Desktop Build around Gryphon-Z87 $600-700

Lescusemay on 25/09/2014 - 11:54

Hi everyone,
I need your input with regards to a desktop build for my business. Obviously trying to keep costs low. I just purchased the Asus Gryphon-Z87 LGA1150 m/b last night as it was on special ($99). Haven't built a computer in a few years so I don't know what's good these days. I know it was a bit impulsive and I should have done more research, but it was in the works to build a reasonably spec'd computer with the below requirements and the Asus seemed like a pretty good buy (for performance and longevity.

Requirements:
- Need to run 6 IP Cameras wirelessly (possibly via Blue Iris software). Each camera would probably be around 720p or slightly less.
- Need to run 4 separate 23" monitors about 5m away from the computer (so a combination of HDMI/DVI outputs from the GPU could work?)

I would need a case + PSU, CPU, GPU, RAM and maybe HDD.

Please let me know what you'd suggest if you were in my situation, keeping in mind the cost. I heard the Pentium G3258 CPU's are pretty good, but not sure if they're suitable for what I need.

Thanks in advance!

Computing

Comments

  • silent1 on 25/09/2014 - 12:55
    +1

    Interesting read here.
    https://www.sighthound.com/support/system-requirements

    A user reported that an off the shelf 2013 mac mini with a dual core Intel Core i5-3210M 2.5GHz CPU and 4gb of memory can comfortably handle 10 1024x768 streams.

    Mobile i5 is dual core w/ HT so equivalent to an i3.

    CPU: i3 4160 $130
    Mobo: Asus Z87 Gryphon $0
    RAM: Kingston 1x4GB 1600MHz $44
    GPU: Gigabyte GTX 750 2GB Low Profile $145 (1x DVI-I, 2x HDMI, 1x DP)
    or Gigabyte GTX 750 2GB 148 (2x DVI, 2x HDMI)
    HDD: Toshiba 3TB $119
    Case: Zalman Z3 Plus $49
    PSU: Seasonic 350W OEM Gold $65

    Total: $552~555 (Prices from Umart)

    If you want something small change case to a Silverstone ML03 $68 with low profile card.

    http://www.stardot.com/bandwidth-and-storage-calculator
    6x H.264 720p camera only needs 19.2Mbps(2.4MB/s) from the HDD.

    • scrimshaw on 26/09/2014 - 01:47

      Sighthound looks like it relies for CPU for decoding and video analysis, doesn't look like a beefy video card is useful with this particular program.

  • escusemay on 25/09/2014 - 23:43

    Thanks silent1 for the recommendation. I'll look into them over the next few days. Is there any chance the onboard graphics on the CPU can handle the 6 cameras and output to 4 monitors?

    • scrimshaw on 26/09/2014 - 01:30

      For 4 monitors you need a graphics card. Can't do more than 3 monitors without one. Even the best Z87 motherboard will only have 2 digital (HDMI, DVI) outputs and 1 analogue output (VGA).

  • ethereal88 on 26/09/2014 - 06:45

    These are HD streams not SD. I wouldn't drop below a 4670 and 8GB RAM. You'll need an aftermarket GPU as that cheapo board only supports 2 monitors. I'd ignore the HDD and slap in a 500GB SSD to make it dead silent and fast.

  • escusemay on 30/09/2014 - 23:21

    Thanks for the replies.

    I have just reviewed our requirements and it has changed slightly.

    • We will be running 2 computers, and each one will have 2 monitors each (total 4 monitors). I think the Gryphon-Z87 has 2 video outputs (1 x HDMI and 1 x DVI so we might be able to get away without a dedicated GPU)
    • Each computer will have access to all 6 camera feeds (each camera will be up to 720p)

    After several hours of researching, it seems running camera feeds requires more CPU load than GPU, hence it's pretty much between the i3-4150 (~$127) vs i5-4460 (~$201). The ~$74 difference is quite significant considering there's 2 computers we need and the main differences are the extra physical core (which i3 makes up slightly with HT) and larger cache. Both computers will only be dedicated to running Blue Iris or equivalent software, and nothing else so no need for too much multitasking.

    In real-world performance running the cameras, would this make a big difference? The $150 saved would probably go towards getting 2 x 120GB SSD's

    • scrimshaw on 01/10/2014 - 03:24

      Your question is best directed to the boffins who coded the software, us Ozbargainers are too cheap to afford a crystal ball to predict your answers :)

      If you intend to use Blue Iris find out what the spec requirements are for their software and see what they recommend
      http://blueirissoftware.com/contact/

      or visit forums at http://www.ipcamtalk.com/ for community suggestions.

      Please know: even though hyperthreading allows a core of a CPU to run more efficiently, it's still no substitute for a an actual core. It's explained very simply if you google Explain like I'm 5: Hyperthreading

      Here's where it gets even more tricky, some programs utilize HT well, but some don't, that's why your mileage may vary between different programs.

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