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Trek Emonda S4 2015 Was $1999 Now $1199 @ TBE (WA - In Store Only)

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Was looking at it for the past few days, but can't afford it :(.

Nice bike all carbon fibre, one of the lightest in production so makes acceleration a breeze. Just like my wallets state….

Great transport alternative to public transport in WA now spring is coming along. Or great excuse to buy and wear Lycra :3

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    • +2

      Road bikes generally do not come with pedals. Strange but true. It's like buying a car and paying extra for alloy wheels.

      • -1

        Road bikes generally do not come with pedals.

        Mine did.

        It's like buying a car and paying extra for alloy wheels.

        Not many cars are sold without any wheels…

  • I think its actually $1199

    • +1

      Im assuming the additional cost of clipless pedals :p will edit cheers

  • +1

    Upvoted however I doubt your statement is correct "one of the lightest in production"

    Bikeexchange has them for $1499

    • +1

      The Edmonda SLR frame is one of the lightest but this one is made of lower grade materials and is not light.

    • I don't understand all the comments "light" and "lightest"

      Objects are measured in Kilograms. By specifying the weight in kilograms, it allows comparison.

      The linked website talks about "ultra lightweight" yet nowhere do they actually state how much it weighs.

      I smell BS.

      Also, the OP's claims that bike is "all carbon fibre" are also BS.

      • Lightweight is for marketing, tour defrance bikes weigh more than most $2000 bikes ……I will worry about lighter bike when I can cycle like they do.

        • Curious as to which $2000 bicycle weighs less than a Tour de France bicycle given the approved weight is 6.7kg… Any $2000 coming in at 7kg-7.5kg?

        • @cryptos:

          Track bike :P

        • +3

          Most of the TDF bikes weigh a lot less than the UCI weight limit of 6.7 Kg. Team mechanics have to put lead weights into various parts of most of the pro bikes to try and get them up to the 6.7Kg limit. If money is no object you can get bikes down around the 4.5 Kg mark I think. Ther Emonda SLR is one of the lightest going around as a pre built bikeshop bike but there would be lighter custom bikes you could get.

          There is a lot of debate amongst the cycling world about weight vs aerodynamics at the moment. The consensus seems to be that low weight is mot important for getting up hills. Aerodynamics is most important for cutting through the air. As a result, for those races or rides where you have to haul yourself and the bike up long steep hills a lighter bike is a big advantage. For those rides where you have to drag yourself and the bike along a flat track or into the wind, having an aerodynamic designed bike is probably more important. If the track involves both, most say that aero is more important. My experience is that I agree on the aero importance but it is heartbreaking to see a bunch of 65 Kg whippets on light bikes fly past you on a steep hill looking like they are doing it easy when my legs are screaming and my lungs are hanging out my mouth. catching them up again on the flats or downhills is also not so easy!

          I would also add that arguably having these advantages makes more of a difference for those of us that aren't pros than it does for the pros. I am nowhere near as fit and strong as the pros so something that gives them an extra 2% possibly gives me an extra 5%. I recently bought an aero bike and have noticed massive differences. my new bike is also a Trek (Madone 9) and it weighs just above 7 Kg. If I spent another $2k on better wheels I could get it down to about the UCI weight limit.

        • @2ndeffort:

          For training or racing?
          Train on heavier bikes, ride faster on race days with lighter bikes.

        • +1

          @tron07: Agree but there's something about being dropped massively in a bunch ride because you opted for the 9 Kg clunker that is hard to take, even if you justify it as 'training'. Mind you I have been dropped by A grade guys riding old steel training bikes that look like they came off a hard rubbish collection. At the moment I am riding my Madone all the time because:

          A. It was very expensive and I feel like I need to justify it a bit,

          B. It is awesome to ride. I put Di2 on it and I am now a massive fan. I have a couple of other bikes that I can/will ride but at the moment loving the Madone and how much easier it is taking a turn at the front into the wind! Also loving the hollow carbon swooshing sound coming down steep descents!!

        • 8.96 Kg so not light for a road bike!

      • +1

        OP's claims that bike is "all carbon fibre" are also BS

        No, OP is right:

        Fork:
        Émonda carbon, E2
        Frame:
        Ultralight 300 Series OCLV Carbon

        https://www.tbe.com.au/products/trek-emonda-s-4-2015/190853/

        • -2

          No, OP is right:

          Errr - nope. Not sure why you bothered re-posting the same link to the bike - especially when you didn't even bother reading what the pages say.

          Seatpost: Bontrager Alloy, 2-bolt head, 27.2mm, 8mm offset

          Handlebar: Bontrager Race, VR-C, 31.8mm

          Hubs: Bontrager alloy

          Rims are made from?

          Crank and pedals?

          Cassette / chain / Derailleurs, etc?

          None of those things are carbon fibre. In fact, the specs only state that TWO parts are Carbon Fibre, the frame and the lower part of the front fork (but not the headset?).

        • +1

          @llama:

          You're on drugs mate. It's pretty clear that when we say the bike is carbon, we're talking about the frame and fork. All the other bits - seatpost, bars, groupset, and wheels - are accessories that can be moved between different bikes. As for an alloy steerer in the fork, that's remarkably common. As for "it's not ALL carbon because chain" … my god, do you have to try hard to be so ridiculous?

        • @sheikyerbouti:

          You're on drugs mate. It's pretty clear that when we say the bike is carbon, we're talking about the frame and fork

          If a lady advertised themselves as "ALL woman", you certainly wouldn't expect to find any "bloke bits", eh?

          If you advertise something as "ALL Fruit", you certainly wouldn't expect it to contain any meat, eh?

          If you bought a Groupset that was advertised as "ALL Metal", then you certainly wouldn't be happy if it had plastic parts in it.

          when we say the bike is carbon, we're talking about the frame and fork

          Ahhh, so when you say a bike is "ALL Alloy", then it would have steel wheel rims?

          my god, do you have to try hard to be so ridiculous

          Hint: I am taking the piss out of you pedal heads.

      • +3

        This is a good price for a light climbing bike and from a very good brand Trek.
        Pointless comparing what is technically the lightest as bikes come in different sizes and if you a small rider, you'll get the benefit of a lighter bike again for this same model.
        They also normally only calculate the frameset, ie. not including the saddle, pedals, reflectors, handlebar tape, etc.
        Most manufacturers will not advertise the weight of the bike. You'll need to walk into the dealer, pick up the correct size frame for yourself and measure it there on a bike scale if it really means something to you.
        Pro bikes are light but there's a minimum weight they need to be at to race so they actually put on extra weight by adding things on if it comes in a little under.
        And lastly of course it can't be ALL carbon fibre as you have the chain, groupset, handlebar tape, bolts, etc. These can not be made from carbon fibre.

  • -5

    no disc brakes ….. can't see myself buying another bike without disc brakes.

    • Not that you would race on this particular bike, but I think at the moment the UCI has banned disc brakes in races. If there are any amateur racers out there, even D Grade Crit riders for local clubs, not sure that you are allowed to ride a disc brake equipped bike in an official race.

  • -6

    What negged because all my bikes have disc brakes and wouldn't buy one without it …… More road bikes come with discs now and even the entry level shimano is now hydraulic for road bikes.

    • I don't neg, but yeah disk brakes are good especially if your riding in the rain or using brakes downhill a lot. WA is pretty flat other than the hills. Also the look sweet.

      Other than that replacing, and fixing them and removing tyres are a bigger hassle and the cost for parts is daylight robbery. In addition they a slight heavier which defeats the purpose of such a bike (tho the brakes on it are questionable, but usable)

  • +2

    In a 56 this bike is listed as weighing 8.96 Kg so, in terms of road bikes, no lightweight. That said however, the emonda frame is good its just that as this is the bottom of the line model it is fitted with heavy low end parts like a Tiagra Groupset low end wheels etc. I have a spare Ultegra Groupo and regularly see cheap wheels on FB swap groups, (saw some 2nd hand Fulcrum zeros yesterday for $250). Even see Chinese carbon wheels with Novatec hubs on ebay, Aliexpress etc you could easily drop a few Kgs off the weight. this bike also has the Emonda SL frame rather than the much lighter Emonda SLR frame.

    In all seriousness, the high end Emonda with the SLR frameset is one of the lightest bikes going around. It uses a different carbon/layup I think and at $12K ish has a load of higher end parts lighter parts like a SRAM Red groupset and Aeoleus wheelset. If you are regularly riding up and down steep hills you appreciate every lost Kg, believe me but you would need to be serious about your cycling for $12K

    This is a bargain in my books. If I lived in WA I would seriously consider getting one of these, stripping it down and rebuilding with my spare groupset and lighter wheels as mentioned above. Stick an 11-28 cassette on the back and have it as a climbing bike for days in the hills. I would then try to flog off the low end wheels and Tiagra groupset on FB to help.

    Where this would be ideal would be one pof the folks that regularly comes onto OzB and asks about advice for getting into cycling. This is a frame that is worth upgrading if you like cycling and get into it more seriously. This is a bike that I would prefer over anything made by Reid, Azurri etc. This is also a bike/frame that would hold better value 2nd hand (essentially due to the Trek Frame) than any Reid/Azurri etc if you didn't like cycling and end up selling it 2nd hand in 2 years time.

    • Thanks for that post. It was extremely well explained, and contained great advice too.

      I only have steel bikes, so I would have to guess if this is lighter than mine. Maybe it is made of carbon fibre with a 10mm wall thickness? Maybe the frame is filled with some kind of ultra stiff epoxy to dampen resonations and vibration.

      It annoys me that there is much who-haa made about "lightweight" yet no weight is specified. It's a deal on a fully built machine. It is absolutely trivial to weigh the bloody thing.

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