So the Qld government are abolishing free travel after 9 trips. So Queensland has become even more expensive to live in, and PT is a rip off as it is.
Our roads are packed because the public rail/buses are so dear no one uses them. I drove to Brisbane from Robina this morning at 5am, and had to stop my car for 15 minutes at Springwood.
What is every ones thoughts. I love Queensland but I'm leaving once I'm finished my current job
thinking about it.. this is the final straw, qld is mental.
I love Queensland but I'm leaving once I'm finished my current job
Don't come to Sydney then as Opal card free trips are about to be axed as well.
Melbourne looks the go
Yep like all goverments of either persuasion, one day you have to balance the books unless of course you are greek.**
One day you are going to have to rob Peter to pay Paul
Although in my case as long as its not Rocky I'm ok 😀
** (I wonder if thats why Melb can do it, they have the largest greek population outside of Greece)
I think greek train drivers were getting 100k euros a year or something mental, plus retiring at 55 on 60% pension or something crazy. A study was done and the theory was it would have been cheaper to give all greeks taxi vouchers and abolish the train lines.
I think weekly tickets or yearly tickets are better. shows commitment, id happy pay 80 a week.
First world problems. Public transport is extortionate in SE QLD but there could be worse things of course.
Just get a job you can drive to, or move out of the big smoke to a regional area?
you tried the M1 in the morning, I stopped for 15 minutes ar 5:30am.
why is it so congested…oh wait the PT prices are to high, because no one uses it so they put them up to cover last years loses,and the process continues
have weekly tickets at 80% of the current cost.
yearly tickets at 60% or something
get ppl to commit
True. Guess I forgot about traffic since I only live 2 km from my workplace. I would prefer to live closer to work, even if it's a less desirable area, than to have a long or stressful commute.
yeh I would love to as well, but when your married in you and ur partner work 90kms apart one has to commute.
trains r ok, but not at 130 a week.. I lose 10k a year
qld rail is more expensive than rest of Australia. and all but few cities of the world. New York and London are cheaper.
Considering only 25% of go card users were taking advantage of the 10th and after free trip (according to their own stats) this really is not a big change.
Not to mention it also eliminates people that were doing short trips during the day (1 bus stop) to clock up 9 trips and get the remaining trips for free. So depending on those actual numbers it may increase the money received by the gov and has the potential to be passed on reducing costs. Although this is highly unlikely as the Labour gov is known to increase public transport costs each time they are in government (check out their history).
Anyway, the real solution is NOT reducing costs as effectively tax payers like yourself are subsiding the losses anyway so being realistic you are paying for public transport if you use it or not. The correct solution is to privatise the industry so companies can make money off it, increase competition hence driving down prices. Not keeping it in gov hands and being subsidised by tax payers due to inefficiencies.
Your argument is not objective and you must look at the facts.
the price is a rip off, 60% up in 4 years
trains empty
highway packed.
if this was a kfc franchise and zingers cost $12 each, I think people would stop buying and go somewhere else (ie the car). a sensible business owner would reduce the price, not whip it up more thinking it will solve the problem.
instead of spending 500+ million in roadworks, get people off the roads and subsides the fair… also good for environment.
how in Melbourne a train from werribe to Melbourne (47km) to $3.70, it costs the same to do 4km here.
Your assumptions would be correct IF you were talking about a business.
Unfortunately you fail to recognise that government is not a business and cares nothing for making a profit as it can just use taxes (as mentioned) to subsidise losses. Therefore, any improvement regarding losses is better for the tax payer in general.
Hence if this improves the system at all it will benefit you (the taxpayer). However, as previously mentioned privatising the system is the solution.
Regarding 500mill on roads it is the current governments position that the multipler effect works (for each $1 they spend an extra $1 will be created though the multipler effect). It is unfortunate but this theory has proven to be incorrect (look at Japan) but the government still insists on using it. So their idea is they will boost the economy by improving roads, networks, employing people etc. Hence the money spent on roadworks.
When this gonna happen? Any official news about this? Thanks
Unfortunately there was a loophole in that people would come to work on Monday morning from the Gold Coast and then clock up 8 single zone trips during the day in the CBD and then the rest of the week was free. The saving is approx $80 a week so well worth it. What should have been the case is that if you did 9 trips of the same price so in effect 9 trips from home to work or 9 trips from home to the shopping centre weekly then make the rest free. That way people who commute from the Gold Coast won't bother to abuse it and also we all enjoy free trips when we do 9 of the same journey.
yes of course, given the price of a single journey is $13.
how about making the price realistic, ie $8
the trains are 50% empty every morning, and the rods are packed.
just bring back dam weekly tickets with zone boundaries.
a trip to Werribee from Melbourne which is 47km is $3.90
a trip to Beenleigh from Brisbane which is 34km is $7.80
let me propose this. If you went to a supermarket and their policy was after 9 scanned items the rest are free, would you scan your two minute noodles before the porter house steak you now are buying
This complicated PT ticket crap makes Myki actually look good.
Travel within 1 zone should be free - so that you use PT to get around your "area" - movies, shops, pub, friends, sports club
Occasionally you'll want to travel to the next zone and bingo - the money starts rolling in.
Once people get used to using PT on a daily basis, they'll start leaving the car at at home more often.
And after you've spent more than the "anticipated (budgeted/required) yearly spend per passenger" - PT should be free.
Anyway - soon you'll dial-a-googlecar (driverless electric) which will pick you up from your door and drive you to your destination via gps.
No-one will own cars in the future - there'll be no point.
Update: Pleblic transport still sucks and is even more expensive.
Weren't you already planning to leave anyway? No freebies here in NSW either.