PSN+ etc, HELP a Parent Out

Hi all, I have 3 kids the eldest is 23 so he missed all this PSN network etc etc.

The problem is the other 2 and mainly the middle one who is now 11, he has PSN+ $70 a year and pays for the additional packs etc at $10 a pop. The other day he paid $70 to play black ops 3 online (Season pass). it is getting ridiculous.

Anyway, the younger son 9 wants to join in on the action and the arguments i here from them is "no, he cant use my acount he will sell stuff, lose etc".

Does this mean I have to pay $70 for another PSN account and $50 for the extra add ons, plus $70 for him to play black ops 3 online (Season pass)?

Thanks.

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  • +7

    You set up a new profile/PSN account for your youngest kid (without buying the PS+) and all contents are shared across both accounts including the ability to play online. You dont have to pay for any extra. Just make sure the PS4 is set as "Primary" for both accounts, it is found in the profile setting somewhere. You will only need to buy stuff once and it can be shared.

    Also, for Black Ops 3, you dont need to buy the season pass to play online. It just gives you access to future paid downloadable content. At this point, the develop has not released anything for the season pass yet.

  • feb 2nd is when the first downloadable content comes out on PS4 for black ops 3.

    paying for PS+ = paying to play online

  • -4

    "Does this mean I have to pay $70 for another PSN account and $50 for the extra add ons, plus $70 for him to play black ops 3 online (Season pass)?"

    You don't have to do any of this. Pretty sure DOCS won't confiscate the kids if you're not feeding their gaming habit. You could always try to get them to focus on things that actually might assist them in life instead.

    • +2

      I have been gaming since the age of 5. My dad bought me an SNES, Sega Saturn, PS1 and my first PC which I used primarily for gaming (Doom, Wolf3D, Worms, Blakestone, etc). I bought myself a PS3, Xbox 360 and PS4. I got two Masters degrees, worked in banks and large financial institutions, make a comfortable salary and have a beautiful wife. Gaming does not automatically mean a bad thing. In fact, my reaction and thinking always stay sharp. Yea, you might occasionally see on the news that an oddball will go to school and shoot people, but some research have shown kids who play 3D games have a better ability to solve problems from multiple angles compared to kids who doesnt game. Key thing is to set the rules clearly, i.e. like no more than 1 hour each weekday session or can only play after completing homework, etc. Overdoing any activity, irregardless if it's studies, sport or gaming, can be equally unhealthy.

      • I agree gaming per se is not bad but kids of that age should not play games with that level of violence and brutality.
        True, they might not turn out to be school shooters but violence still does have plenty of effects on young minds such as emotional numbing down for example. Often the effects are not immediate but are only seen later.
        It is not worth the risk for a game like Black Ops 3 when there are so many great games out there.
        Also, if a child does show unusual behaviour later on and the DOCS gets involved I can assure you that letting kids play adult games so early will be taken into account, even if non-openly in the mind of decision makers (which means it is hard to prove and appeal).

        • Black Ops 3 campaign has some gruesome scenes in it and not for kids but if they are just playing it for zombies/online multiplayer there is very little violence. The zombies fade into dust when you kill them and there is very little blood in multiplayer and no gore. The multiplayer modes are very tame in this game.

        • @Agret:

          Come on. How many kids do you know that would not check out the other mode?
          Unless the OP is monitoring the kids constantly, that is not going to happen and the kids will not solely stick to multiplayer zombie mode.

        • @Lysander: To be honest the singleplayer campaign has sooooo many tediously long and boring cutscenes the kids probably would get bored with it and go back to playing online mode or zombies mode where there is more instant gratification. The game asks you if you wish to disable the gore portions of the singleplayer or leave them enabled when you first boot it up so a parent should disable the gore. I'm not sure what exactly it disables though.

  • +2

    He didn't have to buy the season pass in order to play Black Ops online. All that gets you is extra maps which are not needed at all. In fact as with all DLC in FPS games all it does is give you less people to play with as you might be lucky to find that 20% of players but the map packs.
    Next time tell him to just deal with the base game or get a part time job and see if he wants to waste his own $70 on it.

  • +1

    I feel your pain- and unfortunately don't know the solution.My eldest shared his xbox account with his little brother until the little one then let his friend play and he lost or gave away a lot of the eldests "earnings" that he built up by playing. They were fun times in our house.

    My youngest spent some of his Xmas money on the dlc for call of duty the other day. It cost more than the actual game. So there will be at least one other person to play with on the 1st of February.

    I am on the lookout for a cheaper psn + deal but by the look of it they are very rare.

    • +1

      OP had PS4 not Xbox so your kid's +1 doesn't help much :p

      In order to get cheaper PSN just buy PSN credit when it's on sale. It's been 20% off several times recently in supermarkets and 7/11.

      • +1

        My son bought the dlc on the ps4 - the Xbox kid is a tightarse and wouldn't pay for the dlc.
        I am keeping my eye out on giftcardsonsale.com.au for PlayStation cards hopefully one comes up soon. I saw the 7/11 one on the last day and my local had none.

    • +1

      On the XBOX you can lock the profiles so that you require a series of button prompts to sign in as that player, the eldest should've secured his account better if he knew his little brother was not to be trusted on it.

      • +1

        Yes it was a lesson learnt by them both. Lucky it was not actual money or things they had paid for (except for hours of playing to build up credit). We were lucky though- the same kid stole money from another friends house.

  • Black OPS 3 (online or not although online would be worse in my opinion) is NOT appropriate to play for a kid who is 11 years old. Obviously the same goes for the 9-year old. Absolutely not.
    There is a reason for the ratings - they are not just there to create jobs and give the people who do it something to do.
    If you want to be a good, responsible parent maybe get them to play something age appropriate - there are so many games out there which boast great story, great gameplay and lots of fun without so much killing, blood, gore, violence.
    How can you let kids of that age play games where making brutal kills such as headshots are encouraged?

    • +1

      Black Ops 3 campaign has some gruesome scenes in it and not for kids, I would say the singleplayer is far worse than the online play. If they are just playing it for zombies/online multiplayer there is very little violence. The zombies fade into dust when you kill them and there is very little blood in multiplayer and no gore. The multiplayer modes are very tame in this game.

      • +2

        There is a setting in the options menu to turn off the blood and violent scenes.

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