Hi all,
Looking for a mechanic to remove the limiter in my 50cc scooter to allow it to go over 50km/h. Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations, or knows anyone (it's always good to help a fellow ozbargainer out)
Adelaide Mechanic Remove Scooter 50km/H Limiter
pernunz on 03/06/2015 - 11:23
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Thanks! I'll have a go at doing it myself.
In your previous thread:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/194590
you stated:
"The low speeds do not worry me"Why not sell it and buy something that does have the speed you now need?
Because the vehicle is capable of doing the speed I want (60km/hr) with a minor modification, which the above poster has duly informed me I can perform myself. Why as an ozbargainer would I buy something which would cost me more which provides no additional benefits, and increased ongoing costs?
There were three quite clear warnings contained in your previous thread that included:
"we were warned on the learners course not to get a 50cc, not enough power to stay with traffic"
"50cc is enough only to go shopping within your suburb, you will struggle on it in any 50+kph zone, not safe at all"
"50cc scooter riders are a danger to themselves on the road. The scooter can't maintain 60km/h on a mild gradient and certainly can't achieve 80km/h. Cars will be constantly overtaking you, with some drivers not bothering to completely move into another lane while doing so. The first thing you should be doing when looking at a 50cc is finding a scooter with more cc"
Good Luck with it.
I can spend my entire commute on virtually flat roads with a speed limit of no more than 50km/h, which the vehicle is completely capable of. It is perfectly suitable for my needs, and have no roads within an approximate 10km radius of my home with speed limits exceeding 60km/h.
You didn't want to get your motorcycle licence, so you're restricted to a 50cc scooter. Now you want to -illegally- de-restrict your 50cc scooter to go faster?
Suck it up, get a real licence, and get a more appropriate bike.
It is my understanding that it is not illegal to derestrict a 50cc scooter in South Australia, only that it is illegal to drive a derestricted 50cc scooter without a motorcycle license.
The holder of any class of South Australian driver's licence can ride a moped as long as the moped is registered, insured and compliant with Australian design rules.
"Moped" (defined as "A moped is defined as a two- or three-wheeled motor vehicle (other than a power-assisted bicycle) that: "is capable of a speed NOT exceeding 50 kilometres per hour." http://mylicence.sa.gov.au/my-motorcycle-licence/moped-scoot…
Once you breach ADR's all bets are off.
One it is derestricted, it will no longer be classed as a moped, but instead a motor bike, which will require the driver to hold a motor cycle license.
A moped is a motorbike which has an engine capacity of no more than 50cc, and is restricted to 50km/h
Once a vehicle fitting that category is derestricted, it is no longer defined as a moped, and is classified as a motor bike, and would comply with the ADR for motor bikes (as it is required to in SA legislation). The only change would be that it cannot be driving by a person who does not hold a motor cycle license.
The act of derestriction is not illegal, only if someone without a motorcycle license were to drive it on public land.
Edit:
moped means a motor bike or trike with an engine cylinder capacity of not over 50 millilitres
and a maximum speed of not over 50 kilometres an hour;
motor bike means a motor vehicle with 2 wheels, and includes a 2 wheeled motor vehicle with
a sidecar attached to it that is supported by a third wheel;In South Australia, all mopeds are motor bikes, however not all motor bikes are mopeds.
@pernunz: Ok, so you derestrict it and then it becomes a motorbike. Motorbikes have different ADR's .. which it won't meet. So then it's not legal to have it registered, or to ride it on a public road.
= Yes it isn't illegal to modify, but it is illegal to use publicly afterwards.Do what you want, but don't kid yourself about the consequences.
Trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear springs to mind.
Scooters are so damned cheap anyway, why not just buy a real one?
Probably be not far off what a mechanic would charge in labour to make yours into a 55kph machine.
Ask yourself why is it restricted to 50km/h in the first place? Are the brakes/tyres etc. rated to handle higher speeds? You could probably get it to freeway speeds if you tried hard enough, but you would be a danger to every road user around you!
According to this it's pretty easy to remove the restriction yourself depending on how it's implemented… ("remove speed limiter 50cc" in Google)
http://www.tuningmatters.com/how-tos/beginners-guides/derest…
Note that since this is technically illegal though I'm not sure whether people would really advertise in a public forum. Best hope is that you may just have to 'get lucky' when asking around or someone sends sends you a private message.
http://scootercommunity.com.au/forums/p/5674/37886.aspx