What's More Important to You? The Pay or The Family Oriented Group of People You Work with?

what's more important to you? the Pay or the Family oriented group of people you work with?

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  • +3

    It would depend on the pay difference. Working with great people is really important for job satisfaction, however financial compensation is the reason most of us work. If it's a small pay difference, most people would probably stay where they were in a happy group. However - if you factor in the opportunity for greater advancement, promotion or long-term benefit, then more people would move into a team they didn't like - because the longer term benefits were higher.

    It's a tough decision, I loved the team I worked with in retail but to secure my financial future I just had to move on and grow.

  • +1

    Studies show that once you hit a certain threshold your life satisfaction and happiness do not continue to increase as your wage increases. But it's going to depend on your situation and the role..
    I moved from a business where my colleagues were great mates to a higher paying role elsewhere…so the trade off of going to work and loving the environment with mates, for more pay and more responsibilities

    Edit: fwiw that threshold from memory was around 80-90k

  • The pay…. 100% the pay.

    I would be the person who tells people they have cancer, owe 100k and then have to clean the shit in which they did bricks for the right price.

    • +1

      Extraordinary!
      I think the "above a certain level, it makes little difference" is pretty true (assuming you aren't leveraged to the hilt).

      I would take people over pay almost every time. I also very highly value job autonomy, holiday leave and flexible hours.I spend too many hours working to make it dreary.
      I would swap a job doing horrible things one day a week for a job doing nice things 5 days a week, however!

  • when you are young and single - the pay
    as you get older and start a family - the latter

  • To me money is the most important thing.

    I can switch off most things.

    Boring work, @ssholes / lazy colleagues / crazy colleagues / unintelligent colleagues at work, demanding bosses, working OT, HR dept / OH&S people.

    I can block all that out if the money is good enough.

    Only if the environment was so toxic that I wanted to bring a gun to work daily would I consider money less important.

    • so a 1 hour commute to earn 101k, is more important than a 60 second commute for 100k, even if tansport was free?

    • I've worked in a toxic place where someone else wants to bring a gun to work.

      If I was asked this question when I was younger, I would pick the money. But now, my brain would flip if I had a crazy job for too long.

  • +2

    i get paid 20% less than i did 5 years ago

    but the below things make up for that

    1.) wake up and start when ever i want, if i wanna start at 6am i will, if i have a bender and wake up at 2pm, ill do a half day and make up later
    2.) have good colleagues
    3.) wear bin tang singlets and thongs to work
    4.) work from home if want to

    • +7

      Is your job waiting in the Centrelink queue by any chance?

      • …but centrelink doesn't open till 8am….

        • Gotta leave home early so you can hit on some birds at the local 24 hour TAB first.

        • well if you want that first appointment, you probably need to start queuing out the front at 6am or you might be there the entire day…

      • no going to centerlink would way to hard

  • +1

    Beware of "family-oriented" claims. A friend of mine (a recent law grad) went for an interview at a small practice. The interviewer said that they "work together like a family" which implies they are expecting no-pay overtime on weekends.

    • On a similar note, during the interview, the guy on the other side said "We all have family and appreciate a good life work balance", which I agreed whole heartily. Didn't get the job. Correct reaction would have been "Yes, if the work is done"

    • What non-shift jobs get paid overtime on weekends or out of hours??

      • +1

        I work with some 9-5 people on wages with O/T.. But they're all on low pay.

        • Interesting. Taking in time in lieu fairly common but hadn't worked with any paid OT. Good to know, cheers

  • A balance of the two, I need and want money so would always like to be paid more. I don't care too much about the people I work with as I don't socialise with them, as long as they are not arseholes that's fine with me.

  • Strange that nobody brought the Wife into play: If wife is happy being home, looking after the kids, cooking and washing, and pleasing the husband when he comes home, I would say that working with assholes in a shit place, but being paid well is an acceptable compromise.
    My wife works too, and unfortunately people around me are, not so nice, and work is paid SIHT ! For some reasons the boss does not like me, and there is NO chance for me to get ahead in salary or $$$. Why do I stay there? I might have to visit a shrink !

  • I go to work to earn money to support my family. i'm also fortunate that my current company has a decent environment with good co-workers (for the most part). I have previously worked in an extremely toxic work place environment where I nearly lost my sanity.

    • +3

      Nothing like working in a shit place to make you appreciate a good job all the more better lol

  • In my lifetime I have come accross high paid jobs with great Employers, average paid jobs with great Employers. But the majority have been with average to poor Employers. You need the balance, if the Employer is paying you correctly including your Super entitlement and you are not required to do more than 5 hours per week unpaid overtime, and you have at least some rappour with most of your working piers, then not getting the highest pay should not be an excuse to change jobs. Otherwise……

  • The answer is very simple. For a shit workplace, you ask yourself how much do you spend to spend after the day is done to forget it? Not just in monetary terms but in time too. If the first thing you do when you get home is plant yourself infront of the tv for 2 hours to 'zone out', then thats at least $50 worth of time you're spending. If you could find a job that pays $100 less a week, but makes you happier to work there, that would be the right decision.

    I know there's a bunch of people that say 'All that stuff is hippy garbage, I'm all about the money, I can take anything' but think about this: Pornstars and prostitutes make heaps*, but its soul destroying work so they spend almost all of it on drugs to make themselves feel better. Thats at the end of the spectrum but you get the idea.

    *was going to say loads but thought that might sticky up the message

  • +1

    It depends if you have discovered what life is really all about.
    The unexpected death of someone close; serious news from the doctor, your kids being in trouble or failing in life.
    Suddenly money become much less important.
    You might think that you can put up with all that stuff, but it will catch up with you and you can't turn back the clock.

  • Pay.

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