Having a Dog without Landlord's Consent? Yes or No?

aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 15:46
Last edited 18/11/2017 - 15:24 by 1 other user

Jun 2017: my wife and I inspected a 2 bedroom apartment in a big complex in Brisbane where we noticed the tenants having pets. during the inspection process, we asked the property manager about getting a dog and she advised that if we were to get a pet, we can and we have to pay a pet bond and make sure we clean the apartment when we move out. The ad said PET FRIENDLY.

Jul 2017: We signed the lease, but we missed the fact that the lease had NO to the option of PETS APPROVED.

Sep 2017: My wife and I decided on a pup, did our research and found a breed that was small and didnt shed but also one we both loved. Havent bought him yet, due in late dec.

Nov 2017: I emailed the property manager asking her how much the bond would be and how we go about updating the agreement. She said that she needs to talk to the owners and doesnt recall having a conversation about a dog in Jun. She just rang us and said that the owners said NO. I tried to understand what their concerns were so that I could address them. I even advised her that I am happy to put down $3000 as a pet bond for the peace of mind of the owners. I also assured her that we were already looking at puppy schools and training and I work from home and would be able to manage the pet.

We have been good tenants and they have been happy overall with us and how we manage the property and we love this apartment and we had already informed the property manager a while ago that we are thinking about resigning the lease when it was due to expire. The apartment also has a big open balcony which could give the dog the time it needs outside and we can leave him outside when we arent home.

I want to be reasonable and hear out the landlord's concerns and address them, but my property manager has advised that we cant contact them directly due to privacy issues.

Do we have any other options than the 2 below?

UPDATE 1: We have taken some of the feedback into consideration and written a letter addressing some of the concerns that the owners might have and what we are willing to do this morning. The Property Manager is happy with our approach and said she will follow this up. She even has advised that she will look at the leases of other tenants in the floor and see if anyone will be willing to swap apartments with us (if they are pet approved and they dont have a pet)

UPDATE 2: We just got a call from the Property Manager that the owners have read our letter and agreed to let us have a puppy in the apartment. Thank you everyone for your valuable feedback. We feel so much relieved to get this news. :)

Poll Options

  • 18
    Get the dog and not inform the landlord and deal with it (hopefully not get evicted)
  • 72
    Break the lease and move (8 months left)
Pets

Comments

  • robbyjones on 16/11/2017 - 15:52
    +11

    Do neither of your options. Dealing through an agent if the lease says no pets they may not even contact the owner. Put your request in writing stating everything you have put in your post and ask for a written response from the owner. I have a unit and I have no pets put on my leases but if I was approached with the conditions you have put down I would probably change my mind, a lot of renters are not responsible people their mindset being the property isn't theirs.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 15:56
      +1

      Thanks for that. I will contact the property manager and see if she could forward my email to them or if I can write them directly.

      I know there are a lot of property owners here on OZB and I read about the horror stories about the tenants messing up the rental properties. I have been renting for 9 years and always have paid my rent on time and have my bond amount returned in full everytime I have vacated. But I certainly do understand the concerns the landlord might have when it comes to pets.

    • GG57 on 16/11/2017 - 16:03
      +3

      I agree; formally submit to the agent and seek a formal response. A couple of other things to consider:
      1. The other tenants in the complex may not be happy with pets, particularly if there is barking or other anti-social behaviours by the dog (until trained). As tenants come and go, there may have been a change since the previous occupants?, or maybe they had issues with other tenants and that is why they left?
      2. Try to keep the matter of having a pet out of any other discussions with the agent re potentially breaking the lease. The lease has the 'no pets' content, so you don't have any bargaining power on that matter.

      Pity you are in Brisbane; Victoria has/is legislating to allow tenants to have pets without discrimination.

      • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:06

        I agree with the contract I have with them and it doesnt give me any bargaining power, but I dont want to sound like I am threatening to leave because they have said NO.

        I hear about your statement about Victoria, too bad… we just moved to Brisbane from Melbourne.

      • HighAndDry on 16/11/2017 - 16:13
        +3

        Pity you are in Brisbane; Victoria has/is legislating to allow tenants to have pets without discrimination.

        This isn't a matter of discrimination. Their house, their rules. Not to mention that Strata often have rules regarding pets too that landlords have to follow too.

        • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:17
          +1

          I dont see it as discrimination. And I agree, their house, their rules. But the ad said PET FRIENDLY and we had a discussion with the property manager.

          The Strata allows pets, in my floor, there are 4 apartments with little dogs.

          If I am willing to cover the risk , I just want to know how to best reach out to them and make them feel okay with it.

        • HighAndDry on 16/11/2017 - 16:37

          @aspirepranesh: Oh, no I think you're being perfectly reasonable. Was really only replying to the part of the other person's comment that I quoted.

          As a general rule though, I dislike people like you on principle, because the whole point of a contract is to have certainty beforehand.

        • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:40
          +2

          @0blivion: I understand your point on the principle of things. I dont want to go to the owner and threaten them that I want to leave or have an argument with the property manager for lying to us. We still love the place and we still want to live here, but due to some miscommunication/misunderstanding, this is where we are. And I am taking ownership and saying I will put down $3000 or more for my mistake to give the landlord the peace of mind. I dont expect anything for free, which is why I am stating the facts

        • GG57 on 16/11/2017 - 16:52
          +2

          I agree - not discrimination, but that is how it has been publicised / sold by the Vic Government

        • HighAndDry on 16/11/2017 - 16:52
          +2

          @aspirepranesh: Yup. Again, given it's come to this, I honestly think you're being very reasonable and certainly not doing anything wrong. Good luck and hopefully things work out.

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 16:33
      +3

      @robbyjones: Hey mate, appreciate the feedback. My wife and I wrote a heartfelt letter to the owners and they have agreed to let us have a puppy. We are so happy about it and glad that it worked out.

      Thanks again.

  • altomic on 16/11/2017 - 15:57
    +4

    OP- can I borrow your car? is is ok If I smoke in it? "no" - you say. well, i'm going to any way.

    my parents were former landlords to a house where renters have had dogs on a "no dog" lease

    • people that have dogs when they are told not to have dogs are the worst.

    the last tenant in the house had 2 dogs. he cut a whole in the back door so the dogs could walk in and out. the dogs shat in the house (carpet) the back yard was a mess. the client did give a f&^k about the house and left it in an unlivable state. plaster knocked off walls, doors taken off hinges, carpets filty, blinds destroyed, etc ,etc

    the real estate agent - was F@%king useless. didn't inspect the property prior to the clients leaving and then returned their bond.

    as the house was an old 1930s weather board (though it had been renovated 5 years earlier) it wasn't worth repairing.

    my parents just sold it (the land was valuable)

    • Deviner on 16/11/2017 - 16:01
      +6

      I don't think the OP quite fits that criteria somehow… but I know where you're coming from as my brother had a similar, but worse experience renting out a place not so long ago (at least it was only the dogs shitting on the carpets in your parents house!:)).

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:09
      +2

      Mate… I agree with you. thats why I said I am willing to put down $3000 and also informed them that I am happy to sign a contract where I would pay for any other additional damages if there were to be!

    • BigBirdy on 17/11/2017 - 10:37
      +1

      Your issue was the tenant not respecting your property. It wasn’t the dog’s fault.
      The point is, if you are going to be a provider of housing, you should be prepared for tenants to (respectfully) treat the house as their home. It is their home! This should include common ‘accessories’ like children, babies, cats, dogs, pictures on walls, etc., with the obvious proviso of the property being returned in a similar state (normal wear & tear) to when it was first leased. If not, find a different way to invest your money.

      • HighAndDry on 17/11/2017 - 11:35
        +3

        What? No. I think people should be able to expect that people do what they agreed - i.e. no pets if they signed a lease agreement that said no pets. Not too ********* difficult.

  • Deviner on 16/11/2017 - 15:59
    +1

    Yeah, I've asked heaps of times about pets on "No Pets" listings and have been given positive responses more often than not.
    Putting "Pet Friendly" in your advert seems to attract crazy cat ladies with 15 cats etc, so I can see why people don't put it in their ads.

    Small non-shed dogs are what they want to hear … but there's lots of reasons landlords don't want dogs.
    They can chew presses/laminate, skirting boards, carpets… damage the garden.
    There's also people who are super allergic to animals and specifically pick "NO PETS" houses and you would be undermining that.
    There's also the potential for fleas etc on carpets as well.

    You should have asked about, AND signed a pet bond BEFORE buying the dog… so while it seems relatively innocent what you've done, you've broken your lease agreements here and could very easily be given a warning by the real estate agent which would include removing the pet from the house, followed by notice of eviction if you don't comply.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:12

      We havent bought the dog yet, we are in the final stages, a month away from getting him.

      the ad said: Pet friendly when we applied for it. and we talked to the property manager about it before we applied for it. We naturally assumed the PETS APPROVED would be changed to YES if and when we bought a dog.

      We have an covered open balcony with sliding windows which would be a perfect place for the dog when we are out. Our neighbours do that with their pet when no one is home. And with fleas and stuff, we have already looked into organizing cleaning if and when we move out.

      • Deviner on 16/11/2017 - 16:37
        +2

        Ahh right, I thought you'd bought and collected the pup in September.

        Have a look online in cached google results for your rental and find the "PET FRIENDLY" part and take a screenshot and shove it in their face!
        Or another site that seems to store a lot of really old listings is http://www.ksouhouse.com/rent.php.

        Hopefully you get the result you're looking for anyways!

        • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:43

          The breed of Cairn Terrier is very hard to find, it took us months of research and making phone calls and talking to breeders for remotely convincing them to give us a pup. There was a litter late october and the pup would be ready for a new home by the end of December which is perfect for us.

          And thanks for the link, I will check it. Appreciate it.

  • dcep on 16/11/2017 - 16:00
    -2

    doesn't matter if trained or untrained.

    you're in brisbane and the summer storm will thunders your pup into pissing/shitting everywhere.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:03

      Fair comment. We have been reading about it and we thought this is where our big open balcony with sliding windows would help us with the sliding doors where we can leave the dog/pup outside, but we could have a bed outside for one of us to sleep with him when he is stressed out

    • try2bhelpful on 16/11/2017 - 19:14

      It doesn't have to be like that. Do not leave the dog on the balcony, that is the worst thing you can do as it is exposed to the thunder.

      http://www.pethealth.com.au/Page/nine-steps-to-calm-your-dog…

      • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 06:51

        Thank you for that. We have been reading about techniques to calm a new puppy and also making him feel comfortable during g storms. It's going to be a learning curve, but we are up for it.

        • try2bhelpful on 17/11/2017 - 10:42
          +1

          A friend of hours gets his dog to lie in its basket and puts a blanket over it. Seems to calm it down.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:19

          @try2bhelpful: I have read that online. We have been reading about how the pups tend to cry during the first few days of bringing him home, thunderstorms, being left alone, barking and also about how to make a dog pen where he feels comfortable in his little space when he needs to. I can definitely say I have learnt a lot more about dogs than anything else in the last month or so for us to get ready for a puppy. We dont want to be those people who want to get a dog bcoz its fancy, but see him being a part of our family as both my wife and I dont want to have kids

        • try2bhelpful on 17/11/2017 - 11:34

          @aspirepranesh: we have had various kitties for the last 30 years, all of them well loved. The current two are tawny Somalis, great cats with terrific temperaments. The thing to keep in mind is pets are not cheap to upkeep and one day you will have to make a very hard decision. It tears me apart every time but the sheer joy of them is worth the sacrifice and pain.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:45

          @try2bhelpful: the cost factor, I agree. Even before we decided to consider a puppy, we sat down and talked about how much it was gonna cost, how much time we need, can we afford both? and how we go about changing our lives to accommodate him and we will have the same issue if/when we have a kid. Also, both our parents have had dogs :)

  • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2017 - 16:02

    Buy the unit

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:07

      My wife and I have been talking about it for the last few weeks even before we went to the owners about the dog! But I dont think we are there yet.

    • modsec802 on 17/11/2017 - 07:42
      +2

      That’s a good way to blow a lot of cash in Brisbane - count the cranes

  • garetz on 16/11/2017 - 16:04
    -5

    Under the new strata rules, they cannot refuse you to have a pet unless they have a very good reason. You should contact the strata company, and see what the pet clause is, the owner technically has no say in the matter. If the strata by laws allow it, then you are good to go.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:13

      I shall check that. Appreciate your input.

    • HighAndDry on 16/11/2017 - 16:15
      +1

      Under the new strata rules

      Hahaha what do strata rules have to do with this? No strata rule says that a landlord HAS TO allow pets.

      • Deviner on 16/11/2017 - 16:38
        +1

        In fact, it's usually the exact opposite.
        I've heard of strata complexes that have a "NO PET" policy for the entire complex if the majority of owners voted that way.

    • resubaehtgnolhcs on 16/11/2017 - 18:36

      The new strata laws do not have to be accepted, schemes can run under their existing strata by-laws and not update to the new ones.

  • Randxyz123 on 16/11/2017 - 16:06
    +6

    Dig up the original ad in google archives and take a screenshot of it saying pet friendly. Then send the request in writing .

    But really this is on you. You were interested in getting a dog at the start of the lease, and you didn’t read that part of the contract

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:08

      I have tried locating it, but I cannot find it under google archives. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

      Like I mentioned earlier in my reply, it certainly is on me. I dont want to blame anyone else, but I am just trying to see what could be done in a reasonable way to get this sorted.

      • Deviner on 16/11/2017 - 16:39

        Exactly what I was thinking and wrote just above.
        As I mentioned in my other reply, try http://www.ksouhouse.com/rent.php - I've no idea why, but it always seems to have old listings (despite it being Chinese) and has helped me out on a few occasions before with situations like this.

      • Mrbean007 on 16/11/2017 - 16:44
        +1

        Just wait it out till your lease expires then get a pup for the new one thing though how would the pup cope in the unit i felt sorry for my dog in the backyard nevermind a unit.A dog needs to run around now and then unless your going to take it for a walk now and then all good.

        • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:48
          +2

          We certainly dont have plans to lock up the dog in the apartment all day long. The breed of Cairn Terrier is very hard to find, it took us months of research and making phone calls and talking to breeders for remotely convincing them to give us a pup. There was a litter late october and the pup would be ready for a new home by the end of December which is perfect for us.

          I work from home and my wife works ten mins from home and we both want to spend time outdoors with the dog, and we enjoy hiking and camping and personally think the cairn would be a great companion.

        • Randxyz123 on 16/11/2017 - 18:29
          +1

          @aspirepranesh: Cairns are great dogs! Since you kinda have the opportunity though I'd seriously suggest taking it to look for a house with a back yard. It will make your life a hell of a lot easier with toilet training the puppy and make it nicer for the dog. Even if he/she will spend time inside. It's good to be able to have a house with a yard/court yard so the dog can do it's own thing.

          Talk to the agent ASAP and get a new place.

          You might be able to get into one mid dec to be all ready for your new addition

  • try2bhelpful on 16/11/2017 - 16:38

    Have you tbought about a cat, rather than a dog. Some breeds of cats are very people centric and the landlord, and neighbours, might have less of an issue with them. They tend to be cleaner, you don't have to walk them, they usually aren't noisy (unless you get a Siamese) and they usually cause less damage to a house.

    I agree with the others, put the request in writing and get the agent to pass this on. YOu will need to do a full report before taking the animal in, including pictures, and make sure you do fix up any issues that the dog causes. One of the big issues might be if the dog is lonely when you aren't home and starts to howl.

    I wish you luck. We rented for a while when we were younger and we were lucky enough to be able to have our (profanity) cats. They do put a smile on your face after a long difficult day.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 16:49

      I have never been a cat person even though my wife and I took care of our neighbour's car in Melbourne (more the wife taking care of the cat). But thank you though.

      • try2bhelpful on 16/11/2017 - 17:12
        +1

        We never had any issues when renting; we even had several agents commend us on how clean the place was. Tell them you are willing to pay for a professional cleaner, (including steam cleaning any carpets), at the end of the lease to sweeten the deal. If I was renting out a property I wouldn't have problems with someone having a pet, provided I could check up on the at mutually accepted intervals to see how the place is travelling. People don't have to have animals to be complete pricks, they can cause damage all on their own.

        Best of Luck with getting the owner to accept your pet :)

        • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 17:27

          Amen to "people dont have to have animals to be complete pricks, they can cause the damage all on their own" and thank you again :)

  • dollarmenu on 16/11/2017 - 17:39

    I have had a cat and dog in a non pet friendly apartment in Bris. The biggest inconvenience was inspections and also repair dates. When given notice for these dates i usually took a day of work to move all the pet related stuff and clean up. Also have to drive the pets around for the duration.

    In your case, offer to pay additional rent, i am currently in a pet friendly (non advertised) service apartment in the cbd. I offered 30$ extra a week to the owner and they approved. No extra bond, but a pet resume was needed lol.

    • aspirepranesh on 16/11/2017 - 18:17

      Offering more money sounds like a plan. In case of inspections and stuff, we should be okay coz i work from home mostly and can move the dog to the underground car park and leave him in the car for a bit. The pet resume might convince them. Lol

      • try2bhelpful on 16/11/2017 - 19:16
        +1

        the fact you are going to the extra effort will, hopefully, show them you are a responsible owner. I do agree with others that a backyard is a much better option for a dog.

  • railspider on 16/11/2017 - 21:37
    +1

    Brisbane is in the midst of an apartment supply glut with high vacancy rates - if you're as good a tenant as you say, I think most landlords would be willing to make exceptions (ie - accepting the pet bond and allowing the puppy) if it means you'll see out your lease.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/11/2017 - 21:41
      +2

      Rubbish mate, what about those Buggers that put a dog in your house without permission? It's a naughty thing to do

  • mysterytal on 16/11/2017 - 21:50

    If you're being forced to move from a home where pets were allowed, into a new home and urgently need somewhere to live but just happen to have a pet already but can't find anywhere pet friendly, then, yes I would say don't mention the pets so you can secure a roof over your head.

    You already have a secure roof over your head so I would say in this case secure a new property first that allows pets then get the puppy.

  • modsec802 on 17/11/2017 - 07:41
    +1

    DON’T break lease with 8 months remaining whatever you do. There’s an extreme oversupply of rentals in Brisbane and you’ll have to keep paying rent until they put someone else in it - sounds like the landlord is a hassle and they can be as picky as they like even though you’re still paying. Be warned.

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 08:04
      -2

      I gotta agree with you on that. I am aware if the rental market and how easy it is to get an apartment, but hard to fill the empty ones. I'm almost inclined to have the puppy without their permission and just put him in day care during the days of an inspection.

  • smashed on 17/11/2017 - 08:30
    +2

    Did you actually just ask whether you should go against your contract?
    Why don't people have morals?

    Try looking from the other perspective as already discussed.

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 10:01

      At this stage, all we have done is reached out to the property manager to try and put forward our perspective to give them something to consider.

      I have not mentioned anything to them about having a puppy against the contract or threatening to leave.

      I dont understand what issue you have with people's morals if you're referring to mine. I am only seeking a different perspective on things rather than assuming my way is right.

      • smashed on 17/11/2017 - 11:31
        +3

        Your poll option.

        Get the dog and not inform the landlord and deal with it (hopefully not get evicted)

        You are asking clear as day whether you can get away with something that you know you shouldn't do.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:40

          Do we have any other options than the 2 below?

          That was the last statement , which prompts others to give me suggestions outside of those 2!

        • smashed on 17/11/2017 - 11:45

          @aspirepranesh:

          You have a contract.
          Your 2 options are:
          Try to break lease and pay any applicable penalties.
          Move out after lease expires and get a puppy afterwards.

          Either option requires you get the puppy after you move out.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:49

          @smashed: Mate, we are running around in circles.

          Move out and get a puppy afterwards - That's your suggestion.

          Write a letter to the owner explaining our situation - Few people have suggested.

        • smashed on 17/11/2017 - 11:53

          @aspirepranesh:

          I thought the owner had already been asked and declined tho…hence your post.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:58

          @smashed: We informed the property manager via email on wednesday to ask her what the process was to update the contract. She came back yesterday saying the landlords said NO. Some people suggested that we get that in writing because sometimes the property managers dont communicate with the landlords.

          This morning, the wife and I wrote a letter and also talked to the property manager in person and requested her to forward the letter to the landlord. The property manager also advised us that the Wife said Yes, but the Husband said NO.

        • smashed on 17/11/2017 - 12:40

          @aspirepranesh:

          We are not going round in circles..the simple truth is that this thread is overly complicated.

          You want to change your lease so you write and ask them. They respond yes or no.

          Good luck :)

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 12:43

          @smashed: haha… well, the joys of a public forum on the internet :)

          But thanks though. Fingers crossed for now.

  • chichi on 17/11/2017 - 09:17
    +2

    I'm a bit concerned that you plan to leave the dog on the balcony when you aren't home.

    I suggest you wait until your lease is finished and move somewhere that will allow pets - then adopt rather than buying one from a puppy farm.

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 09:58

      I appreciate the concern and it is not ideal leaving the pup in the balcony. Bear in mind, the balcony is the second biggest area after the lounge in our apartment where we grow plants at the moment. and we have been already looking at setting up a home for the pup there with access to the apartment where he can come and go. We want him to be an indoor dog, but the balcony would be a cover only when we arent home during the first few months where we are still training him.

      And my wife was big on adopting a dog, but we cant find a cairn terrier for adoption. If we could, we would. And again,we had decided not to get a pup from the pet shop.

      • chichi on 17/11/2017 - 10:07
        +1

        Your wife had the right idea.

        Where do you think pet shops get their animals from? You are just going direct to the source.

        It doesn't matter how big the balcony is. It is not a good idea to leave any dog (let alone a puppy) on a balcony when you are not home.

        • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 10:18

          Again, I don't mean to dismiss your side of the argument. if you know anything about Cairn terriers and how many breeders are there and how often they breed, you can understand why they are different.

          In the last week, between me and my wife working full time, no one was home for about 5 hours over 7 days apart from the time we both went out together for a hike/market and stuff where we could have taken a dog. I personally don't like to leave the pup alone for too long irrespective of whether it is inside the house or out on the balcony. We both have had dogs in our lives and know how they go through separation anxiety.

  • modsec802 on 17/11/2017 - 10:05
    +4

    You should add another option: "Wait 8 months and sign a new lease at somewhere that allows pets"

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 10:15

      My wife and I have thought about it. We have had some personal issues that I dont wish to discuss on a public forum and we have been really pinning a lot of our hopes for some positive energy through a new pet.

  • garffi on 17/11/2017 - 10:59
    +1

    Maybe try to speak with the landlord directly? That way they can get an idea of who you are and not some irresponsible person who will let the dog shit everywhere. You should be able to get the landlord's number once the property manager gets permission from them.

    • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 11:13

      Apparently they live overseas, but the property manager has been reasonable and understanding as she herself has pets.

      My wife and I have written a detailed personal letter to the landlords and requested the property manager to pass it on to them and hopefully they would reconsider it.

      • garffi on 17/11/2017 - 12:52
        +1

        Well that’s good, at least the property manager is on your side. Good luck!

  • aspirepranesh on 17/11/2017 - 16:35
    +6

    We want to thank everyone for your valuable feedback and wishing us good luck. We wrote a heartfelt letter to the owners and got the property manager to send it to them and they have agreed to let us have the puppy.

    This is one of the reasons why I love OZB!! Thanks guys

    • lizzle on 18/11/2017 - 12:16
      +1

      Yay! Super happy for you guys and the puppy!

  • SPCTRE on 18/11/2017 - 00:14
    +2

    One of the reasons why landlords do not want pets is insurance.
    Some Landlord insurance DO NOT cover pet damage and those that do, cover something like $500 after paying excess which isn't much when you have carpets ripped, piss stains on floorboard resulting them popping up etc.
    OP sounds very reasonable even offering 3k as pet bond.
    And before anyone say "but kids do more damage then pets", people damage is covered by landlord insurance!
    Glad It worked out for you OP you were very civil about it trying to understand from a landlord POV about pets and it paid off 👍

    • aspirepranesh on 18/11/2017 - 09:09

      I understand the intricacies with the insurance, and whether the damage is caused by a pet or a child or an adult, it is upto the tenant to fix it, if it was not a pre existing condition. And I'm really glad that they understood where we were coming from and were considerate enough to give us the chance.

  • airzone on 18/11/2017 - 12:03
    -2

    Wait for your lease to expire, buy a new place, have anything from a pet goldfish to a menagerie. Or maybe read the lease properly if you decide to rent again.

    If the owner says no, and you do it anyway, it speaks volumes about you and your wife's character. Hopefully you will get found out, get a black mark on your tenant record, and be forced to decide between eviction and getting rid of the dog.

    • aspirepranesh on 18/11/2017 - 12:25

      If I wanted to get the dog without the owners permission, I would have done it by now. You seem to be one of those people who would judge someone even before knowing the whole story or even a part of it. Speaks volumes about your attitude when you reply back without even reading the outcome above and what I have discussed with everyone. You must be out there just to make someone miserable around you. I'm no expert in residential legislation & have never owned property, but I'm always interested in learning legal ways of dealing with issues. I've had couple of interesting perspectives and suggestions from people above including some from landlord's who own properties and their suggestion worked for us because we were Reasonable and understand where the landlord's stand. Cheers

  • bargdebarg on 18/11/2017 - 15:20
    +2

    In this thread: puppy love wins!

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