the hotspot when you need fast Telstra 4G/Full NextG goodness (even if you don't have a 4G phone!)A Quick Estimation,
Kogan $299 of NextG-lite with 6GB data per month = $24.91 per month.+
Telstra $56 per month of full NextG/4G 8GB Data including the Wi-Fi device on 24 month contract
=
$80.91 per month which includes Unlimited calls/text on NextG (native calls/texts don't even work over 4G yet), 6GB of NextG-lite data + 8GB of Full NextG/4G data (14GB total).
Seems like a good deal to me. This would cost at least $100 on a Telstra plan and only have 3GB of Full NextG/4G Data (compared to 8GB Full NextG/4G)
The only thing that can go wrong with this plan is if NextG-lite actually has some areas that are not covered at all by Telstra.
And I wonder if Telstra-locked phones would work on their resellers, like the Voda/Optus-locked phones work on their resellers.
- The Land of Smeg on 12/12/2012 - 22:11 ¶
As an update to this. I just had a look over the Kogan maps vs Telstra NextG (not 4G) vs Three Mobile maps (who still roams to Telstra even though their home network is shut down).
it appears that NextG-lite covers exactly the same areas where Three-roaming is allowed. Where Telstra have areas where they don't allow Three-roaming, it is the same for NextG-lite.Even though Three's home network (3GIS) is shut down now, Telstra had allowed Three customers to roam onto the NextG network in certain areas but not in others (and charged a ridiculous 50c/MB for it), and it seems that this element of NextG roaming has been carried over to be open wholesale (Where obviously the defunct 3GIS service has not).
Three don't allow new signups so Telstra would have a shrinking customer base for this offering of non-Telstra NextG access. Still protecting the crown jewels of offering coverage where nobody else has, and only opening up towers that are competing with Optus (and to a lesser extent Vodafone if such a place exists where there is Vodafone coverage but no Optus coverage).
Works fine for me though. I live squarely in the city and never leave, so I would have full NextG-lite coverage. Those living regional/rural or on the edge of the city and like to venture out, or you venture all over the state/country, you are still stuck with Telstra.
If this is you, I suggest looking at Telstra Pre-Paid though, Telstra Pre-Paid if fully fledged NextG/4G and usually cheaper than post-paid if you don't need unlimited calls during the day (but they do have unlimited 6PM-6AM on $30+ Pre-Paid Cap recharge).
- The Land of Smeg on 12/12/2012 - 22:57 ¶
Well it depends on your needs, I was just using 8GB/month as an example. You could just as well get a pre-paid option such as 12GB/year. You would not need to have the Portable Device on or active all the time, only at times where you "feel the need, the need for speed" (what would be the point of even having Full NextG or 4G if you never felt the need for speed). If you don't need a lot of Full NextG/4G data, then I think it is safe to say that you are not really using it very much so that is why I picked a realistic example of 8GB/month for someone who heavily relies on the Full NextG/4G coverage and NextG-lite would not be sufficient due to data speeds.
For times when you don't have the need speed (If such a thing even exists! but maybe such as when your phone is in your pocket) NextG-lite will happily run with the Wifi device turned off, collecting all your background data for push notifications, or other non-data intensive operations and the like. The main thing is to have the excellent Telstra 850mhz voice coverage at this price, which is noticeably better (by some, depending on the exact areas they frequent) than Optus/Voda even in the city.
"Standard Mobile Calls, Standard National Calls, Calls to 1300 & 1800 Numbers, Voicemail Deposits & Retrievals."
What does it meant by "standard mobile" and " Standard National" are there "none- Standard" one ? That meant a smart phone can turn into a GPS navigation in the car, right ?
daddydirtsurfer on 12/12/2012 - 22:12 ¶I'm surprised that Kogan will continue to expand everything faster…..I wonder they will collapse one day or not.
I think they have realised that they can only grow that big selling LCD TVs — so they started selling grey import items.
Then they realised that they can only make that much profit selling electronics goods — so they branched out to resell mobile plans.
Who knows what they are going to do next but it's common (and necessary) for retailers to start new business to continue to grow. Catch of the Day for example.
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Question, if it's on the Telstra network can you get 4g speeds?