E. G. England has BBC. There's Al jazeera. They are balanced in my opinion,most of the time, and are reputable, not tabloid bs etc.
What's a source for Australian news, that are alike to them?
Where do you get your news?
What's a good Australian news source?
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anything that doesnt require a subscription after a certain amount of articles have been read…
Browse in private mode (no cookies) and you can read unlimited articles
Does this work on iOS Safari private mode?
ABC for general news. ABC app for iOS is pretty good, and will give you a notification when there is a major breaking news event.
Crikey for political news.
Economist for world news. Podcast is free if you don't want to subscribe.
I have been very impressed with the Economist podcast. Very excellently produced. Almost makes me want to subscribe to the mag. I find it amazing that the journalists and researches seem so interested and knowledgeable about their pieces.
Hot bargain saving tip if you do decide to subscribe. Change your country of residence from Australia to save $$$. You don't even need a VPN or anything, it's just a drop down box. When I renewed my subscription about 18 months ago I set my country of residence to the USA, and the price was about 2/3rd of the AUS price (probs a bit worse now, but maybe pretending to be Russian or Brazilian will snag a good deal?)
I like the ABC for the unbiased, balanced and bold coverage of real news rather than the sensational/fictitious trash (labelled as news) you get in many newspapers such as HS!
and of course by 'Bold' you mean biased? I used to read a lot of the ABC but now avoid as I am sick of reading stuff with an obvious social conscience/agenda be that pro or anti government. Editorial pieces I can accept as i normally automatically avoid them regardless of the source but reading opinion dressed up as fact really annoys me!
i am sure HS is the most biased paper in all of oz with Andrew Bolt being the king of unbiased news stories! The objective of a newspaper is to provide a platform for all news (whether some people like real news or not) which is just what ABC does by being brave and yes bold. just because my views are different from others doesn't mean I should throttle other voices. Freedom of speech means everyone's views are heard!
I think the ABC is probably the best. Despite the incoherent ramblings of the far-right it's actually pretty unbiased.
The Guardian is OK, but it is left-leaning. Some of the opinion stuff on there makes my effing head hurt sometimes but the actual news coverage is pretty good. The comment sections are usually well moderated, if you are interested in that.
I strongly suggest you don't just read stuff that reinforces your own opinions. Try to expose yourself to other ideas.
Does such a thing exist? ;-)
I know channel 7 is the least reliable source. I've caught them out lying, many times.ABC and SBS are fine. Only people who listen to 2GB think they're biased. Yes, the quality sometimes slips, and they err on the side of caution (and political correctness) more often than not, but they still have journalistic integrity.
SMH is totally acceptable, though I'll avoid the online version which is a clickbaity news aggregator.
I find the ABC a tad to the left but most of the time they get it right.
Who's to say where the centre is these days? If you believe the current government, science is a left-wing conspiracy…
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned The Onion…
Wasn't that rebranded to Newscorp?
Dunno how I missed it, but yeah.
SBS anyone?
When I has ATV,I thought they were as close to being a respectable news network, along with abc.
Sky News……nah kidding , ABC all the way
Don't be overwhelmed by the number of news sources you think you know. They are six companies that control what you know and hear.
Oh really what are the 6ix companies?
I am talking globally. A quick google search would answer this question; GE, NewsCorp, Disney, Time Warner, Viacom and CBS.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-media/5437371Somehow, I don't think those news sources would affect, say the Chinese CCTV news channels, or MediaCorp (Singapore) or the BBC, or Al Jazeera, as much as they influence the American news sources.
That article seems to refer to the news in specifically in the USA. And if Australia had six major indigenous sources of news, well, that wouldn't be so bad, surely?
This has been enlightening to see what Ozbargainers perceive as 'unbiased'. The ABC has consistent green/labor bias in addition to being a drain on the public purse (although they do regularly have a column from someone from the IPA, so they make some effort). I don't really care about the green/labor bias of the Guardian/Fairfax or the liberal bias from News Corp as they're privately run and entitled to lean however they want.
Also, I thought Al Jazeera was unbiased until the Israeli incursion into Gaza last year, where they didn't even try to hide their contempt for the Israelis over Hamas. Other than middle east politics it's generally OK though.
As for what I read: The West Australian, WA Today, ABC for news, and Andrew Bolt's Blog and The Australian for opinion stuff.
Andrew Bolt's blog would be the most bias piece of media/propoganda in Australia at the moment. You do realise he models himself on Bill O'Reilly the Fox News "commentator" who is so far right it really isn't funny. Reading some of his followers comments are equally entertaining - especially the ones which love immigrants or boatpeople (ie. none).
Perhaps we're diametrically opposed as to which way we lean - Personally I read/watch: BBC & Al Jazeerah. As to your note on Al Jazeera, they've modeled themselves on BBC at inception. Think they've got a pretty fair piece considering most parts (moderate as well as extremists - both western & eastern) don't like them.
Saying all of that MX was a good read for hardhitting news! ;)
I agree. The US has reGularly ID Al Jazeera as a terrorist tv station. And the ABC is just as bad but uses taxpayer dollars. The ABC should be shut down.
Andrew Bolt is one of the few honest newsmen.The Egyptian Govt thinks much the same about Al Jazeerah as the US Govt.
I wouldn't trust too much whom the US Govt thinks is a "terrorist tv station". Whilst factually incorrect… it strikes of the methodology that the US has adopted of speading "misinformation" and using media outlets to do it's dirty work. A case of making something fact by repeating it often enough, no matter how much truth there is behind it.
I'd assumed that Wikileaks would have been enough to highlight some of this duplicity that govts employ… which certain media outlets continually propagate.
Whilst I agree that the ABC should employ more conservative hosts and participants to their shows, not merely a token conservative for the liberals to slay… I don't think it's as bias as the ultra-right believe.
At least out of this I've come up with a credible alternative news source:
Wikileaks! :)
In other words, Bolt stokes your prejudices nicely, and you need to project your insecurities onto News pieces that trouble your simple view of the world.
I think The Guardian has a great iPad app and they have an Australian presence too.
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-guardian/id409128287?mt=…I think everyone has missed the greatest Aussie News page, I present the Betoota Advocate: http://www.betootaadvocate.com/
I forgot to mention I read the NT News when I feel like a laugh. They know they're taking the piss though, since they had the following story on their front page a few years back:
I was looking to see if anyone mentioned this fine news source.
The trouble is they are writing as the major newspaper for a capital city and the 'state' but have nothing to work with and a bunch of bogans to write for. Anything written with words more then 2 syllables would go over 90% of the readers heads.
Every day they just creep over that quota of pages that defines them as a newspaper rather then a newsletter, I use to wonder why they had the largest race guide I have ever seen in a paper but it's there to bulk out the rest.
SBS
SBS and ABC for unbiased news.. Unless your a bogan that can get easily agitated and can't make your own opinion and needs the news to do it for you, then I suggest channel 10 or 7
SBS and ABC for unbiased news.. Unless your a bogan
Classic!
Al Jazeera?! They're a pro terrorist news service.
Unfortunately there aren't really any good news services in Australia. News.com.au and the daily mail aus edition are probably the least bad of a rotten politically correct bunch.
F-off. Al Jazeera are excellent. One of the only reputable international news channels in the world. They report the facts and don't kowtow to America and the Terrorist state of Israel.
Israel love to murder children. The average age in Gaza is 17. Imagine your 17 year old friend, family member or child being bombed by Israeli warplanes.Israel love to murder children.
Wow…
What's so wow about that? Did you check the causalities of their last war with the people of Gaza? Did you see the photos? Did you listen to the foreign doctors account their experience in the hospitals? Listen to Professor Mads Fredrik Gilbert and Norman Finklestein. Those two are free from political influence, speak the truth and have a great deal amount of intellect and wisdom.
Oh, I'm the bigot. Not the extreme right wing Nazis who support Israel. Climb back on your Liberal (more like conservative) Party flag pole and keep supporting the parties who fight and support ISIL simultaneously. I wonder if I took an ISIL insurgent's weapon and looked at the country it was manufactured in. What would the country of manufacture be?
UK, Israel, America or Russia? I think we can narrow it down to the countries who supply arms and air drop them into Iraq. Pull your head out of the bucket and smell the world for what it is.Newscorp is callin'
Down with Murdoch! Another vulture who has vested interests in large scale development and resource based projects in Syrian territory - mainly in Genolan Heights.
Hate and reason are like atoms - they can't occupy the same space at the same time…
Ay Abbott
Heraldsun.com.au and news.com.au
Omg front page of… ozbargain
Guardian & thenewdaily.com.au
Still read SMH out of habit but agree with mrskeggs that its standards are slipping and it's becoming another news.com.auStaff at work keep me informed with whatever is on the 24h news cycle. You can't escape it.
Me too, when I've run out of toilet paper
Remind me to never borrow your tablet :)
WOW…my asshole is a more credible news source than this !!
I try and avoid the news.
There is almost nothing at all on the news that I am worse off for not knowing and it is usually negative and when it's regarding a subject I have some knowledge of I notice it's often wrong which leads me to suspect the rest of the items are similarly wrong.
And as a poster a few posts up has pointed out uf it is something important people are going to tell you.
It was surprisingly difficult to wean myself off internet news, it took about three weeks similar to a drug habit. I have more time and I feel better.
Bookmark These!
Real Journalists telling it like it is without sugar coating it.
Kangaroo Court of Australia is focused on the corrupt conduct of Australian Judges and Magistrates and the Federal Politicians and Police who cover it up by failing to take action.
http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/Fairdinkum Radio
http://fairdinkumradio.com/Truth News Australia
http://www.truthnews.com.au/Juice Media - Australian Rap News
http://thejuicemedia.com/The Intercept
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/Cryptome - RAW Leaked Docs - A source for journalists
https://cryptome.org/Global Research
http://globalresearch.ca/We Are Change
http://wearechange.org/Zero Hedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/Hang the Bankers
http://www.hangthebankers.com/Collective Evolution
http://www.collective-evolution.com/Activist Post
http://www.activistpost.com/Or get both sides of the propaganda:
PressTV
http://presstv.ir/Juice Media - Australian Rap News
http://thejuicemedia.com/nice one :) … although RT has gone down alot
Yeah, it's gold.
They funniest part is that they ARE actually trying to expose people to TRUTH and get them thinking.Up until recently when they revealed their bias, they usually show both sides to an argument or issue in their videos but not so with recent episodes.
@chipstss:
Which one in particular?The Truth can be extreme and bias but either way it's their way to thought provoke through a bit of fun and entertainment.
Quality post, Thank you sir.
So you watch the news, hear all the bad stuff, now what? What are you going to do with that info? Absolutely NOTHING. So why bother watching it? Think about it
You're focusing on the bad things.
I used to be like that.. "Why does it matter what happens in Iraq? Who REALLY gives a f about tennis… besides the snobby cheeky subpopulation? Corruption in China? Big deal…"
But there's the stuff that affects you. E.g. Sydney property news, Australian politics, corruption in Australia, bargains, local crime, changes to legislation etc. Doesn't help you if you put your head on the sand.
Sydney property prices? I can see it when I look at domain which I check. Politics, really? Corruption, really? Changes to legislation, really? When was the last time you actually took action based on the news your heard?
I think people watch the news just out of habit, or they need some drama in their lives.Domain is a news sauce…
You don't have to take action if you don't want to.
Bottom line, it's about being informed.
@inose:
My point is people don't need news to get along just fine, if not better. I get informed when i need to make a decision.
Hahaha… if you use one of those "Ashley Madison" service, you should be aware of what's next going to happen when its news hit home
http://www.theguardian.com/au
Tells it as it is.thejuicemedia.com/
Rap News. Says what conventional TV won't. Rap style.http://thehonestintelligence.blogspot.com.au/
Hard to believe. Sad. Not for Kids. Can be disturbing.https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/
Honest. Unbiased. Wiki style. Also for Kids.http://www.reuters.com/
International. Not BBC. Journalistic.https://wikileaks.org/index.en.html
Conspiracies. And some truth.who'd have thought a topic like this would get people bickering?
I find it amusing that there are people commenting here saying news is a waste of time but they are on Ozbargain! Ozbargain is a form of "news", telling you what deals there are.
(Online communities) > ABC / SBS > The Guardian (and some foreign sources) > SMH/The Age (Fairfax) > The Daily Telegraph/Herald Sun (Murdoch)
RussiaToday is an excellent news source, shows you what's going on from a different, more realistic perspective.
I don't think it's an excellent sauce…
https://m.reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/2tile3/i…
I stopped reading newspaper and watching news on TV and my overall outlook has been a lot more positive since. I feel that there was too much negativity reported on the news. Occasionally though I do read the news and these are the sources I read them from:
ABC News (online, mainly the science section)
The Guardian
Daily Tele/News Ltd. (Strictly only for the Rugby League news and gossip which I enjoy. But the hypocrite in me cringes when I accidentally ponder any other section in this so called newspaper)Is that true or did you read it in the Telegraph?
One of the most intriguing aspects of news is how deeply it affects our attitudes and psychological responses to other aspects of life. A lot of us will remember the infamous Facebook experiment (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinker…) and have probably heard countless times how watching negative news makes you a stressed, anxious and "less pleasant" person to be around (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/why-we-worry/201206/the…).The Guardian even had a comment on it :) (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rol…).
As some have mentioned above, even a forum like OzBargain is a form of news and can negatively affect your emotions. How many times have you left reading a Whirlpool thread with a warm and fuzzy feeling despite perhaps feeling more informed? Or even the Guardian for that matter? Go there right now and the only story that doesn't cause anxiety could be Usain Bolt being run over by a cameraman on a Segway.
People often prefer to read what confirms their world view and conspiratorial leanings anyway. It's laughable to think that foreign news sources (let alone government-sanctioned) are any more reliable or broad-minded than our own. If you've never backpacked through developing countries I highly suggest you do and you'll be surprised at the specific things people know about Australia. I was asked by a boy in a small village in India "why do Australians hate Indians?" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Indians_in_Au…) - in which I didn't know what he was alluding to since I was living in Europe at the time. The average person in Iran, China or Russia would has been exposed to more news coverage of the US Ferguson Riots than any of us here in Australia or Europe ("so who's abusing human-rights now?"). "Tit-for-tat" reporting of international news is extremely common.
Ozbargain negatively affect my emotions only when my wallet gets lighter…
The Guardian is the highest quality IMO, but also has a low volume of content (being free, there has to be some drawback). The ABC is by far the best TV source of news, SBS is also good but a bit boutique. Some people bag the ABC for being too lefty, but that's really just a reflection of how right wing so much of the media is. They're the only TV station with editorial standards that are enforced. Commercial stations (and the major newspapers, for that matter) are very much caught in the 24 hour news churn cycle, where clickbait is more important than analysis.
Between the two, the ABC and the Guardian cover the country very well.
Some people bag the ABC for being too lefty, but that's really just a reflection of how right wing so much of the media is.
So the ABC isn't skewed to the left, it just seems that way because of 'so much of the media' (News?) is to the right? Or is the ABC actually to the left because of the (existence of) right-wing media?
What's classed as left tends to be that which isn't unflinchingly pro-business, that which is socially progressive, and that which is based on intellectual rigour, statistics and facts (as opposed to 'common sense' from the right). There's no doubt ABC viewers are more likely to vote left, but that's more because people of the left are more likely (though far from assured) to seek informed opinion and rigourous analysis, rather than superficial gotcha news, poorly educated pundits like Bolt, or philosophically empty pontifications about the sacredness of neoliberal of economics.
So the ABC isn't skewed to the left, it just seems that way because of 'so much of the media' (News?) is to the right? Or is the ABC actually to the left because of the (existence of) right-wing media?
@McFly: The ABC is an example of an organisation without commercial pressures, nor political pressures, serving a generally erudite audience. The idea that they only resort to facts and thorough analysis is simply to differentiate themselves is a bit of a long bow.
Other than the ABC's financial and regional/farming news, I don't think the ABC presents 'statistics and facts' as much as, say, MediaCorp (Singapore) or even CCTV (Communist China television).
In particular, when presenting a story, the ABC tends towards stating that a deserving issue needs more funding, without attempt at comparative cost analysis. Not helped by the use of professors/experts, who, as a matter of natural tendency, will ask for more funding for their particular area of interest.
@DavidFong: 7:30, Four Corners, Media Watch, the Drum: They all dissect issues, present both sides, and generally report on the issues. Commercial TV and News Ltd - all just sensationalist drama, puff pieces, barely disguised advertorials, and superficial entertainment masquerading as news.
You might have issues with the ABC. It's hard to see how you could then turn around and support the alternatives.
I agree that Four Corners has many good investigative stories that help raise awareness of issues of interest.
Personally I find that Four Corners is great for raising interest in an issue, but not always that great in making an informed decision.
And programs like 7:30 and Media Watch (I don't watch the Drum) do not present multiple alternative views from disinterested - but professional and analytical - parties in a way that even media organisations such as Mediacorp and CCTV are capable of. And those two media organisations come from societies (Singapore and China) which we would consider to have less press freedom and more homogenisation of views compared to Australia, which to me kind of shows just how much self-repressed journalism is going on in the ABC.
But that might be hard to understand if you don't have enough experience outside Euro-centric culture.
The Australian for me. ABC and The Age = way too left wing
The Australian = way too right wing
Daily Telegraph
Error404 quality aussie news not found :')
I had no idea so many ozbargainers really feel the ABC to be biased and overfunded. It's been found to be very efficient and even underfunded, as well as displaying a slight right wing bias (http://www.theguardian.com/media/datablog/2014/feb/06/austra…)
The ABC has felt like the only trustworthy source of news to me for years. I used to read the west australian until I realised it's absolute tripe.
A large portion of the country think the ABC is biased, because they read News Ltd. It's an indictment on this country/humanity in general that people are so easily influenced, and will believe whatever narrative is fed to them, regardless of the reality.
The last few years things have gotten very out of hand, in no small part because News Ltd resents the ABC implementing a 24 hour news channel (they think it's their right to put such a channel on Pay TV, a la CNN and Sky News on Foxtel).
Avoid Ch 7, 9 and 10 if your looking for real news. They're usually biased and serving a political view for the interest of the owners.
e.g
[Scenario] Riot happen
Ch7, 9 or 10 go an interview the worst possible person to paint a picture of the riot organizer (because that sells)
If they interview someone who says "we never came here to start trouble" then it's boring news and people switch channel.ABC have been "ok" or lesser evil.
BBC and CCN is like watching brainwash crap
Not a news source, but I recommend borrowing a copy of How Australia Decides by Sally Young.
It taught me so much about Australian media simply by presenting the facts. Not only that but it's very well written and interesting to read. Couldn't put it down.
http://www.theshovel.com.au/