Need help for a spec list for a $650 Gaming PC

Hey all,
I pretty much have three questions.

1) I'm currently looking into building a new gaming machine at a tight budget (obviously being a ozbargainer).
I need opinions and thoughts on what parts I should get. I can go over my budget by $100 or so.

2) I also have a power supply which is quite old. It is a 550w from WideTECH and has been sitting around for a while. Do I use this power supply or get a new one?

3) One of my close friends is offering me his MSI GTX 970 for 275. Is that worth adding to the list of parts?

Thanks guys!

Comments

  • +2

    1) Check this site for an idea of builds for your budget. Make sure you select Australia in the choices at the top-right of the list

    2) Never heard of that brand. You should get a recognised brand of PSU.

    3) If you mean $275 on top of the $650 then that sounds quite reasonable. gtx970 is enough to max out most games at 1080p.

    If you mean 275 out of the $650-750 (i.e $400 or somethign for the rest of your build) then you'd have a pretty hard time getting decent components otherwise and I would actually recommend against doing so.

    Good luck!

    • I ment 275 from the 650-700. Im still considering buying it.

      Thanks so much!

  • +1

    That WideTech is a ticking time bomb, it's sold dirt cheap for $30~40 years ago as I recall ($55 dollars now, what a ripper!) but you shouldn't be using a power supply that cheap in a gaming system.

    Here's a PSU listing by Tiers, obviously Tier 1 is far too extreme for your budget, so I recommend a Tier 3 power supply from the list. You should probably try to future proof your system by buying a PSU not for the current build, but for any future upgrades you might want to perform to the rig (e.g better GPU's need more power)

  • I've recently built a new PC, but if I were limited to that kind of budget, I would just stretch and go for one of the refurbished Alienware Alpha's… they even come with an XBox controller.

    See here: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/product…

    Everything is already done for you and it comes with OS included and installed.

  • +3

    The following example costs ~$770 (no OS). It's $120 over your budget but I think it will be amazing for budget gamer.

    Type Item Price
    CPU Core i3 6100 $159
    Mobo Asrock H110M-HDS $85
    RAM Crucial DDR4 2133 8GB $55
    HDD WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM $69
    SSD maybe later $0
    Case Deepcool Tesseract $55
    PSU Silverstone Strider Essential 500W $59
    GPU Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB Windforce OC $288 Ebay 20% deal
    Total $770 (all from mwave online except GPU)
    • -1

      i3?… Not for gaming.

      • +1

        i3 is fine for budget gaming, our 2nd computer is running an i3 4170 and a gtx 570 and it plays ark on medium @ 40FPS. Before that was running a Pentium G3258 @ 4.5ghz with similar FPS. Only thing slowing FPS is the lack of VRAM on the 570.

        • Agreed, i3 is fine for gaming. If you can afford better, by all means jump up to an i5, but it's not going to make a huge difference.

          My only modification to that shopping list would be to swap around the hard drive priority.

          Drop out the 1TB HDD and get a 250GB SSD. The upgrade cost is only $20-30 and unless you need the extra storage space, the SSD will give a far better result; much faster boot speeds, general improvements in system response times, and vastly improved load speeds in games.

          You can always add a larger storage drive later if you need more space for non-vital data (movies, music, archives).

    • Wowsers… so according to here:
      http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/fallout4#litiers

      the above should play Fallout 4, amiright??

      http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/fallout4#litiers

      • +2

        Ultra right !

        As with most games, your graphics card will have the greatest impact on performance in Fallout 4. And while the game doesn’t quite look as aesthetically spectacular as some of the prettiest games of 2015, the fact that it’s an open-world game means that the draw distance is quite long (i.e. the game renders objects that are far away from the player), which requires significant graphical power in its own right.

        According to GamersNexus, Fallout 4 uses a little under 3 GB of video RAM at 1080p with Ultra settings, but even many 2 GB graphics cards can handle the game at around 50+ frames per second (FPS) on 1080p Ultra. Thankfully, Fallout 4 is still very playable in the 45+ FPS range, which we consider “smooth.”

        At 1080p on Ultra, the most affordable graphics cards to achieve high framerates will be the NVIDIA GTX 960 or the AMD R9 380.

        For 1440p on Ultra, you’re better off with the GTX 1060. For 60 FPS at 4K resolution, you’ll need a GTX 1080.

        Fallout 4 CPU Requirements
        Your CPU will play a role in how well Fallout 4 performs, but not nearly as much as your GPU. Benchmarks from Tom’s Hardware suggest that Intel Core i3 CPUs are enough to handle the game without major hits to performance. You should be fine with a CPU even in the range of an Intel i3-6100 or AMD FX-6350.

        If you want to run Fallout 4 on high settings without breaking the bank, make sure you get a sufficiently powerful graphics card, but feel free to save a little money on the CPU. As long as it’s powerful enough, you won’t notice a huge performance difference between a budget CPU and a higher-end one when it comes to playing many games, including Fallout 4.

        • Well then…

          You, sir, have just cost me $800ish. Time to get searching.

          Thank you :D

        • @Adz81: no worries.. Dont forget $100 ebay voucher to save some cash

  • a tight budget (obviously being a ozbargainer).

    Actually on the contrary, I dare say most builds on here are easy $1k+. Just have to look at the popularity of 1070/1080 deals to realise that.

    I started with an i5 system for about your budget, but that was just the tower. No SSD at the time, and only on board graphics. I've since added an SSD (omg wow!) and am yet to add a gpu. But I have got 16gb ram (Mrs does photoshop).

    My advice, do the build at your budget with the basics that will get you through, and add to it as money allows. Very easy to add SSD, extra ram, graphics card, at later stages.

  • i say forget about buying new stuff, go on your local gumtree and search for last gen cpu and motherboard second hand.
    650 can easily get you an i5 4th gen, motherboard, 8 gig ram, gtx 770,780 r9 290(x) r9 380x r9 390, dont forget to check ebay too..
    heres some rough idea for you
    i5 4690k 250
    i5 4690 200
    i5 4670k 200
    i5 4670 $175
    i5 4570 $150
    i5 4460 $140

    4th gen motherboard should be less than $100 for z series and less than $70 for h and lesser series

    8gb ram easily less than $50 (get value ram with no heatsink if your not planning to overclock they are price at $20 for secondhand and $40 for 2 sticks of 4gb at msy last month i checked, ddr3 by the way)

    gtx 770 $150
    gtx 780 $200
    r9 290 $150
    r9 290x $235
    r9 380x $150
    r9 390 $275

    you can get that deepcool tesseract case for $55 brand new (i suggest the white one or the black and red one) they have good quality for $55 range case

    and if you want cheap os you can get windows 10pro for $40+ wind10 $30+ win8.1 $20+ at kinguin.net, dont forget to add the kinguin buyer protection incase of non working key..

    price may vary, some people will put ridiculous price on this ask them if you can negotiate on the price,
    remember ask them to show if the item is working or not, and always if you buying something on gumtree always go to the sellers house never meet up else where incase of you getting scammed over a dead item you can always return it, and always have their mobile number even if your using gumtree message, once they deleted your conversation on gumtree you may not contact him again, it doesnt matter how cheap the item is, if the seller doesnt have time to show if the item is working or not just ask them to have their words for it if its working or not and once you try and it doesnt work contact them immediately regarding the issue on the item, try contacting on the same day if you try to recontact them the next day theres a big chance that they will have so much excuse that your taking so long to report.

    good luck on your build!

  • Don't try and build a new rig for that kind of money - you're going to make too many compromises to get a good result.

    Instead, look for a used gaming PC from Gumtree, eBay or your local classifieds. There are plenty of people who are selling their last-gen gaming rigs that cost $1200+ to build that are now selling for around $700 so they can get a newer machine with the very latest specs. You can pick up some real bargains if you know what to look for.

    • +1

      He could also look for used PC parts on eBay and build a PC. There are many cheap PC parts from people who've just upgraded their own rig.

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