Selling second hand appliances safety tips

Hi guys,

I am about to sell off my dishwasher and I have put it on Gumtree. The buyer is gonna come to our house tomorrow to pick it up.

Any safety tips for dealing with him? We are scared of fake cash given to us or daylight robbery. Any advice please?

Feel free to share your stories as well.

Thanks and cheers.

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  • +20

    Its pretty hard to pick up a dishwasher and run away with it

    • That was what I thought but can it be used as an excuse to get into your house to pull out a robbery or something?

      • +4

        Do what I do when selling stuff, leave it out the front of your house and close the front door when they get there.

        I would highly advise against letting a random person into your house, no matter how friendly they seem.

  • +5

    In the case of selling, there is less risk in that they don't know if you have money. They are bringing the cash.

    They might try to negotiate and bring down your price, with a hint that they will walk away from the deal.

    Have a security camera rolling. Have someone else there.

    If someone tries to rob you, hand over the cash. As for counterfeit money, Australian bills have quite a few protections, so you can learn to detect a fake. But the good fakes can fool even banks. http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/counterfeit-detection/counterfei…

  • +34

    If they had fake cash, second hand dishwashers is not going to be high up on the list of ways to use it.

    You're worrying too much. It's a dishwasher. Just take the money then let them take it. Not really much to go wrong with this transaction.

  • +2

    Any safety tips for dealing with him? We are scared off fake cash given to us or daylight robbery. Any advise please?

    *Advice

    Make sure the cash is in your hand first before you let him load it into his vehicle.

    • yeah, advice, sorry for my bad grammar, was on a rush.

      Thanks for the advice, I will make sure the cash is in my hand first.

  • I am sure you would have had a conversation with the person who you are selling the dishwasher to.
    Was there any indication that the person is a scammer?
    If not what make you think the cash could be fake?

    • nah, no indication so it is purely my speculation, probably based on lots of horrible stories about Gumtree

      • +1

        speculation?
        sounds more like complete paranoia to me

        Maybe Jason Voorhees needs a dishwasher

  • +8

    Heard too many stories about gumtree scams apparently. I've been trading on gumtree for a few years and not had any dramas. Most people are pretty good to deal with.

    Gumtree is designed for face to face and cash transactions. Selling a dishwasher is a pretty low risk transaction. It's hard for them to grab it and run away. If you are worried about letting them into the house, drag it out the front before they get there, that's what I do. I've never had a gumtree or ebay buyer in my house, or even round the back everything is at the front door or in the front yard.

    If they want to test it, sorry mate, there is a new one sitting in the space and I've got no other plumbing. Run an extension lead out to where it is if necessary so they can see it turns on.

    • yes, this.

    • thanks for the advice. But we are moving out anyway so it wont be a problem, is it?

      • +1

        Nope. No problem.

  • +10

    about 4 years I sold a dishwasher on ebay. the dishwasher was sitting in the garage when we bought our house. I powered it up and it beeped and had lights. that was the extent of testing. That is how I advertised it. it sold and the guy came and handed me the money and I helped load it on to his ute. he left and I went to the bottle shop and bought some beer. the next day I went to work and had sushi for lunch

    • Thanks. I hope our transaction will go as smoothly as yours

    • I (profanity) love sushi

    • I don't know if I should be sad for the anti-climax or happy that nothing bad happened.

    • Sushi - you high roller.

  • +3

    Search them for guns before you let them come in.

    • +2

      Not secure enough. Must be stripped searched first. 😆

      • While you're at it, I'll say go cavity search for the extra security and peace of mind

        • ofcourse.

  • +6

    Answer the door naked to assert your dominance then proceed to continue with the transaction.

    If he pulls a knife or asks for your wallet proceed to rub said possessions on body genitalia.

    If he is still unphased by all this make new friend or sex partner and rejoice in your new Gumtree lover companion.

    No but seriously just keep an eye on the person at all times and just be friendly.

    If you end up on the news well…

  • +2

    Sold a 10yr old broken Asko dishwasher and guess who turned up to pick it up? An Asko service man in his Asko van! Got $50 and it was less hassle than disposing of it. The guy claimed he would fix it for his mother, yeah right. He obviously had a little refurb side business going on. Bet he turns up to repair jobs and if the customer declines to get it fixed he says, as a gesture of goodwill, I'll dispose of the broken one for you. Then fixes and flips.

    • Doing it in Uniform isn't a good look for Asko but otherwise, this sounds like a very good business. If i were buying a second hand dishwasher, that is exactly the kind of person i'd want to buy it off. Often dishwashers stop working because some internal part has come loose or needs replacing. I'd never know how to do it but for some people this is their bread and butter.

  • +8

    How do people like the OP live their day to day lives?

    Do you not know how money looks like?

    How likely is it that someone would set up an elaborate scam to rip off people selling 2nd hand dishwashers?

    If you were afraid of this, why did you even bother to sell 2nd hand in the first place?

    • +1

      I was not like this before but I heard a horrible story happened to someone who is very close to me. He was robbed during the day for selling his phone on gumtree.

      Therefore, I am a bit too much cautious this time. Better be safe than sorry, I thought. Trust me, I hate myself for having to be like this.

      • +1

        Yeah there's plenty of robbery stories re phones on GUMTREE.

        Hey don't feel bad, I literally got spooked by the bloke who turned up to by my gas HEATER and started to beef up my home security. After he then accidentally rang me 3x the next day when meaning to call someone else, I chalked it up to him being a harmless idiot but still good excuse to idiotproof the home

        In thinking of using eBay for all my transactions where possible. It costs 10% for some peace of mind

  • +8

    Hey guys, thanks all for your help. The transaction went smoothly this morning and the guy turned out to be very genuine. The money has been safely deposited into the bank so all good.

    Faith in humanity somewhat restored.

    • Mate uve been spooked by the one in a thousand that get scammed and think ur next college boy.

      Truth is it's un eventful most of the time. I let all sorts of people in my house. Being 6ft 2 and built like a brick house usually diswades anyone from pulling any funny stuff.

      The only thing I'll add is if they contact you check out their profile and how long they have been members of the site. If it's a few years ull have no dramas. Im a 5 years long member so I get a lot of footy ticket sales when others list them cheaper but haven't only been members for a short while. It's the only real trust u have.

      More of then then not they just won't screw u down on price and they the 2 pronged attack. SMS then online msg. ;-)

      • The guy called me directly as I left my phone number in my listing. I will take your advice and in the future, only let the buyer contact through gumtree account.

        Thanks a lot !!!

  • -3

    Indians huh. Probably hired a security guard too.

  • +3

    A pair of dirty men's work boots casually dropped outside the front door never goes astray.

  • I always like to keep an eye out if they are noticing specific details of your home e.g. looking at the placement of security doors/cameras, windows etc.
    If they notice you have nice things, and can be broken into easily then that becomes a risk.

    • Thanks for the advice. In my situation, the opposite happened. The guy was reluctant at first when I invited him into the house.

  • Did you have to demonstrate it working before he took it?

    • I unplugged all of the plumping things but left the power cable plugged in and showed the guy that it turned on and the electronic panel was working. He was happy with that.

      But it is probably different in my case since the dishwasher is still under manufacturer warranty and I gave him my original receipt as well.

  • Since we are on appliances topic, I have been trying to sell my Frost Fridge for past 3 weeks, no luck so far. the ones that have messaged me or came to take a look get uninterested when they realize its a frost fridge.

    had 1 guy ask me about the fridge, he was really interested and knew things about frost fridge(free ice) but I think he got a smaller fridge later.

    I think gumtree should have a seller rating, where the customers who have bought products from them, leaves a rating and a comment.

    Any tips on how I can improve my chances of selling?

    And OP, you are worrying too much.

    • Maybe because of the price. I believe that frost fridge is very old now so probably lower your price a bit more and clearly say that it is a frost fridge (i.e. Not a frost free fridge)

    • +1

      And yeah, I was worrying too much. Luckily, everything is fine. :)

    • no one wants a fridge that isn't frost free. No one. There are free frost free fridges on gumtree all the time.

      Why is someone going to pay actual money for something with frost????

  • As for fake cash. The amount of fake bills circulating is like 1 in 50,000. Just check for the raised text on the clear plastic windows on the 50 dollar notes, fake notes will not have this feature.

    As for daylight robbery there are easier ways of doing it that doesn't leave a digital trail.

  • Just take normal precautions.

    Also, as for leaving it out the front, I'd want to see the Dishwasher at least turning on if I was buying second hand, but I guess YMMV.

  • +3

    I've never had any issues with Gumtree (50+ sales). BUT a common sense approach will minimise risk.

    When I've sold stuff from a HOUSE - Will only provide address when they call/text me that they are on their way. This reduces the number of people you provide the address to that generally don't show up. From my experience 80% just don't show up despite telling you they will on x day or hour. I politely say to them that, YES I will be home BUT text me 30mins BEFORE you leave to a)Confirm b)Get my address. ALSO I always have the item OUTSIDE and never let anyone inside my house. You can always get an extension cord etc for testing purposes if needed.

    When selling from an apt - As above and I don't provide unit number. I just meet them downstairs.

    This isn't paranoid - Just common sense approach that's not stressful for either party.

    • -1

      I'm confused mate. Don't provide them a unit number ? Say u live in a block of 10. They could rob all of them! What makes urs special ?

      • Lol who said aanything aabout robbing. I meet them on the street and tthat's it.

        • That's what I'm wondering

          Why the natural fear that coz they know where u live they will target ur house or unit. They could elect to rob any one of the millions of houses……

          It's an Irrational fear that dosnt make sense. Ur just another random person to them same as ur neighbours

        • @T1OOO:

          No irrationalfear of aanything. It's called risk mitigation Lots of sales on gumtree and never had any iissues. There's no need to provide uunnecessary additional iinformation to strangers when selling ssomething as is.

  • Australia is a very safe country. You are worrying to much i guess, thieves will broke into your house and will not ask for permission.

  • As most people have already said:
    - put the appliance outside your house just before, so they don't have to come in. Or put it in your garage in case it rains.
    - don't be home by yourself, have other people with you
    - don't provide your exact address until the day or a few hours before
    - do it during daytime if you can

    If you're very worried, you can also note down/photograph the person's rego for their car when they arrive. You also have their number, so you can always report to police if something happens later.

  • Fake cash lol, if you had fake cash why the f would you buy a secondhand one on gumtree? This has to be a piss take

  • +1

    Daylight robbery

    Meaning; Blatant and unfair overcharging.

    This isn't used to describe actual robberies - whatever time of day they might take place. It is a figurative phrase that associates an instance of unfair trading with actual robbery. Not just any old robbery, but one so unashamed and obvious that it is committed in broad daylight.

  • I know an absolute horror story that's actually very common, but I don't want to freak the OP out; I get goosebumps just thinking about it. Chances are all will end well for you, but you never know, you just may be one of the 47% who are just not as lucky…

    Just remember, these "people" will know where you live; make sure there is absolutely nothing wrong with the dishwasher, and I mean nothing, because some "people" will make something out of nothing and your life will never be the same and you will regret the day you stopped washing dishes by hand, because, well…just take my word for it; it's not worth the angst because you never know how it will end up and the only person who has your best interests in mind is you, so don't worry about what others say…

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