A bit more than a box left.
Also a lot of globes on clearance. 4 pack philips led gu5.3 was on clearance too.
380 lumens
5.5w
2700k warm white
Not dimmable
Not suitable for use with atco tridonic possum and viper transformers
Philips MR16 5.5w LED down Light $2.8 Was $9.9 at Woolworths Box Hill VIC
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Why don't they work? Or will they only work if you run, say 4 Leds off the same transformer?
Electronic transformers, which pretty much they all are these days, have a "minimum" power output, and might not work/perform poorly under that amount.
Iron core transformers had no such problem, but are almost impossible to source any more.
Yes if you attached 4 to the 1 transformer, it will work perfectly fine, as long as you are within the minimum and maximum output of the transformer. Probably wouldn't try it with dimming bulbs though, minimum would go under.
just be careful. I had to remove all of mine due to the pathetic 60 degree beam.
Anything other than 120 degrees is useless with LEDs
Anything other than 120 degrees is useless with LEDs
Do you have any idea how utterly absurd your comment is?
Do you know anything about spacing of lights?
I spent 2 years testing LEDs and the only ones that you can use to replace 60 degree halogen is 120 degree LED. This is because the 60 degree actually floods light so walls would still light up. If you replace a 60 degree halogen with 60 degree LED your walls (and room) will be very dark.
Yes @Maverick-au if you start fresh you can use lower angle bean and add more lights but then you add more cost in energy too.
I spent 2 years testing LEDs and the only ones that you can use to replace 60 degree halogen is 120 degree LED. This is because the 60 degree actually floods light so walls would still light up. If you replace a 60 degree halogen with 60 degree LED your walls (and room) will be very dark.
You don't know the spacing nor any other details to be able to say that so it's utterly pointless and misleading to do so. 60 degree LEDs are fine to replace 60 degree halogens in most cases.
"120 Degree beam" means ZERO glare control.
Glare causes the effect of constricting the pupil of the eye, which makes everything look darker.
So, in lighting terms, 120 degrees is a very poor choice.
just be careful. I had to remove all of mine due to the pathetic 60 degree beam.
What is wrong with a 60 degree beam?
really depends on the height of your ceiling and the existing spacing of each. Most don't have the luxury of re-spacing lights just so to suit these particular leds.
As for my current situation the beam throw is evident. Giving a 1m circumference spotlight to the floor tiles, then a shaded 1m dark area till the next 1m circumference spotlight that these leds are giving effect. The lights are spaced out at 2m apart on the ceiling. Not really the suitable LED lights for this hallway.
I overlooked at the 60 degree throw and purchased due to the sale.
So what I am saying is, don't just buy cos its cheap but consider the spot you are going to use these for.
As for my current situation the beam throw is evident. Giving a 1m circumference spotlight to the floor tiles, then a shaded 1m dark area till the next 1m circumference spotlight that these leds are giving effect. The lights are spaced out at 2m apart on the ceiling. Not really the suitable LED lights for this hallway.
I overlooked at the 60 degree throw and purchased due to the sale.
What does 60 degrees have to do with your problem? Unless your ceiling is in a dog kennel I cannot see how 60 degree lamps can have a 1m illuminated area. 24 degree lamps would throw a 1m illuminated area with a 2.5m ceiling.
I have 60 degree LEDs that are spaced around 1.7m to 2.0m apart and have no problems with the lighting or the coverage.
ok thats interesting. So what do you think is wrong here.. Lumens?
ceiling is 2.4m high.
I have 9 of these philips LEDs removed.
I am very open to be corrected. sorry for my ignorance based on this current experience.
I borrowed one of my mates one which works well but its the diffuser type and cost $16 a pop.
@im:
ok thats interesting. So what do you think is wrong here.. Lumens?
Hard to say, we have dark floors so it's harder to see but the illumination from each lamp just blends into each other area. It's not unusual depending on the lens etc to have half the lumens at the extremities but you don't really notice it.
Maybe your gimble fitting is blocking part of the light and this would explain the sharp cutoff?
These examples aren't the best but look at the spread of the 38 and 60 degree lamps - http://www.theledlight.com/about-led-light-bulbs.html
ARRRRHH! U guys are onto something.
I was given an old batch box!!! Just took out one box and these have 24D instead of showing the beam angle on a picture. The ones that I saw at woolies had the 60 degrees picture with a purplish box.
Person took these out of the back and gave it to me.. the box is white (not purple) but I assumed it was the same as the guy said it was the same.
That explains the narrow spotlight 24 degree beam throw!
@im:
That explains the narrow spotlight 24 degree beam throw!
Glad you have it sorted, 24 degree are pretty limited in application so why they stocked them makes no sense! To me places like supermarkets should stock 60 degree. It would also explain the bright light in a small area and dark beyond that.
I had to remove all of mine due to the pathetic 60 degree beam
Since these are:
A) an MR16 Halogen Replacement lamp
B) The 60 Degree (half peak) was the most popular in Halogen
I would suggest that 60 degree is the most suitable replacement / retrofit.
What you are probably complaining about is the Light Output. Considering that 380 Lumens is less than HALF the output of a 50W MR16 Halogen, that's my guess.
I can confirm STACKS of globes are on special (half price or better) at WW Northland, in VIC. Including halogens and LEDS, dimables, downlights etc.
If you go to Northland (VIC) seeking these, be sure to check both the usual location/aisle, AND the 'mark-down trolley' that lives next to the baked bread section. Both areas contain a somewhat random assortment of the marked-down globes.
Note that the 380 Lumen Philips MR16s are really old stock. There is a 400 Lumen model now.
Also note that this is about 1/2 what a 50W 12V MR16 halogen used to put out, however due to the way that the human eye works, you won't see the ~50% drop in light levels.
Any evidence of this price in interstate stores? I couldn't find it on their website.
would be store specific clearance only.
Packs are marked 415Lumen.
I tried these with ATCO Possums and they seemed 👌
hahah. lol. i skimmed and misread your comment. I thought it said u tried it on a particular Possum and they screamed.
Correction. My inaccuracies about 60 degree comments. Scrap that..
the batch that was given to me at woolies were old model & turns out to be 24 degree beam! hence the light throw was spotlighty..
must return these.
So I should really say.. Careful you don't get the 24D lights.
I checked last evening a few Woolies in North ACT.
For MR16/GU5.3 Phillips on special:
Gungahlin ACT, only had 24D for 2.5$ each
Franklin ACT, out of stock (because I took the 8 they had :)
Bonner ACT, store special on the new 5W /380lms 60D 5$ each.
Belconnen ACT, only the new 5W /380Lms 60D 10$ each or 4pck for 34$
Dickson ACT, out of stock.Would apprecite if anyone can share the availability in ACT.
I need 20 more for the whole house :)
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