Gas Vs Electric Heater Running Cost

Comparing portable heaters only (as I don't have reverse cycle AC), I was under impression that gas heaters always much cheaper to run. Looking at my bill rate, I just realised I could be wrong.

Where I live:
Gas cost $0.035 /MJ
Electricity cost $0.22 /Kwh

Comparing 13 MJ/h gas heater and 2 Kwh electric heater, running these cost:
Gas: 13 x $0.035 = $0.455 /hr
Electric: 2 x $0.22 = $0.44 /hr

Most gas heater has electric fan too, which will add a little bit to the cost.
So clearly electric heater is a way to go as gas heater cost a lot more upfront.

Any flaw on this theory?

Comments

  • +2

    You havent calculated how much heat/$

    13 MJ is roughly 3.611111111kw. Reverse cycle tends to be more efficient in bringing that heat in though than a gas fireplace or so.

  • +1

    This is assuming the gas and electric heater produce the same amount of heat experienced.

  • +1

    I think the heat generated between 13MJ gas vs 2kwh heater is comparable.

    According to pao2x conversion, comparable 3.6 kwh electric heater will cost $0.79 /hr.
    If that's true, gas will be 42.4% cheaper

  • +4

    1kWh = 3.6Mj (no 'if that is true', or subjectivity, this is physics) in terms of energy content. If you run your 13Mj heater for one hour it will produce heat equivalent to 3.61kWh.
    So it is produces substantially more heat for approximately the same cost. You might try running the gas heater at half power, if that is an option, for lower bills and pretty similar heat.
    A couple of years ago, gas was substantially cheaper, and where I live we pay more for electricity, so the difference was more marked, but yes, gas is still cheaper than thermal electricity heating.
    But as you noted, RC A/C can have a coefficient of 5x, making it the cheapest to run.

  • +2

    Wear a jumper instead

  • Efficiency should be a factor in your calculations, Gas heaters are more efficient meaning that they produce more heat per $ making them cheaper in the end.

    • Care to elaborate more about "efficiency"?
      I thought as mskeggs mentioned above, 3.6Mj gas is producing heat comparable to 1kWh electric heater.
      I know RC AC is a different story as it uses different technique to produce heat.

      Sorry, I'm no physicist

      • +1

        The thermal electric heaters convert 100% of the electricity to heat, so very efficient. The gas heaters convert close to the same.
        You could argue that electricity is less efficient as the coal burned to produce the electricity would have only offered 40% efficiency.

        • ok.. so in terms of $ we pay vs heat generated, both gas and electricity have very similar efficiency?

        • +1

          @cimot:
          No, in terms of heat energy the efficiency is similar, but gas costs less per unit of heat.
          You did the calculation correctly above, electricity will cost 42% more for the same amount of heat energy.

        • @mskeggs: Thanks for the enlightment

  • Thank goodness. Almost had me questioning the extra gas point I had installed for $150

    • I'm also questioning my investment in gas heater I bought last winter :)

  • we have a small 3 bedroom house
    last year our winter power bills were $300 Month we had a split system and a nobo
    this year we installed ducted heating we run it on 17 degrees from 7am-9am turn off then back on at 4pm-9pm on 20-21
    or gas bills are through the roof costs us $348 for the last month in gas since we had ducted installed
    usually our gas is around $60 for 2 months for our hot water.

    and our power is around $90 per month.

    • Wow that's a big jump in gas bill. How many MJ is your ducted heater?
      We always set our gas heater to 21, but the "room temperature" displayed on the heater never go above 20 though, even if we feel much warmer already.
      The heater sits on the floor and heat goes up, so I guess that's why it never picks the correct reading.

      • The heater is a brivis starpro 421 21kw unit
        We are looking at getting a plumber in to go over it and check for leaks but there are no obvious gas smells around the house.

    • Maybe get your heater checked out?

      my ducted gas heater is on 24/7 during winter.
      18 Degrees from 10pm at night, until 8am the next morning
      then up to 20 degrees during the day from 8am until 10pm. My wife will knock it up to 21 eventually.

      my gas bill last year was about $220 a month. That includes instant hotwater, and gas stove.

  • unless you have an efficient solar panel system,
    gas heater will be cheaper and the warmth produced
    is much cosier.

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