Powered USB Hubs

Hey OZB, I have recently, for the first time in my life, have the need for a Powered USB Hub and I have realized stupidly how little I actually know about these things.. I'm after the type that uses wall-power for the devices but leaves the upstream bandwidth for the computer to interface with. I have just ordered a laptop with only 2 USB ports but I need to connect quite a few (audio/midi) controllers and my keyboard/mouse as I will be using the setup for creating/editing/mixing audio.

Most of the deals I find with a search here (for information) are the powered hubs for charging - but they lack the computer host interface to be used to expand USB slots on a computer or laptop. (I assume high power drain really shouldn't be an issue for me as anything with big power draw already has its own external power source)

So, in fear of me falling into one of my walls of text I will get straight to the meat of my inquiry..

.. What should I be looking for in a powered hub? Possibly something in the 20% off sale? Ideally I need 5 ports or higher.

As always, thankyou for your time!

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  • +2

    Basically, you are just looking for a data hub of the type you need (USB2, USB3) for your equipment. All the data lines will be connected and passed through the hub to connect to the host computer. The data speed/bandwidth should not be affected at all unless the current draw is stupidly large, in which case the electronics aren't functioning properly due to power starvation. In each USB socket, there are also pins for power, which is drawn from the host device as well. This current is limited — 0.5A for USB2, more for USB3. You need to be mindful if for example you have say a 7 port hub, each supplying maximum current to high drain devices, you would need a LOT of power supplied from the host, which it can't supply from a single port. Too many of these devices and the available power can dip enough to prevent the devices operating correctly. A powered hub relies on an external plugpack to help out and supply the majority of the voltage/current to drive these high drain devices. If the use you put the port to is low drain, you don't really need to boost the power. A mouse or USB flash drive typically doesn't draw much. A lot of external USB hard disks need a lot of power to spin the drive, often more than the port can supply. They often come with an extra USB "power-only" plug on the cable to draw a bit more power from a second port. A powered hub can be identified by a small DC socket (a small hole) on the case where you connect a plugpack. This is different to a USB charger where you just plug your phone in to recharge (or multiple devices). These don't carry data and don't plug into a host computer, they just supply power on the power pins. Plugging in just 5 keyboards/mice and midi controllers should all be low drain devices and should be able to be powered comfortably by the host device without needing a powered hub. When you start getting up to dozens of attached devices, there might be a need.

    • I haven't used midi devices for a while but from what I remember they are quite simple low power devices, so YMMV depending on what controllers you are using.
  • +1

    Benson Leung posts on Google+ about USB-C cables, hubs and power supplies and since they are supposed to support previous USB standards he covers them inter alia.

    He describes how even some brand name products fail to follow USB-C standards and there are photos of the consequences, ie smoke and fire.

    https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung

    While on the subject of smoke and fire, a few days ago an original install power point in my mother's 45 year old house started to sizzle and give off smoke. The power socket is behind a cabinet and had never been used until my mother got a microwave about 15 years ago.

    Despite only having a single power cable plugged into it that was never removed and a power switch that was never used it decided to self destruct.

    The 2 year old microwave continues to function normally so I don't think it caused the problem.

    When the power point was replaced it was impossible to say what caused the fault because it was so badly burnt/melted.

    Another smoke and fire (and water) story.

    My sister and her partner live in an 1851 Grade 2 Listed Property next to Portobello Rd in Kensington in London. They have been living elsewhere for 12 months while the property was renovated. They only moved back in a week ago.

    Because the property is listed they had to install a sprinkler system. The day after they moved in a sprinkler on the top (2nd) floor activated and water damaged everything on that floor.

    Because the property has a very narrow wooden staircase they had to install an external fire escape into the back garden. The day after the sprinkler activated it rained heavily. The concrete footing for the fire escape had been cast over the drain inlet. The ground floor was flooded.

    Yesterday the gas heater in the newly constructed back garden BBQ/decking/pergola/seating caught fire and burnt everything.

    The fire brigade had to attend. When they dragged the fire hose through the front door and 1st floor a join in the hose leaked inside the house and flooded the 1st and ground floors.

    The insurance company, lawyers and, I suspect, new building company are going to be very busy.

  • +1

    Since you are using presumably expensive audio equipment I'd suggest something like the ANKER 10 Port USB hub. Anker is one of the best tech accessory companies around. It's available from Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VDVCQ84/

    One thing you might want to verify is the power pack is 100-240v but I'm sure it would be

    • Thanks very much, I'm definitely going with sabrent or anker now that they've been suggested enough here. I'm willing to spend what it costs but in the spirit of OZB, a deal is always nice heh.

      Will check out the link and setup notification tags here for the above brands.

  • +1

    The comments given by above pretty much explain what to look for a good USB hub, I don't have any more to add. I'd just found a hub that'll suite your need

    Orico (H7013-U3-SV) 7-Port Aluminium USB3.0 Hub (With Power Adapter) $29

    • USB 3.0
    • 7 ports
    • Comes with power adapter
    • +1

      That is such an excellent price I'm suspicious of quality NOTE I DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE TO BASE THIS ON. I've had very mixed experiences with USB 3.0 hubs…powered/unpowered and name brand/cheapie. It's a real pity your device is so poor in ports. From what I've read I'd definitely get a name brand powered hub as you'll have a number of devices for critical work…maybe 2 hubs, one for each port and share the most date intensive devices between them to avoid bottlenecks at the port itself???

    • This is exactly what I need but due to others brand suggestions, I think I'm going to stick to finding a good anker or sabrent one, due to the value of the equipment that will be plugged in.

      Thanks!

    • The thing to remember is that to power all 7 ports you will need way more than 5V 2A power supply included with this hub (0.9A x 7 * 5V = 31.5W ), so for that many ports you need at least 12V 36W power supply. And the worst part is that hubs with 12V external power do not work at all without it.

      Also there's no chip on the market that supports more than 4 USB3 ports so 7-port hub means it's just two daisy chained 4-port hubs and so on.

  • Just got home, reading through comments now, will reply where needed. I must give another huge thankyou though, people took some serious time to answer this 'properly'.
    I couldn't have asked for more or done it better myself!

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