Turned Location Services Off In 2017? Google Tracked Your Location Anyway.

Many people realize that smartphones track their locations. But what if you actively turn off location services, haven’t used any apps, and haven’t even inserted a carrier SIM card?
Even if you take all of those precautions, phones running Android software gather data about your location and send it back to Google when they’re connected to the internet, a Quartz investigation has revealed.
Since the beginning of 2017, Android phones have been collecting the addresses of nearby cellular towers—even when location services are disabled—and sending that data back to Google. The result is that Google, the unit of Alphabet behind Android, has access to data about individuals’ locations and their movements that go far beyond a reasonable consumer expectation of privacy.
Quartz observed the data collection occur and contacted Google, which confirmed the practice.

https://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locatio…

"Very reminiscent of the collection of Wi-Fi network data by Google Street View in 2010. That was blamed on a rogue engineer, even though the system had to be approved by a manager," he writes.

Indeed, Google advanced the theory that it was the work of a lone gunman: one rogue slurper, acting alone. The FCC demolished the theory. Google had intercepted the data "for business purposes", privacy group EPIC concluded.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/22/permissionless_data…

The "mistake" where a "rogue engineer" started collecting the most important data of all to serve advertising happens on ALL Android devices meaning phones, tablets, TVs, set top boxes etc.

Do you think they'll be deleting the data considering they neglected to inform you they were collecting it in the first place?

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  • anonymous ? or tied to google account ?

  • -8

    Oh noes, Google knows I went to the shops, woe is me.

    • +1

      Yeah. Until you realise that as long as the information exists, it can be subpoenaed by government, or just hacked.

      • +1

        Oh noes the Government knows I went to the shops…

        • +4

          The problem isn't that they know you went to the shop. It's that they can establish patterns against your activity that may line up with other people, and they can then determine that you have a connection to that person purely because you have similar patterns even if you've never even met. Now you're on a terrorist watch list because you share a Woolies and a GP with the local bombmaker. It might sound stupid and/or farfetched but I think we should all be concerned that this information is being gathered without our knowledge or consent.

        • +2

          @omgitzrick:
          It's far-fetched here, but that's the reality in Pakistan and Afghanistan. People have been bombed by drones based on mobile phone location data. They are subsequently called enemy combatants.

        • omgitzrick is correct. Information is power. Russia owns the USA purely because of this move.

          Organisations don't need to record your conversations (words). Your meta data (actions) is more valuable. With information, dissent can be quashed - and fake news can be spread to discredit foes.

          This is THE political problem of our generation.

        • @omgitzrick: Google have a terrorist watch list? Those guys really branch out.

          Its bullshit that they have secretly recorded data, but no one in Australia is heading onto a terrorist watch list because they bought ben and jerrys at the same time as a suicide bomber. Keep perspective people!

        • @mooney: If you think the government can't get/won't get/hasn't already got that information you're very naive.

        • @Dozingquinn: i thought china owned the USA?

        • @omgitzrick: which government?? This current shambles?! Im expected to believe they’ve hacked into google to secure data about their private citizens?. Even if they want to, I don’t believe for one second they’ve the capability.

          Anyway. If your logic holds then it’s irrelevent what google do. We all have multiple computers. In cars, mobile phones, TVs, laptops. The ship has sailed. Big brother is watching you.

          Rather than make up stories about being added to a terrosist watch list because you needed toilet paper at the same time as a suicide bomber why don’t you share some actions you’ve taken to ensure you’re not taken in like all us naive fools.

    • Or, someone one called Backspace slowly steals your identity.

      He sees you when you're sleeping
      He knows when you're awake
      He knows if you've been bad or good

      • He can have it, and pay my bills for me ;)

  • I love Google location history. Was so bummed when they closed off their API :(

    Now I run GPS keeper all the time so I have an accurate breadcrumb trail of my entire travels. Not as accurate as the old Latitude using the API to update, but OK given there's no other choice.

    Best is after a big night out, I can jog my memory which is usually shot… Haha

    Oooh, I left the club at that time? ^_^

  • now repeat after me "you are free"

    welcome to 1984…..

    “If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself.”

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