Microsoft buys Nokia devices and services

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/Sep13/09-02An…

Does anyone think this will end well for MS? Is there anything left of Nokia?

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  • Nokia will retain its brand (licensed to MS for ten years) and its patent portfolio.
    The patents are worth several billion, I believe, and the licensing fees they receive are substantial.

    • +1

      So they are now a huge patent troll. Just what we needed.

    • They make like 2 dollars a phone for 2G tech, 100million+ phones sold every 3months. Plus other patents, basically nokia's profit for doing nothing over next 20 years is crazy.

  • i thought of not buy but join venture but obviously nokia bosses are more interested in $

    • Well the Nokia boss is an MS guy and is getting a senior MS position. Shareholders probably just want off a sinking ship.

      • +3

        Senior? Wouldn't be surprised if Elop takes over as CEO once Ballmer leaves.

        • +1

          Me neither.

          I agree with comment from a user on Google+.

          Step 1) Send Microsoft sleeper agent, Stephen Elop, into Nokia
          Step 2) Drive Nokia into the ground by going all in on Windows Phone
          Step 3) Buy Nokia at discount

          If Elop does become CEO, it just makes it more suspicious.

        • Why drive Nokia into the ground? It's all been bought by M$ anyway. They just want to make the ex-Nokia employees part of their mobile devices division. The deal makes perfect sense.

          Sometimes conspiracy theorists come up with the most ridiculous ideas. Those employees in Nokia who have been making Windows phones are valuable and gives M$ a head start in trying to catch up once integrated. Whether they'll get poisoned by the ranking system and be able to make any significant headway against the iOS/Android duopoly remains to be seen. Still a bit of competition makes things interesting.

          Incidentally Google makes money off ads on mobiles, while Apple still makes money on the hardware. M$ is hoping to make money from mobile services. Their Windows, Office and Xbox revenues are declining as PC sales flatline while mobile sales rocket.

        • -1

          Incidentally Google makes money off ads on mobiles… M$ is hoping to make money from mobile services

          True but they both know how much more money can be made from mobile devices. I doubt Google just bought Motorola for its patents. I wouldn't be the least surprised if Google closes android when they are allowed.

        • No, the profit is in services, you can research this yourself. Apple is the exception here. If anybody is making money from devices, it's the Chinese. Over the lifetime of a device more profit is made from services than the devices.

  • Paid too much imho

    • +1

      paying anything is considered too much

      Look at black berry, once upon a time, the darling of all phone geeks, now they want to be a "niche" company…

      oh well, fortunes go around and i'm sure one day, some other brand will take over google AND apple

      • Pretty good imo. If anything, this is a much better buy than Google's acquisition of Motorola. Despise its failure in recent years, Nokia still manufacture some of the better handwares in the market.

  • Guess we’ll never get a Nokia built android after all. I wish them all the luck and whatnot, but I really wanted that to happen.

    • That was never going to happen, they left it too late to think about getting on board. Sometimes, having an existing platform is a millstone.

      • +1

        Microsoft are never going to endorse or have anything to do with an open source OS, look back at that One Laptop Per Child scheme, Microsoft were not going to budge on the price of Windows despite the fact the laptop was supposed to be <$100, so I'm pretty sure if Nokia did go Android it would have never been sold to Microsoft, and call me paranoid but it sounds fishy when the CEO ex MS executive sells the company back to MS, insider trading anyone? Nah

        • Agreed and Elop giving dumb reasons for not making even one android phone.

        • At that point, pre-Elop, it was just Nokia. But then it was already too late, they waited too long to give up on Symbian; they had ignored smartphones for too long. Of course Elop's strategy all along could have been to get the company sold to M$, which is pretty much the best he can do. Of course he would be biased towards M$, what do you expect. He might even get to replace Ballmer.

        • I think those are just business connections which is a quintessential part of our businesses/economies these days. Connections seem to often play part in any big M&A deal.

  • The truth is if Nokia wasn't there; Windows Phone would have had similar fate to Windows RT. So I think its a very good move.

    • Very good move…for Microsoft, not so much for Nokia.

  • Some of Nokia's best people left last year and started a new company called Jolla. Looks like their boutique mobile phone has already sold out its first production run! See http://jolla.com/

    • Another Meego.

      • +1

        Almost, it uses a Mozilla LINUX based OS called Sailfish that's Android compatible (whatever that means). But that's good. People, even people here in Australia who usually only liked Iphones, liked the N9 and Mego. It got really good reviews from the usually anti-Nokia tech reviewers. And then Eflop sabotaged it saying 'no matter how well the N9 sells we're still dropping Mego'.

        That kind of anti-free market talk convinces me that it's not just paranoia when people say he was a trojan horse and deliberatly killed off Nokia. He really should be investigated.

        Meanwhile consumers crave choice. It wouldn't surprise me if Jolla really takes off.

  • Yeah - Microsoft was heavily promoting Nokia in yesterdays TechEd
    One of the guest speaker was even making fun by quoting "Microsoft Lumia Phone" :)

  • Ballmer's last stroke of genius before he calls it quits!

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