So I have just purchased an apartment previously rented @ 530p/w. My plan is to move into this with my partner on a part-time basis. Financially I earn around double her after tax (approx 55k). What would be a fair amount for her to pay living there at 4/7 days a week? Is anyone currently in this situation?
Thanks
Child, please. I'm afraid what I saw now will be patronising, but as you are implying that women will attempt to steal your assets because they have periods, well, I think that is par for the course.
In this world there are good men and women who actively support each other and don't screw each other over, and there are low lifes who are in it for themselves. It usually happens that the good people end up together, and the low lifes have a series of unhappy and unsatisfying relationships together.
So the trick in life is to end up with a good person and avoid the low lifes. One way that really helps better your odds is to not be a low life yourself. This might be relevant to you because your writing has a strong sense of disgust of women about it. If you don't want to end up being one of those old guys sitting in pubs muttering obscene things about the women who walk in, change the way you think now. There are definitely really top women out there who will love and support their man - go find one of them because there is nothing better than living a life together with a woman like that.
Since it's your gf, I would not push her to pay any of the utility bills or groceries or part of rent, but if she insists you know you got a keeper :)
Before you do anything, get legal advice and act upon it. If the advice is to get a contract, that is recognizes by the courts, outlining each persons commitment in the relationship and what would happen in the event of the relationship ending, then get one raised and signed by each party.
When you enter a relationship, marriage immediately, De facto after a period of time, you are entering into a legal contract. In law there is no such thing as emotions, just money, and it could cost you dear IF a relationship breaks down because you can be sure that the other party will try to get as much money from you as they can.
Doesn't work that way.
Much more complicated than you lose half of everything. It depends on what both parties brought into the relationship and if one party was dependant on the other
See this for how complicated it gets
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/woman-loses-bid-for-exhusb…
oh and after waiting for up to 3 years for a trial date with the federal circuit while the lawyers bleed you dry, not to mention the emotional stress of it all, NO THANKS.
Judging from your username, an obvious YES
You can decide this by calculating the Rental Put-Out ratio. If Output/day > 1, half rent.
That's… prostitution.
Do not, under any circumstances let her live with you. The occasions sleep over is fine but that's it. Do not let her have her mailing address changes to yours. All she has to prove that you're in a defacto relationship and she will get half you stuff. Federal and Family Court trial dates are about 3 years from application. Dont believe me???? Wait until it happens to you. And before you say, 'she is different', 'she wont do that to me', wait and see. Its happened to alot of men in your situation. Im speaking from experience.
Also, picture this, you guys living together all happy then one day you get a knock on the door from the police with reported domestic violence allegations. You WILL be kicked out of YOUR own house and she will be living there all to herself. An AVO will be issued preventing you from living in your OWN house. Thats Australian Family Law and I cant make this stuff up and happens in Australia more than you think. Still dont believe me?? Nobody does until they go through it.
The juice aint worth the squeeze.
Mate quite simply:
If she's
8/10 - No Rent
7/10 or below - Rent
There are way too many people here trying to get out of losing something like 50% to your girlfriend if you break up.
This is impossible.
If you live together for a period of time she will be entitled to something.
Don't waste your time trying to reduce what she might be entitled to, its always going to be too much.
If you are at the point of moving in then you are at the point in your life where you decide if you trust her or you want to end it with her.
I repeat, there is no tactic to stop her from getting part of your assets, she can live there rent free, bill free, and still get it.
The solution is to find someone you trust and ask her to pay 50% and assume she will get it.
If it's YOU who bought the apartment, wither rent or bills,,,but can't be Xmas all the time!
She should be looking after you. It's what they crave.
If you treat her too well she will prolly leave you anyway.
Don't be a (profanity).
Wow, what a thread.
Interesting read nonetheless.
Everything in cash, just food related bills mainly, don't share the same address (she can get a P.O box if need be, or use a relative's address), binding financial agreement down the line. New alterations to agreement need to be made post marriage or children (bit more difficult).
It's a good sign that you're thinking, as you made this post.
You're too young to really know anything about relationships. Tread carefully without being an (profanity), basically. The right woman will understand this whole conundrum.
binding financial agreement down the line.
Love contract. Chappelle show style.
She's your girlfriend, not a tenant or a roommate. You should consider what it costs you, and saves her, to have her over a few nights a week.
If she's living at her parents, presumably her "rent" won't be reduced if she is at your place some nights a week.
And I guess she's not taking up space in your apartment that you'd otherwise be able to rent out.
So presumably your only extra costs for having her over are extra food and maybe a little extra power and water. So the suggestions along the lines of helping out with groceries is about right. If she's sensible, she'll buy groceries for you, and you won't even need to raise the matter.
Imagine you were renting it with her; how would you split it then?
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Live in your place long enough for it to be your residence for taxation purposes. Then claim your situation has changed and rent the place out for up to 6 years. Enjoy any and all tax benefits during this period. Move back in or sell within the 6 year period and avoid CGT event. Problem solvered.
I would offer to pay it all myself (I presume you have a mortgage?), but she will very likely refuse, so let her pay half. Don't bring it up yourself and force her to pay half. She will likely insist on it herself.
These days if you pay for women (e.g. dinner on dates, the bills, the rent) they will feel insulted because this kind of chivalry is very old fashioned and it's saying she's not capable of paying her own share. Don't insult them. They don't want your chivalry. Things are different now after the women's empowerment movement. Back then the man was the breadwinner and the woman stayed home to look after the kids. Now they're equals in the workforce.
Just as long as you don't out front go, "you're paying half of it". It shouldn't be difficult to arrange.
If she spends a few nights there a week, maybe make it 25% or something. You don't actually have to say anything. Don't tell her you're charging her for staying in a place you own. She will naturally bring it up. You can resist if you want, but eventually she won't feel comfortable freeloading off you.
Be a man. If I am you, I will not ask my girlfriend to pay rent when I actually own the property.
Well technically she owns half the property in 6+ months…
Spot on.
My opinion she only need to share 50% of Gas & Electric bills. Also 50% of weekly foods.
If you love her & will marry her.
You realise you're speaking about the partner who makes decision based on emotions as opposed to logic, right? And who's emotions are extremely tainted by their CURRENT hormones; which hormones change daily and at least one week out of four are COMPLETELY out of wack.
No offence to the partner, it's just a fact of life.