Got placed at work from a scholarship but place too far. What to do?

Recently got called as my degree is coming to an end about my job offer at a High School which 12 and a half hours away from home. I am under a scholarship and when I was 18, I lodged in this scholarship and accidentally placed a rural area. I wanted to get some advice on how I could go about trying to appeal for a closer area as it has been 5 years since lodging in this contract. Any advice would be helpful :)

What may happen:

  1. It either try to appeal and get another school which I hope will happen.
  2. Appeal disapproved and pay back $25k as deed of agreement is not reached.

Some of what the deed of agreement states are as follows;

  1. Where the Sponsorship Holder is a permanent employee of DET prior to the date that the
    Sponsorship Holder signs this Deed of Agreement to undertake the Program, the
    Sponsorship Holder acknowledges that DET, by entering into this Deed of Agreement, is
    to provide costly support and monitoring to the Sponsorship Holder based on
    representations made by the Sponsorship Holder, particularly in or in connection with the
    Sponsorship Holder’s application for assistance, and accordingly if the Sponsorship
    Holder:
    i. fails to satisfactorily complete the Program (as to which DET shall be the sole judge);
    or
    ii. withdraws from the Program; or
    iii. refuses to accept an appointment to an Envisaged Appointment Area position
    following the Program; or
    iv. refuses, fails or is unable to enter on duty in an Envisaged Appointment Area position
    with DET during or following completion of the Program; or
    v. takes any period of unauthorised absence during the Period of Commitment; or
    vi. resigns, retires or is dismissed from employment with DET or accepts a position
    which has been advertised for filling through a merit selection process; or vii. is found to have made any misrepresentation, particularly in or in connection with the
    Sponsorship Holder’s application for assistance, as to:
    a. any pre-existing medical condition (see clause 5) which may bear upon the ability
    of the Sponsorship Holder to be appointed to and fulfil the duties involved in an
    Envisaged Appointment Area position;
    b. the ability of the Sponsorship Holder to undertake training and perform the duties
    involved in the Envisaged Appointment Area position;
    c. the Sponsorship Holder having been, prior to the date of this Deed of Agreement,
    or becoming, during the period of this Deed of Agreement, an "undischarged
    bankrupt";
    viii. is found to have been or becomes an “undischarged bankrupt”; or
    ix. is found to have a medical condition which renders the Sponsorship Holder unable to
    complete the training or fulfil the duties involved in a position in the Envisaged
    Appointment Area,
    then the Sponsorship Holder will:
    x. [unless circumstances envisaged by clause 7(vi) occur] be given nominated transfer
    status to the staffing area of the school in which the Sponsorship Holder taught
    immediately prior to commencing the Program or any three (two, if there be fewer
    than three) surrounding staffing areas; and
    xi. pay, without delay, to DET, an amount equal to the financial assistance paid to the
    Sponsorship Holder by DET under this Deed of Agreement. Where the Sponsorship
    Holder has served part of the service required by this Deed of Agreement, the
    amount due under this clause will be reduced proportionately. This payment will not
    be required if evidence, complying with clause 8 and satisfactory to DET, is provided
    by the Sponsorship Holder that the failure, withdrawal or refusal occurred because of
    injury or illness which occurred or first arose after the date of this Deed of Agreement
    unless such injury or illness or cause thereof was known to exist or its existence was
    reasonably foreseeable at the time of entering this Deed of Agreement.

  2. Where a Sponsorship Holder seeks to rely on an illness or injury to establish that
    repayment to DET under any of clauses 5, 6, 7 or 11 is not due and payable, the
    Sponsorship Holder must, prior to ceasing to complete training or prior to ceasing to fulfil
    the duties involved in an Envisaged Appointment Area position, provide to DET medical
    evidence, satisfactory to DET, in support of the alleged illness or injury. Additionally, to
    assist DET in forming DET’s view as to whether the circumstances justify exempting the
    Sponsorship Holder from the obligation to repay the financial assistance paid to the
    Sponsorship Holder by DET under this Deed of Agreement, the Sponsorship Holder must,
    if required by DET:
    i. undergo a medical assessment by a recognised doctor/medical specialist chosen by
    and at DET’s discretion, such as from HealthQuest;
    ii. provide such further or other information or medical opinion as DET may request.

  3. On satisfactory completion of relevant training and, where applicable, a personal
    suitability interview, the Sponsorship Holder will be appointed, either “as a permanent
    teacher” pursuant to Section 47 of the Teaching Service Act 1980 or on probation as a
    teacher pursuant to Section 48 of the Teaching Service Act 1980, to an Envisaged
    Appointment Area position, as specified in Item 5 of the Schedule.

  4. On accepting an appointment, or change to an appointment, to an Envisaged
    Appointment Area position, the eligibility or otherwise of the Sponsorship Holder to
    relocation expenses will be subject to the DET policy as set out in the Teachers
    Handbook as issued from time to time by DET

Comments

  • +9

    Consider packing your bags and moving to a rural area for the period of the contract. You might enjoy the experience.

    A reason you may have been selected as a scholarship recipient was ticking rural on the application - hence being able to appeal and relocate may give you certain advantages over original applicants who did not tick rural.

    I suggest you just try to appeal and follow the due course of processes. All you can really do.

    • -3

      yup sucks. At that age I was not sure where the places were :/ only if i knew earlier. You think a eczema could be a medical reason as I have buy prescribed cream on repetition? Really can't leave parents at home as well due to their age.

      Worse comes to worst might have to return the money :(

      • Where is this school btw? just curious.

        • -2

          border between nsw, sa and melb LOLS literally could be standing in both states :')

      • In your appeal mention that you are the primary care giver to your parents and situation has changed from the time of the application and ask on reasonable grounds to be offered a closer placement.

        • +2

          Just FYI, he has no grounds to appeal for somewhere closer. Quite simply, he got the scholarship because he ticked the box saying that he was more than willing to go to a rural town. When he signed his scholarship offer, he would have been made aware that he would be sent to a rural location. The scholarship (probably) does not allow him to work anywhere close to home. He basically took a ridiculous gamble and now regrets it.

  • +6

    You may well have received the scholarship because of selecting to be placed in a rural area… Whether it was a mistake or not, you can't really back out now. Either you go rural or pay back the money. If your parents are too old to live alone, you can probably bring them with you. My mate who is a rural teacher gets subsidised accommodation and gets a 3 bedroom house for next to nothing.

  • -1

    Sounds like you should check out Wake in fright, let you know what you're in for! :)

    https://g.co/kgs/EO1CuK

  • +1

    The info for this program as far back as 2009 is really clear on the fact you can be placed in western sydney or a rural area, and you have to attend a face to face interview where it is discussed. It is a multiple step process application process where it is reinforced several times.

    I cannot imagine how you achieved a UAI that enabled entry to a teaching degree, managed to get this competitive scholarship and failed to understand this (although your grammar, and calling melbourne a state are not encouraging for the future of our publically educated youth)

    I reckon you took the gamble that it would be in western sydney and are now disappointed you got a rural area. You have no grounds for appeal. I don't know what you think of rural nsw, but you can definitely buy prescription eczema cream. Your parents aging is a pre-existing condition unless they have become seriously disabled after the time you accepted and you currently undertake significant caring duties.

    By taking this scholarship only intending to fulfill it if convenient you've taken an opportunity away from a student who may have had more integrity and done well with this support. I hope when you have to return the money it is with interest.

  • +2

    This programme has been running since before I graduated in 1994, and friends got both rural and challenging metro west schools.
    The sole purpose of the scheme is to fill the vacancies in these hard to staff areas.
    If you selected the rural option, you will have been granted the dough on that basis.
    You can take the job or pay it back. It is reasonable to ask for a placement in the metro area if possible, there are likely to be others in your boat declining metro posts and they may let you swap. Or they may insist on you doing what you said you would do.

    Bear in mind when you complete a far west posting you can get advanced standing for vacancies in the Sydney area. Unless you have other stand out talents, it is the shortest path to a "good" school in desirable areas.
    All the friends I know who went out bush had a great time, were warmly welcomed, and some stayed longer than the minimum.
    You will also get paid a little more and get some extra leave if it is indeed the far west.
    Have your parents said they will be unable to live alone without you?
    I guess from the tone of what you are writing you are a bit intimidated by the long distance, but consider it might be a good adventure and allow you to mature.
    Note I do not think requiring skin medication will be an acceptable grounds for any sort of appeal, you are moving to a country town with doctors and pharmacy services. Raising it may cause a lack of sympathy in the people reviewing it.

  • When I enrolled in my teaching degree, I was given some advice by current teachers to not apply for the scholarships because of the measly $25k over 4 years offered, while putting a return of service obligation potentially in whoop whoop for a few years on the table. It was made even less attractive when the transfer system got phased out by local schools, local decisions. What is $6250 a year? Hardly worth the chance of being posted to a shithole.
    People that sign up for the $25k scholarships must be super desperate or naive, or have a genuine passion for teaching in far flung areas. I massively regret not accepting a law transfer in my first year, and I pray to God I won't ever need to teach full time.

    I may feel differently about teaching once these current assessments and essays are done, but for now I'm sick of it.

    • +1

      totally agree that with LSLD replacing transfer points, there isn't much incentive in going rural. I think the only real incentive is a full-time job and tonnes of work experience. However, I do feel that you would probably burn-out before your time is up.

      Also, I do hope that the current "tying salary to accreditation" and all the redundant paperwork associated with it will soon be dropped.
      I am not against PD or improving oneself, but the DoE's approach is just wrong.

    • -1

      Ye well they target high school students well with this scholarship scheme. And I have now felt the wraith of such a scheme and under the reason why they offer it … wouldn't really recommend it to others :/

      • Lol once upon a time I thought $5k over two years from the Defence Scholarship Scheme was really good money - it is for doing nothing, and I made approximately $27/period in engineering studies just by being there. But age does give a different perspective on what a lot of money is and what isn't a lot of money. I don't blame you for signing up early on. If I didn't get the advice I got given, I'd probably be in a similar situation myself.

        • +1

          It sad that it's targeted at kids fresh out of high school who have no idea of what they really getting themselves into. Then get that midlife crisis of wtf did I get myself into lols

        • @trarob: did you have a change of heart about your degree at all close to the end? I've got one placement left and I really don't want to teach, but it just seems silly to quit now lol

        • +1

          @niggard:
          I didn't ever get a job teaching, but did finish the degree (even went on and did a coursework masters).
          Employers recognise a degree as a degree for office jobs, so it is useful to graduate. I found the skills I learned in Education were very addressable to the corporate world.

  • Think of all the extra experience you will gain in a rural area. You'll get to do more as a teacher because the resources are less and you'll have to do it yourself.

    Better still, you might even enjoy it and decide a life on the land is a better choice than all the hassles of a city.

    My wife studied teaching after we married, she chose not to accept rural positions due to family commitments, but she didn't have a contract that said it may be required. Her friends who were willing to accept a rural position got a permanent job straight away while my wife had to battle to get a position doing casual work with everyone else.

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