Should I Hold off on Delivery So My Vehicle Is a 2018 Vehicle?

lockmc on 11/12/2017 - 09:16
Last edited 11/12/2017 - 10:02

Hi guys.
I have an MY18 VW Tiguan due to be delivered around Xmas time.
Does this mean it would be a 2017 MY18 vehicle.. because it was first registered in 2017?

If I was to hold off on the delivery of the vehicle until January, would it be a 2018 MY18 vehicle?
The only difference is that when I go to sell it, mentally people think its a newer vehicle.

If so, I'm prepared to wait a few extra days to receive it if the dealer is happy with that.
Or is the year not based on first registration date?

Thanks

Automotive

Comments

  • angelkulit025 on 11/12/2017 - 09:19
    +8

    MY year is very different from first rego. We can have a 1975 MY car first registered in 2017. Can you call that car a 2017 MY car? Selling always rely on the manufactured year not the time it was first registered.

    • coin saver on 11/12/2017 - 10:35
      +1

      You an also have a my18 car first registered in 2017.

      • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 11:02

        And your Auntie could have… you know the rest.

        Point is, it's the VIN or chassis number that denotes the MY of a vehicle, NOT the compliance plate. The compliance plate is only there to say that this vehicle passed ADR regulations at the time it was sold. It's not there to serve as a factory build date or model year identifier…

  • jimbobaus on 11/12/2017 - 09:20
    +14

    When you ordered the car and paid your deposit the car was allocated to you
    It might have been on a boat in transit etc but the vehicle is already allocated.
    Delaying the delivery will not change the vehicle, it will just mean it sits at the dealer waiting for you to pick it up.

    • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 11:07

      This.

      Unless OP specified that they were not going to pick it up until middle of January, then holding off picking it up will have little effect. The car may have already been in the dealers stock and may be complianced as far back as September. If it was at the import holding, then as soon as OP paid the deposit and signed away, that car would have been allocated and would be delivered to the dealer before the pick up date and the compliance plate would have been fitted just prior to it being shipped to the dealer.

  • itsdougie on 11/12/2017 - 09:27

    It would not make a difference.

  • redvaldez on 11/12/2017 - 09:33
    +2

    I think you are a bit confused about the use of 'MY'. It refers to an update to the vehicle's specifications, features, pricing etc for a particular model year. It doesn't have anything to do with delivery date, registration date or compliance date. So if you've signed a contract to buy a MY17 vehicle, that's what you're getting.

    • HardQuiz on 11/12/2017 - 09:52

      Compliance date is what matters anyway.

      • Sterio on 11/12/2017 - 10:40
        +3

        Its build date not compliance date

    • lockmc on 11/12/2017 - 10:07

      No, I'm not confused about what MY means. I'm confused what the year is derived from. And from what I'm hearing, its compliant plate, not the first registration date.

      • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 10:53
        +2

        The compliance plate is only there as a statement that the vehicle passed ADR compliance regulations at the time the plate was fitted to the vehicle. It has nothing to do with the year model of the vehicle. The year model of the vehicle is determined by the VIN. So, if you were to sell it later on in it's life, you could say, yes, its an '18MY car, because the VIN says it is…

      • redvaldez on 11/12/2017 - 11:21

        There isn't a set formula. It varies manufacturer to manufacturer. I'm sure I've seen, for example, MY18 vehicles released in the middle of 2017 before.

        • [Deactivated] on 11/12/2017 - 15:31
          +1

          Holden used to release MY -.5 updates as early as March, and full year updates in may/ June for some commodes. Nothing like getting next years car a year early.

      • [Deactivated] on 11/12/2017 - 15:29

        The MY is at the discretion of the car maker and dictates what features the vehicle has as standard. The compliance date/plate is to show it passed local regulations and laws( based on similar model crash testing etc.) and the build date is the year/month it was built. If you have signed a contract now you will probably get an MY18 vehicle build dated 09/17 and complied 11/17 for delivery in dec17. Even if you waited til January you would still get a 17 build car due to import times/dealer backlog unless you stated ‘I want a —/18 build date’.

  • Lando on 11/12/2017 - 09:35
    -4

    lol have fun going back to the dealer to get repairs done

    • lockmc on 11/12/2017 - 10:07

      Why?

      • Well Wasted on 12/12/2017 - 09:22

        dealer = what year car are you booking in? you = i'm not sure.

        • pegaxs on 12/12/2017 - 16:32
          +1

          As an ex-service advisor, this is not the usual line of questioning…

          It’s more along the lines of, what’s the rego? If we don’t have it on file, the next questions are make, model, year and km. If they can’t tell us the year, the next question is “do you have the VIN?” As that will tell me exactly what year model it is. If not, we don’t care what year it is as we will get the VIN when it comes in and determine it from that.

  • lockmc on 11/12/2017 - 10:07
    +1

    Thanks for the replies. So I now understand that the date is the compliance plate date, not the first registration date.

    • MrBear on 12/12/2017 - 16:15

      It will still be better to ask for a Jan 2018 BUILD DATE vehicle (which will also be a MY2018), as your resale value will be better than a MY2018 with a 2017 build date.

      • spackbace on 12/12/2017 - 21:31

        Too late, order is in place, customers name is attached to the vehicle.

  • Foxtail on 11/12/2017 - 10:09
    +1

    Probably need to get it in Feb 218 to have 2018 compliance plate.

    • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 10:51

      Not really. I have worked in the facilities that hold cars after importing. The compliance plate is fitted at the time a dealer asks for it to be allocated to them. If it's a slow moving model, it can be up to years before a compliance plate gets fitted. I bought a run-out model motorcycle that was in storage for 2 years before the compliance plate got fitted.

      But sure, on a fast moving stock car like a Tiguan, these would either be on ships or on the docks for only a short time, so the lag behind when it landed and when it gets sold is pretty short.

  • Gronk on 11/12/2017 - 10:26
    +3

    Unless you specified '2018 Build & Compliance Plates' on the contract of sale, you're getting a 2017 model.

  • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 10:31
    +2

    I worked for a car holding/import facility. This is where "compliance plates" get put on. As soon as the dealer puts in an order for a car, if it is in the country, the compliance plate gets put on at that time. Holding off will do nothing to change the year or the model of the car. If you have paid a deposit, the car is allocated to you.

    You can have an MY18 car with 2017 compliance plate. Cars are usually year marked around September/October. So well before '18 you will see cars being sold as '18 models but have 2017 compliance plates. It depends on when you buy it and if it's a fast selling or a slow selling model. I have a motorcycle that is a '08 model, but has a '10 compliance plate.

    Don’t confuse "compliance plates" with VIN or year model. The true model year of the vehicle is in the VIN. It's usually the 10/11th numbers/letters in the VIN. The compliance plate is only there to denote the month and year that the vehicle passed "ADR compliance" to be eligible for use on Australian roads. It has nothing to do with year model.

    • spackbace on 11/12/2017 - 13:08
      +1

      But it does depend on timing as well. Anything that's due to arrive mid-December (I think the date is the 16th or 17th or so), will be held back to get an 18 Compliance. Whether that's for the benefit of the customer, or because they shut down over Christmas etc, I'm not sure.

      So we won't be delivering fresh cars just before Christmas, they'll be held over. Holden & Suzuki used to do the same thing.

      • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 14:50
        +1

        When I was working there, that's what it was more about. It was more about ramping down for Christmas. The orders usually dried up in early Dec. and as soon as Jan. got here, it was bedlam to fill orders. I think it has more to do with staffing/shipping than it does with dates on compliance plates…

  • HighAndDry on 11/12/2017 - 10:38

    Also, in addition to what everyone else has been saying (delaying the delivery date won't make a difference) - dealers know the same and would charge more for actual 2018 vehicles.

  • Klevakiwi on 11/12/2017 - 10:38
    +3

    It looks as though you are getting a 2017 built my18 Model. You can ask the dealer if they can hold off complying the vehicle until January. The compliance plate will be fitted by either Patrick's or Auto Nexus depending on who VW use. It is not uncommon for people who have cars on order who will be away etc over xmas or who just dont want a dec compliance plate to delay delivery until Jan. Dealers also dont want cars sitting around taking up space if the new owners are away and unable to pick up.This would push your delivery back until late Jan.
    Normally dealers will advise Auto Nexus of vehicles they dont want complied in December so you may be too late already. Talk to the Sales Manager, not the Sales Consultant.

  • Toons on 11/12/2017 - 11:24

    My car arrived in the country second week of Jan but was obviously built in December previous year. as the people stated above it's registration wasn't applied till it had cleared customs and the dealers got their hands on it.

    Not a lot you can do to hold this off unless you bugger around with the contract not worth the hassle unless a 2018 model built from Jan 1st have some changes that distinguish it from the prior year.

    on a positive side the insurance will be cheaper they work on the same principal as mentioned by others or they did with me that the car is a 2017 and therefor there was a few hundred bucks difference just for being the prior year.

    test it out on some of the insurance quotes you need it anyway so ask what the difference would be between 17/18 build not compliance.

  • wayfastwhitie on 11/12/2017 - 11:36

    purchasing a car this time of year I would of held off so you get a 2018 build date.

    • cypher67 on 11/12/2017 - 11:42
      +3

      Depends, I'd rather get a deal on a 17 plate for a few grand less up front.

      • pegaxs on 11/12/2017 - 14:52

        Depends, I'd rather get a deal on a 17 plate for a few grand less up front.

        This! If they are both '18MY cars, I would sooner take the old stocker at a considerable discount then to pay $thousands more to get the right date on a compliance plate…

  • m0tyrider on 11/12/2017 - 12:13
    -1

    Don't hold off. If its a 2018 model already just get it, I believe you can later tell your state registration place to change the year of the car if it bugs you.

    Compliance date has nothing to do with the build. Who cares if its compliant in 2017. A 2018 "built" car is still a 2018 model regardless of when you get it or when it is compliant.

    I have a 2008 Subaru Forester, but its actually a "MY09". So its a 2009 model in my eyes.

    • nafe on 11/12/2017 - 12:29
      +4

      It's a 2009 Model spec, built in 2008.
      But as it's nearly 10 years old, so it's going to make a 1/10th of SFA difference when trading in or selling privately.

      • m0tyrider on 11/12/2017 - 12:36

        So if your going to keep the car for 10 years who cares what year its made :) as you said once its at this age it makes SFA difference.

        But I can see the logic if your going to get it traded within 3 years or so. You would want it to say the later year.

        EDIT: I guess it ultimately depends on how long the OP is going to keep the car for. if you know its not going to be long term (10yrs + ) then make sure it has the newer year on it. If not, its gonna make bugger all difference IMO

        • nafe on 11/12/2017 - 12:59
          +2

          Yep, some guys flip cars every year or two, in which case it makes more difference. Once you're over the 5 year mark, it's only going to matter to the fussiest of buyers IMHO

  • Foxtail on 11/12/2017 - 12:25

    It wont be a 2009 at trade in time.

  • try2bhelpful on 11/12/2017 - 15:08
    +1

    This article discusses the various date options.

    http://www.motorama.com.au/blog/buyer-advice/what-is-the-dif…

  • shakman on 12/12/2017 - 09:14

    I agree with the comments above and the only date that matters is the build date if you are going to sell it in under 5 years.

  • [Deactivated] on 12/12/2017 - 09:58
    -1

    As above there is only one date that matters and that is the BUILD DATE.

    Built 2017 and sold new 2018 doesn't mean it's a 2018 vehicle.

    • spackbace on 12/12/2017 - 16:08

      In response to that and a few others on the same matter, that is actually state-specific

      WA sells as per Compliance date, I believe everyone else is Build Date. Therefore Compliance Date is significant in WA :)

    • pegaxs on 12/12/2017 - 16:43

      No. But a VIN that says it’s a 2018 makes it a 2018 model.

      Next years model cars are frequently released to market about sept/oct. So it is entirely possible to have an ‘18 model car in ‘17…

  • [Deactivated] on 12/12/2017 - 17:10
    -2

    If the vehicle is built in 2017 it's a 2017 vehicle NOTHING absolutely NOTHING can change the build date.

    For the VIN to show 2018 it has to be built in 2018 the MY18 means squat to a vehicle manufactured in 2017 except to say it maybe an updated model.

    WA transport dept can't call a vehicle built in 2017 anything but a 2017 built vehicle.

    The vehicle I own came out in OZ October 2006. Mine is 2007 as it is a January 2007 built and delivered to me 28 Feb 2017.

    Finally to the OP. It doesn't matter if you wait till December 2018 to take delivery of you vehicle it is still 2017 built.

    • pegaxs on 12/12/2017 - 21:05
      +1

      You’re kind of correct, but not 100%. While the build date is the build date, this too is often skewed. A lot of cars are not considered built until the compliance plate goes on. At the importer/holding facilities that I worked at, cars were often shipped incomplete and it was our job to complete them. Decals, trims, options, these kinds of things. The car finished its build there, not when it left the factory. So, you are partially correct.

      But I can say, with 100% certainty, that the VIN is the biggest identifier of a vehicles MY designation. It’s basically the sole reason a spare parts guy will ask what the VIN is before they even start to look for parts.

      A great example of this is facelift changes and old stock cross overs. For example, in 1999, BMW went from E36 to E46. A very different car. You could still buy old stock E36 cars well into 2000. These were 1999MY plated 2000. Then there was the E46 that was a 2000MY plated 1999. If you go to BMW and say that your E46 is a 1999 model, you will get parts for a E36.

      For example on how the VIN is tied to this, it’s usually the 10 and 11th number/letters in your VIN. You most certainly can have a 2018MY VIN on a car sold in 2017. The MY contained in the VIN is the one that the car Is, not the one on the build date/compliance plates.

      Source: I have worked in the automotive sector longer than I care to admit. My whole day revolves around finding parts via VIN’s. I have worked for importation/holding/forwarding and final builds with compliance plate fitting.

    • spackbace on 13/12/2017 - 03:10
      +1

      WA transport dept can't call a vehicle built in 2017 anything but a 2017 built vehicle.

      When did I refer to build date? I referred to Compliance date for good reason.

      Go take it up with the WA Government if you really feel the need, but in WA cars are advertised as per their Compliance Date, not Build Date.

      Just because you don't like it doesn't make it untrue.

      K pumpkin?

      • pegaxs on 14/12/2017 - 11:47

        Hence the phrase… ‘18 model, plated ‘17… :D

  • Rescue 26 on 16/12/2017 - 15:22

    Coincidentally I am also waiting on a MY 2018 Tiguan. I ordered it through a broker in August and he was the one who actually advised I insist on 2018 build date. If your car was built in 2017 delaying registration and compliance until 2018 won't really achieve anything. Your registration (at least in NSW) will still list "Year" as being 2017, as it will be based on the build date supplied by the manufacturer (there will be a plate somewhere on the car with month and year of build).

  • browser on 18/12/2017 - 22:33

    What exactly does MY stand for or mean? Model Year? Manufactured Year?

    I think the build plate matters more than the compliance plate. So a 2018 model that was manufactured in 2017, subsequently complied and registered in 2018 is still considered a 2017 car.

    • nafe on 19/12/2017 - 12:19

      MY = Model Year - it's just a designation for manufacturers when they introduce a new "update" to specs or facelift etc. Some MY18 cars are availabel now, some won't be until someway through MY18. It's purely to determine the spec of the vehicle and has no bearing on when it was built or complied.

      • Euphemistic on 19/12/2017 - 15:36

        Well, it does have some bearing on when it was built or complied. As in it would normally be closer to 18 than another year. ie within 6 months of the year on the plate. They don't go naming it a MY18 back in 2016.

  • [Deactivated] on 29/03/2018 - 12:26

    VW, good luck :)

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