Is there a way to find jobs that don't require as much experience in the same field ?
Are there jobs in Australia that doesn't require experience
zine21 on 23/12/2015 - 15:03
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can he get a trade licensing outside of the apprenticeship program? I'm not too sure how it works but when looking at the courses they require applicants to have a job lined up to complete the study aspects with the work/experience.
As far as I know, no. I could be wrong, I am not working in trades, I only know people who are. From what I have been told, you need to get an apprenticeship then get some work experience before you are issued a license.
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If you put in at temping agencies you can get lucky. usually only short term contracts though. They can vary from simple labouring jobs where they just need the numbers, or if you're technically savvy you can sometimes luck into data entry or customer services roles where there's high turn over.
My company hires a lot of casual workers that doesn't require any specific experience. However, I would recommend your relative to get a forklift/truck license if he is going to look into labouring jobs or do another apprenticeship if he is into trades.
Are there jobs in Australia that doesn't require experience
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once I looked closer I realized most of the jobs advertised require experience even in fields that you wouldn't think experience would be a big factor or that it could be taught to him (labor type work)
… Thanks to the nanny state governments all around the world who think we serve them, not, they us.
Being a politician requires no experience at all. In fact if you get elected you can make bad decisions one after the other and not get fired but instead get an indexed pension for life unlike those schmucks who have to fret over their superannuation going backwards.
Not to mention that you only have to turn up for work on about 70 days a year. And you don't have to wait for that pension or superanuation like everyone else.
Become an electrician. Work hard and get your level 2 status and work for the government. It's a great job!
Do they get a fixed yearly salary? Are there permanent job vacancies generally available in govt?
Prostitute, one of the oldest professions in the world. No exp necessary
"Are there jobs in Australia that doesn't require experience" it's a good thing you are not the one looking for the job as you would need to work on your grammar first
Unfortunately, this is a wider problem that extends to university graduates as well..
It's really bloody hard to get a job with no or limited experience.
I believe this is a problem mainly in our country. In US or India, a lot of large companies across industries (mainly IT, consulting, etc.) hire fresh graduates straight from universities in large numbers and train them further for the required skills. Also, it's relatively easy for people from other trades to get into IT by going through some training or just appearing for open recruitment tests conducted by large companies on a regular basis.
I gather that same impression. I don't think we have a skills shortage, rather a training shortage. A big component to that is that so many companies go for the hire and fire route, so when they want to hire someone, they go straight for someone they perceive will be able to do the job.
It's really annoying, since I'm being funneled into a career path which I don't really want to venture into (sales oriented), but with an engineering degree, it's difficult to get a start in any sort of company doing a technical role, especially now with the real pessimistic economic outlook. Many of my uni friends and colleagues are stuck in the same rut. Meanwhile, 457's abound since they have worked in companies which were prepared to give them a go and gained experience working with more technical roles.
True. Unfortunate state of our hiring system though one of the major reasons for this system to be able to survive happily is more skilled people in market than the number of jobs available (I wonder why they still call the skills to be in shortage - never understood this part). Companies have to go innovative with their hiring only when jobs are more and suitable candidates are less. In current situation, companies don't have any compulsion to go out of their way to try anything new.
Just to give you an example, late 90's and early/mid 2000's were the times when Indian companies (and global counterparts with offices in India) needed software engineers in thousands at a time (Fyi - top 5 largest Indian IT companies currently have total strength of employees in excess of 10,00,000) and there weren't as many good engineering colleges which produced computer engineers in such numbers though number of engineering colleges kept increasing day by day due to this demand. Now, companies had to go innovative and recruit the candidates through these two ways in addition to referral and regular lateral recruitment processes:
1) Went to reputed colleges and recruited all bright students even if they knew nothing about IT (e.g. from disciplines like Civil, Chemical, Mechanical, Physics, Maths, etc.) and trained them for 3-4 months and put them to projects. In 1-2 years, they turned into complete computer engineers at least for the skilled they needed for those jobs. A lot of them are now working with biggies like Google, Oracle, Microsoft, and Amazon.
2) Despite doing above, the companies still had huge demand of skilled manpower. It was impossible to visit career fairs of each of thousands of engineering colleges that India has and the fact that a lot of private colleges don't have a great quality of education, so these companies started holding open recruitment tests (mainly testing maths, aptitude, English, etc.) in major cities of India where an engineering graduate of any college could appear for the test if he/she meets the criteria set by company and compete with hundreds of thousands of other students. Those who succeeded went through paid training for 3-4 months and got absorbed into mainstream workforce of the IT companies. It worked out as a very efficient way of finding the best talent from lesser known colleges through the mass tests/ exams which weren't college specific unlike point#1 above.
These practices are still very common in India though now a lot of start-ups (IT and non-IT) and consulting/ analytics/ high-tech companies also do it, not just IT services companies.
Your relative may not have specific experience but he does have transferable skills - presumably he learnt SOMETHING in the three years of engineering trades. He also has the "soft skills" that he demonstrated whilst caring for his sick father. So, whilst he does not have specific qualifications he should be able to demonstrate in his application some of the kinds of things that employers are looking for. He will certainly be able to use these skills to get labour hire/contract work, and this will therefore allow him to be able to add this experience to his resume, and make him even more attractive. At this stage he needs to work on finding work of some kind to give him a recent and steady work record. It is true that many employers recruit directly from positive experiences with labour hire employees.
Labour hire companies frequently seek apprentices for employers, and some act as Registered Training providers and employ the apprentice/trainee themselves, so if he wants to re-train in a new area this would also be an option. I am not sure from your post if he actually finished the first qualification - if so this might be an issue in terms of him being able to access training. However, it might also mean that he would be eligible for recognition of prior learning as some of the basic units are very similar across industries, particularly OHS related ones.
Finally, I would agree with the poster who suggested that he get his Forklift licence. I also suggest getting his Construction Industry Safety Card (White Card) - there are lots of private providers around for these, or your local TAFE, and once again a labour hire company may help you with this.
Unfortunately, this is one of those things. I remember when I was a graduate way back when. It wasn't easy to look for a job unless you are the top 10% of the class, then you get to choose from any graduate programs from any of the big companies.
If I were in his shoes, I would think about becoming licensed in a trade of some sort, plumbing or electrician are the usually ones. The reason why they charge so much is because there is a shortage of them, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.