Getting Ready for NBN - Where to put the box, install ethernet cables

wau2 on 01/09/2015 - 13:38

Hi

So I have been reading up on NBN for the last week, and the massive amounta of data around has made me more confused. Basically my details are as follows:
- NBN at my house will be fixed line
- I live in a two story townhouse
- I have two phone points in the house
- I have one data point but I cant find where it connects to (looked at plans and searched the house)

Q1: What is the limit to where I can tell the NBN installers to put the connection box (the one with wires, battery pack). My first choice would be in one of the clothes wadrobe (similar to where the security box is), but i guess garage is a 2nd choice. Does anyone have any suggestions based on the map below?

Q2: As a result of the above, do I have get an electrician/ cabler to do any pre installs? If i want it in the garage, there is currently no datapoints there. I presume i have to get one installed to somehow connect to router upstairs?

I have attached a rough sketch of my house. Thanks heaps in advance

If i do need data points, i'm going to get some quotes from Jims antennas. Hopefully they know what to do

http://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/24376/33159/capture.jpg

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Comments

  • dassaur on 01/09/2015 - 14:34
    +2

    My parents recently had it installed so I've been through all of this. You can put the box wherever you want. Ideally they'd be close to back to back, otherwise you'd be running conduit (which can be messy) along the outside of the house.

    As far as phone line goes, you can just put a splitter on the phone line coming out of the NBN box or modem(it depends which company you go with - if the phone is accessed through the box or the modem) and run a cable from the NBN box/modem to the phone, and the other to the wall socket, or any combination of this.

    If you put the box in the garage and you want to run a cabled connection throughout the house, then obviously you will need a cabler to run some ethernet cable from the garage to the upstairs, where your router is.

    In short, I would put the inside box near the outside one to avoid messy conduit, in a place that is not too difficult to install a new ethernet cable, assuming you did not want to move the router from upstairs.

    As a PS you will need a powerpoint for the inside box.

  • Axelstrife on 01/09/2015 - 14:34
    +2

    http://i.imgur.com/aBOWLIe.jpg
    my nbn.

    NBN doesn't use the old phone line ports as it you seem to think.

    • ESEMCE on 01/09/2015 - 14:38

      Depends which NBN he/she's getting.

      • Axelstrife on 01/09/2015 - 14:46

        Why did they have to change things for the worst? i hate this government.

  • ESEMCE on 01/09/2015 - 14:38
    +2

    Depends which version of fixed line NBN you're getting.

    If you're getting FTTN, then you wont need to install any new fixed hardware. The internet will come to you through your existing phone line/socket and you'll just need to plug in a new VDSL modem.

    If you're getting FTTP or HFC you don't want to put electronic stuff into a wardrobe or shed where it will "cook" the equipment over summer.

    Are you sure the single "Data Point" isn't just a third phone point? (the small RJ11 phone jack does actually fit into the larger RJ45 Ethernet port)
    Probably worth plugging in a phone to see if it has a dial tone.
    Might also be a Foxtel related port if the house has ever had Foxtel?

    Are you planning to buy one of the faster plans? (ie 50mbps or 100mbps) If not, you may find that having data points installed is not worth it and just rely on WiFi, which is what I assume you're doing currently.

    • Domingo on 01/09/2015 - 19:49
      +1

      @scubacoles To add to that, AFAIK if you've had Foxtel, you'll get HFC as the infrastructure already exists.

      @OP Is the PCD (nbn Outside Box) already there? or is that where you want them to put it?

      Assuming you're getting FTTP, typically they'll install the PCD at the closest point to where the fibre hits your house when run from the street, unless you instruct them otherwise. Then typically they'll install it on the inside of your house as close as possible to the PCD and within reach of a power point, unless you instruct them otherwise.

      Your ISP will be best placed to help you with what you can and can't ask nbn to do.

      • ESEMCE on 01/09/2015 - 20:37
        +1

        Likely, but not definitely. Some areas are still getting FTTP no matter what pre-existing infrastructure is available.

      • wau2 on 01/09/2015 - 22:13

        The PCD outside box has already been installed. Came home one day and the whole Street was done. Not sure where they will install the inside box. I'm thinking he only has two choices really. The garage or the living room which have power points. I'm hopeful he won't just install it on the other side of the wall and make me run a power cable from one side of the living room to the other. If I wanted it in the garage I presume he will run it through the wall cavities?

        How can I tell if i am getting fttn or fttn?

        Thanks heaps all

        • ESEMCE on 02/09/2015 - 08:32
          +1

          It'll definitely be FTTP then.
          You're incredibly lucky!

          Going back to my previous point. Are you likely to buy a high speed plan? (look up the prices)
          If not, then having the internal outlet installed in a similar location to the existing location of your current modem. Then you can rely on WiFi as you do now, knowing that the signal will be identical to what you have now throughout your house.

        • wau2 on 02/09/2015 - 13:17

          @scubacoles:

          Thanks. Having a look, im thinking i'll get something around the 25/5mbps, potentially 50/20mbps. My existing modem is upstairs, but looks like unless i do some pre-cabling, i might need to move the router downstairs.

        • ESEMCE on 02/09/2015 - 13:29
          +1

          @wau2:

          Maybe unplug the modem and plug it in to power where you imagine the "default" NBN installation might be.
          Then test WiFi coverage (You wont have internet access, but your WiFi will still connect)
          If you're getting good quality coverage everywhere you need it and you choose to go for the 25/5 plan, then WiFi could well be sufficient for your needs, so no cabling required.

          It's worth doing this test, cause WiFi coverage will likely be better in its current elevated location than it will be at ground level.

  • scrimshaw on 01/09/2015 - 20:44
    • I live in a two story townhouse

    Your options are limited if you live in a townhouse. I was in the same boat and there are very limited places in which you can place the Network termination device. That is of course, unless you want to run a counduit which as the first comment goes, looks very messy and adds extra cost to the installation.

    • wau2 on 01/09/2015 - 22:18

      Yea its annoying but I don't want a box being stuck randomly next to the main entrance door.

  • [Deactivated] on 01/09/2015 - 23:26

    Q1 - PCD to NTU is roughly up to 40m. Provided its not difficult - They don't do difficult.

    Q2 - They won't run any cables from the NTU to your router. All they do is screw an NTU & battery to the wall, plug in the fiber, do a line test and walk. (It can take 24hrs before your ISP turns the internet on, typically an hour, but its the longest hour of your life). If you want a nice neat install, get Jims or any cabler in now to cable exactly what you want & run some internal conduit to the PCD outside.

    If you chose the garage, Clipsal do an NBN flushmount enclosures, or Ikea do some cheaper Metod wall cabinets

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