Toilet in The Bathroom

I recently finished my house plans, with a frameless shower in the bathroom, and the toilet in it's own room.
Now, after watching that TV show, I am hearing the dunny has to be in the bathroom, and I need a doorless shower.
Neither seem to make any sense.
Some times it will be smelly, some times it will be wet, and some times there will be people banging on the door.
What are the upsides?

Comments

  • +13

    Leave the toilet in a separate room if possible if you only have one bathroom. Serious inconvenience if someone needs to use the toilet while someone else is showering otherwise.
    Showers need frames. Everyone I know who started out with doorless showers soon changed over due to the amount of water going very where making the bathroom slippery, regardless of what salespeople tell you.

    • +1

      If you have a long enough space for the shower, it's fine. If you don't have the space, it's hell.

    • Those frameless showers require a large wet area. Its only good if you have the space for at least a 2m long piece of glass to reduce the water splash, It does actually look very good frameless and opens up the bathroom. If you have a single bathroom property then keeping the toilet seperate in a room is recommended otherwise if you have two or more bathrooms then integrating the toilet in the bathroom with a frameless shower will make it look like a nice big bathroom and add value

      So just depends on what you want. A lot of my clients request a bathroom with frameless, double shower, large wall width vanity mirrors above the sink tiled to the ceiling freestanding bath and toilet in the same room. This is the current trend and gives the bathroom an upmarket look, the full wall width mirrors really makes the place look larger than it is.

    • +8

      Leave the toilet in a separate room if possible if you only have one bathroom. Serious inconvenience if someone needs to use the toilet while someone else is showering otherwise.

      Agree. From my experience in The Sims, guest will not like it.

    • +2

      If you leave your toilet in the bathroom just remember to always put the lid down before you flush otherwise you might be brushing your teeth with 'particles'.

  • Nah. Dunny in bathroom. Can do poos and then not wipe and have a bubble bath

    • As a bonus, you get floaty friends for your rubber ducky !!!!

  • +3

    TV rarely makes sense.

  • +4

    Now, after watching that TV show, I am hearing the dunny has to be in the bathroom, and I need a doorless shower.

    Change the channel? Damn …

    • +1

      People watch that hogwash?
      They should be on OzBargain instead. Or at least SBS.

  • +2

    You wanna damage the doulton in its own room. The people on them tv shows their shit don't smell, so they are happy to drop trees around others.
    Water going to splash so either plan on a door or similar or put some towels down! You can't help but flick water it makes for safety Hazzard!

  • +1

    If your living in it do what ya want. If ya wanna sell, listen to the tv and ask real estate for advice.

  • I have a walk in shower with no door and I don't have any issues with water going outside of shower area. My shower is 1700mm long and the glass screen is 950mm long. Drainage is in the centre of shower. I have the toilet in the bathroom due to house size but definitely better to have it separate if feasible

  • +5

    Separate room every time if possible. Much better for families with more than one kid so one can use the loo while another can use the shower. Loo in the ensuite is ok when there is another bathroom. The tv shows are obsessed with having huge rooms so adding the loo space into the bathroom gives an impression of a larger space.

    No idea what people are thinking when they put an ensuite in without some sort of door between it and the bedroom what with the escaping smells and steam.

  • +1

    Well, if That TV Show said it…

  • Get 2+ bathrooms.

  • +4

    If you have it separate, then for the love of all things holy, have a hand basin in with it.

    • +3

      We have the separate toilet and bathroom and won't ever have a home with them joined together.

      We picked up a Caroma toilet suite at Bunnings that has a hand basin over the cistern. Basically, you wash your hands with the clean water that will end up filling the cistern. https://www.bunnings.com.au/caroma-wels-5-star-flush-profile…

  • +1

    But what will you name it?

  • "Neither seem to make any sense. "

    Makes as much sense as designing your house based on a TV prog…….next week it'll be "an outside toilet is a must have, it's just so natural"

    Seriously, especially if you have kids, it's got to be in a separate room. Ditto if it's a single toilet abode. The mention of adding a basin is a damned good idea if possible.

    Don't forget too that every now and then everyone has a bout of the tummy wobbles, sharing that and the lingering after fug is definitely not caring!

    No mention of consulting a partner so single?? Even if so remember a future partner may strongly prefer a throne alone.

    Doorless shower, not for me…I hate the cold. If you do too then think of winter and showering when in a hurry, no time for any heater to have an affect.

    Finally, I remember a Mythbusters ep talking about aerosol effects from flushing….mmmmm those toothbrushes out in the bathroom cum toilet.

  • +1

    Don't people think for themselves anymore or they need the TV to guide their every decision?
    Keep ém separate, I say!

  • +2

    Double showers are a daft idea too. Wasting space for what benefit? If you are that desperate to have a shower at the same time get a house with 2 bathrooms. Of the houses I've lived in most of them haven't had enough water pressure to be able to have two hot showers at the same time anyway.

    Free standing baths are another daft idea. Sure they look cool, but how the heck do you clean behind them when they are stuck up against a wall. Just imagine all the hair and dust that will accumulate there and how easy it is going to be to remove once it gets wet. An open shower next to it just makes it worst.

    Also remember that the TV show is in a different market to most normal people. $2mil apartments aren't your typical home.

    • Double showers can be fun …

      • But so is a reasonably sized single shower

  • +1

    If you go back and look at a lot of houses built in Australia over the last century, I'd suggest most houses have the toilet in a separate room. Apartments, units and the like often have the toilet in a bathroom to save on space, and I suppose strictly for space saving sake, this makes the most sense. However, personally given the choice I would always opt for a toilet in a separate room, mainly because of odour. You won't just use the bathroom for showering, if you have a bath or if someone simply wants to use the vanity for make up etc then you'll no doubt eventually find having a seperate toilet paying dividends with reduced gross factor.

  • +3

    I prefer separate because I dislike the thought of having airbourne poo particles land on my toothbrush.

    • airbourne poo particles

      What sort of poos do you do? The spray type?

      • If you smell it you are tasting it. That's the wonder of airborne particles

  • I hate toilets in bathrooms, especially next to towels and toothbrushes. Even in hotels I remove the towels and keep them outside the bathroom, I do the same with my toothbrush. Lucky enough that our ensuite bathroom has a door between the toilet and the rest of the bathroom.

  • For those of you who like the toilet separate from the shower and sink/basin, where are you washing your hands? Yes, it is convenient having the toilet separate so that it can be used when someone is in the shower, but how do you go about washing your hands afterwards?

    • +1

      Some bathrooms are near laundry basin. Otherwise there's always the kitchen sink if need be

      • +1

        Separate toilet room should always have a little basin in it, it's easy enough to put one in when building. I know a lot don't though.

    • +1

      We bought a Caroma toilet 6+ years ago which has a hand basin over the cistern. Flush, wash your hands, then leave while the cistern continues to fill.
      https://www.bunnings.com.au/caroma-wels-5-star-flush-profile…

  • Its much better to have them seperate, I lived in places where they are in the same place
    Always have to wait for someone to finish, water gets everywhere.

  • +2

    I have a shower with just tiles on the wall and a large glass screen, no door. No matter how we angle the showerhead so much water gets out of the door gap!! It is freaking annoying and makes the grout on the outside of the shower nasty. It even gets on the walls and makes it look dirty. Total pain.

  • Thanks everyone. Great input about a basin in the toilet, draft from doorless showers, and the hazards of a freestanding bath.
    So, to go back to the TV show, why would they be flogging it, when it looks like about 100% of potential buyers know it's stupid?

    • +1

      As long as it looks modern/trendy, spacious then it doesn't matter about being practical in a lot of cases.

      Think about a big open kitchen, dining, family, living room space divided into 'zones'. Looks big and open and airy but fill it up with a couple of families and the kids noise will drown out any hope of a conversation at the dinner table. Not practical.

      Gardens that are landscaped within an inch of their lives, different 'zones' separated by screens, tiny patch of grass, lots of paving or a ridiculous sized deck. Can't kick a ball around or play cricket and depending on the climate only want to eat outside a few months a year because of bugs, cold, hot.

      TV shows are made to sell more stuff at Bunnings and IKEA, not to remodel practical homes.

    • +2

      Their main issue was not that the toilet would be separate but more the fact that they were not actually going to have that toilet - they had not allowed for a separate toilet .

      when it came to selling they would have one less bathroom to advertise than their competitors. I think bathrooms are based on toilets which is why some places have 1 and 1/2 baths if there just a toilet.

      These properties are in competition with each other and a combined toilet does allow you to have a bigger bathroom which is important in a multi million dollar price range.

      Maybe people who live in million dollar properties think their sh*t don't stink.

  • Why can't you have both? In the big scheme of things, an extra toilet is insignificant in cost before the build.
    If the toilet isn't in the shower then everyone is going to piss in the shower, or the bath.
    We have 3 bathrooms inside. One has a bath. All have toilets and showers. Each one has two fans installed so there's no lingering funk or steam. Plus there's a toilet outside. Can never have enough toilets. It's like a palace.

    • Do you find two fans effective? my bathroom has one fan and I get quite a build up of steam and was thinking of putting in a second fan.

      • Depends where the fans are. Our ensuite fan is directly above the shower, hardly any steam gets away. Main bathroom the fan is just outside the shower door and works well. Don't use the third much, but the fan is 'around a corner' from the shower so is probably the least effective of the three.

      • we have the heat light/fan/light where you dry off and a fan above the shower. Don't even get condensation on the mirror. The fans are wired as one.

        It's important to remember that your fan needs an air source to be able to expell air, and while the crack under the door is technically an air source, it's much better if there's an window open.

        • My bathroom ceiling is 3.2m high and although I have a fan above the shower, some of the steam escapes before it can be sucked up into the fan therefore creating a steamy bathroom. I do leave the window open as well during showering and also afterwards but I was thinking of putting another fan in the centre of the bathroom

        • @chumlee: Yeah, quite high. Go for more power!

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