New Weight Loss Drug SAXENDA

Joe Sixpack on 11/02/2018 - 08:56
Last edited 17/02/2018 - 08:08

I'm taking the new weight loss drug Saxenda. Already down 7kg after 1.5 months. Is anyone else taking it, and what are your experiences?

Note: this is a focused thread about Saxenda, not about:

How you think Saxenda is a scam
How you lost weight using a low carb diet
How you think this is a MLM effort
What you feel about obesity and dieting generally.

Thanks!

Edit: please note, I am not affiliated with any drug or drug company and I do not receive payment for discussing my weight or Saxenda (I wish I did!)

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Comments

    • mrp11 on 11/02/2018 - 23:05

      Widely believed but base on what ive read not necessarily true,more complicated than that,fats combined with proteins are more filling,not to mention fibre.

      All calories may not be the same.

      On low carb diets a body using fat for energy does not need to release anywhere near the amount of insulin ,so does not send the carbs to fat for storage

      • KaTst3R on 12/02/2018 - 00:11
        +1

        You are not wrong, the calories are not the same. Carbs convert to sugar and if there are excess sugar, it undergoes lipogensis to be stored as fats. If your diet is high in protein, protein breaks down to amino acid and the excess is excreted as urea. Protein do not undergo transformation to form fat. So 2000 calories of carbs and 2000 calories of protein have totally different effect on the body. But the common person wont understand all these.

        That being said, if you follow the general rule of burning more calories than your intake, you will start to metabolise the fat cells in the body which WILL lead to a weight loss.

      • samfisher5986 on 14/02/2018 - 11:38

        While you are right, its still a numbers game.

        Low carb is less about using fat for energy and more about reducing/stopping your carb addiction when then heavily reduces the amount of food you eat.

        Most people on keto diets eat a lot less food in comparison to when they ate carbs.

    • Cluster on 12/02/2018 - 01:31
      +1

      It's the truth no one wants to hear. If you exercise more while cutting your kilojoule intake sufficiently you will lose weight. But that requires changing the diet permanently and adding in more exercise. Difficult to do, so people lump it all onto genetics and say they tried and there's nothing they can do.

      I changed my diet and added more exercise (serious exercise, not just walking) and lost 20% of my old body weight and feel great. It is possible to do, but is also difficult.

      There is no magic pill that solves the problem.

      • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:30
        +1

        There is no magic pill that solves the problem

        Solving it for me. I don't have a problem maintaining weight, just losing it. Once I'm down to my old weight, that I had for 25 years before I gained this weight due to an injury, I don't expect any problem staying down there.

        So for me, this drug is a great choice.

  • nomoneynoproblems on 11/02/2018 - 22:56
    +1

    Oh gee another one of these threads.

  • Black Brown Blue on 11/02/2018 - 23:15
    +2

    Watch Forks over Knives documentary. It will change your perspective and hopefully help you find the answer to this question.

  • Gorodemon on 12/02/2018 - 01:20
    +3

    Stop watching too many documentaries and start doing the hard yakka - i.e: lifting weights 4-5x/week plus controlling your food. Everyone's body responds differently to exercises and diets so find what works for you!

  • nobarginsarehere on 12/02/2018 - 04:26
    -1

    7kg, I fart 7kg

    Tell us how much you have lost after a year

    • DiscoJango on 12/02/2018 - 10:11
      +1

      Amend to: tell us how much you have gained back, after a year.

      • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 10:24
        -1

        50% of people who lose weight with Saxenda maintain the weight loss after 3 years.

  • c64 on 12/02/2018 - 10:14
    +1

    congratulations!

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 10:23
      +1

      Thanks. It seems almost nobody else is using Saxenda.

  • [Deactivated] on 12/02/2018 - 10:18
    -1

    Saxenda is a prescribed drug for obesity and you predict you will reach your goal weight with two boxes and you call yourself 'Joe Sixpack'.
    I might be jumping to false conclusions here, but are you really obese or are you using this to trim down to your ideal weight?

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 10:22

      "Joe Sixpack" is a common term in the US, like "Joe Bloggs" or "Arthur Average". The 'sixpack' refers to a sixpack of beer.

      My BMI was over 30, so I was classed as obese and my doctor had no problem prescribing it.

  • ELH05 on 12/02/2018 - 11:49

    Gosh I would absolutely love this but I cant afford $400 a month !! I struggle with weight but I could never justify spending this sort of money.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:16

      That's what I thought too …. until I reconsidered my priorities carefully. What's being thin worth to you?

      • [Deactivated] on 13/02/2018 - 03:03
        +2

        To me? Cutting sugary food out of my diet, cutting out fast food, not drinking alcohol, and avoiding soft drink in general. By your own comments, you aren't willing to do that, so maybe easy on the lecturing when it comes to others…

        • Joe Sixpack on 13/02/2018 - 06:31

          I don't drink alcohol, I eat about 200/cals per day in sugar (within recommended tolerances), and I don't drink soft drinks. Assume things much?

        • [Deactivated] on 13/02/2018 - 17:05

          @Joe Sixpack:

          Didn't assume anything.

          I eat sugar every day, but still losing weight. Go figure.

        • Joe Sixpack on 13/02/2018 - 17:06

          @Cubist: Dietitians agree, nothing wrong with a bit of sugar. The anti-sugar fetish is just silly.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/02/2018 - 17:19
          -1

          @Joe Sixpack: Not sure how you can think that sticking $400 a month miracle needles into yourself is sensible, but cutting down on sugar when it makes up more than 10% of your daily calorie intake is silly.

          Not criticising you for using the miracle needle by the way, only criticising your comment judging others.

        • Joe Sixpack on 13/02/2018 - 18:13

          @Cubist: If I diet without something sweet, it never lasts. Dietitians aver that the best diet is the one you are happy to live with. And I'm losing weight just fine. The sugar makes no difference.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/02/2018 - 18:39

          @Joe Sixpack:

          Sugar does make difference, it really just depends on how much being thin means to you.

          See how condescending that is?

        • Joe Sixpack on 13/02/2018 - 19:25

          @Cubist: It makes no difference, and I'm out of this discussion with you. Thanks for your thoughts and ba-bye.

        • [Deactivated] on 13/02/2018 - 19:30

          @Joe Sixpack: Guessing it sunk in.

        • Xastros on 14/02/2018 - 09:12

          @Joe Sixpack: Totally agree with this. Compliance is far more important than exact macronutrient makeup but overall calories still need to be low enough for weight loss.

        • haboutnnah on 17/02/2018 - 14:10

          @Joe Sixpack: sure 200cal in sugar, how much in not-sugar (before drug)

  • ELH05 on 12/02/2018 - 11:51
    +1

    I am waiting for this one to be TGA approved
    https://igballoon.com/

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:22

      Not even one successful patient to point to … pass.

  • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:01
    +1

    blah blah … weight loss industry … blah blah … multi billion $$ business … blah blah… misinformation….dodgy labelling….blame genetics….busy lifestyles….etc etc …. magic word SUGAR and processed food. Educate yourself on where these 'poisons' are and minimise your intake… and yeah that includes alcohol!! Problem solved!! I know it won't happen though as people will come up with a million excuses.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:17
      -1

      I eat sugar every day, but still losing weight. Go figure.

      • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:20

        lol… nevermind (facepalm)

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:23

          But it only affects appetite, not how sugar is processed. Bottom line: you can lose weight while incorporating sugar into your diet.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:25

          @Joe Sixpack:

          yup all good…keep taking drugs with questionable (at best) long term side effects.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:26
          +1

          @gimme: Many people have taken it for over a year with no long term consequences. I reckon I'll only need it for max 6 months.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:29
          +1

          @Joe Sixpack:

          My mistake… looking a your post I assumed it was a NEW drug. Didn't realise it had decades of independent peer reviewed research (long term) behind it.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:30

          @gimme: It's only recently approved in Australia.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:33

          @Joe Sixpack:

          cool.. good luck. Let's revisit in 2-3 years.

  • DiscoJango on 12/02/2018 - 12:26

    So this drug basically tells your brain you are full when you arent

    Save yourself $400 and dont over eat?

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:37
      +2

      If only it were that easy obesity would not be the #1 health problem in Australia, eh? [rolleyes]

      • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:40
        +1

        It's simple not easy.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:45

          The people advocating it are simple, IMO. Obesity is a complex problem.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:50
          +1

          @Joe Sixpack:

          It's only complex because the industry (profiteering from it) wants to confuse people and those in that situation are happy to lay the blame on the 'complex' nature. The solution can be easily simplified but it's not in anyone's interest unfortunately.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 12:52

          @gimme: Clearly you are not a fan of medical literature. Cheers.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 12:59
          +1

          @Joe Sixpack:

          Only the non financially driven ones.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:02
          +1

          @gimme: Thanks for your comments, but I prefer to rely on scientists rather than armchair experts on community fora.

          Pity I did not get anyone else who is taking Saxenda commenting here, which was the only reason I started the thread.

          Instead, I've been snowed under with off topic comments and even insults from uninformed people who think they know all about the issue. Sigh.

        • gimme on 12/02/2018 - 13:05

          @Joe Sixpack:

          I'm afraid you're in the wrong forum if you don't want 'armchair experts'. My only advice is that be very very very careful who you take your advice from. That includes, 'scientists' and the 'medical profession'. At the end of every advice there will generally be a vested interest. Good luck anyway. Let us know how you go after a few years.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:11

          @gimme: I am extremely cautious about the drugs I take. The fact is that there are very few negative outcomes associated with Saxenda. On top of that, obesity is a big health risk that I was struggling to overcome. Now losing weight is easy, I don't even think about dieting most of the time, yet the weight falls off.

          Everything in life is a trade-off. Weighing the mild risks of Saxenda against the definite and serious risks of obesity was a no-brainer.

  • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 13:12

    What was your weight before?

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:13
      -1

      104.5

      • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 13:21
        -2

        You aren't obese unless you are like 4ft

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:22

          I guess you've never heard of BMI. Perhaps commenting about something you know nothing about it a bad idea?

        • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 13:45

          @Joe Sixpack: BMI is retarded. Let's not go there. I'm 116 and 6ft 1. You'd think I'm obese but I'm lean like a race horse

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:48
          +1

          @D6C1: Every doctor on Earth uses BMI as an indicator of obesity. If you are about my height but 116kg, then the only way you are not obese is if you are a musclebound weightlifter with an incredible physique. 99.99% of normal people at that height and weight would be corpulent.

        • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 13:50
          -1

          @Joe Sixpack: Don't be so obsessed with BMI mate. A lot of people have given solid advice in this thread

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:51
          -2

          @D6C1: Why don't you stay on topic? Re-read my original post.

        • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 14:07
          +1

          @Joe Sixpack: Nah I did. You a looking for a quick fix. I'm happy for your loss and hope you can maintain a healthy lifestyle.

          I'm done. Good luck

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 14:27
          -1

          @D6C1:

          I'm done.

          Thank you Jeebus

        • Laurenlauren on 12/02/2018 - 19:56
          +1

          @D6C1: BMI can be very misleading for many people. I recently had a body scan done and my lean body mass (everything except fat) was 5kg higher than the 'normal' BMI for my height. So right now, if I lost every single fat cell in my body, I would be classified as overweight. I wish I knew this when I was growing up instead of hating myself for always being 'overweight'.

        • D6C1 on 12/02/2018 - 23:50

          @Laurenlauren: Agreed. Don't beat yourself over it

  • No ONE on 12/02/2018 - 13:14

    As spon as I read the title:

    New Weight Loss Drug SAXENDA

    I thought of MLM scheme.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:15
      -1

      Well bully for you. So many geniuses here….

  • arkanis50 on 12/02/2018 - 13:22
    +1

    Here I am trying to lose weight like a sucker… 45 minutes of excercise a day, healthy eating… and lost exactly 0kg in 2 months. :(

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 13:24
      +1

      I was doing all that plus limiting cals to 2000/day. Loss was very slow, and kept losing motivation. Tried for years. Got onto this drug and keeping to 1500-1600 cals/day with any effort. Expensive though….

      • arkanis50 on 12/02/2018 - 13:56

        I think I'm putting on muscle but it's demoralising looking at the scales and seeing nothing.

        • Laurenlauren on 12/02/2018 - 19:59

          I would highly recommend getting a body scan done. It can show you a breakdown of how much muscle and how much fat you have. It helps to see those changes when the scales show nothing.

        • Providence on 12/02/2018 - 21:09
          +3

          Get a tape measure and measure your waist. If your waist is getting smaller but your weight stays the same then you must be building muscle at the same time you are losing fat.

    • doodo477 on 13/02/2018 - 14:51

      [@arkanis50] What would you eat/drink for a single day?

      • arkanis50 on 13/02/2018 - 19:48

        Maybe a bowl of muesli for breakfast or an apple, maybe a chicken and salad wrap for lunch, some roasted vegetables and maybe a piece of steak for dinner. Some cheese or yoghurt for a snack. Have a couple of cups of tea, water, maybe a Diet Coke.

        I lost 20 kilos by excercising and counting calories about 4 or 5 years back… I should probably count calories again.

        • doodo477 on 14/02/2018 - 10:34
          +1

          Doing a quick calorie count of what you've listed, it mostly comes to 1234 calories. You're excluding something, because with the current intake of food you should be losing weight.

          Morning
          Muesli for breakfast = 247 [Waitrose Essential - Fruit & Nut Muesli With Semi Skimmed Milk]

          Afternoon
          chicken and salad wrap = 327
          Roasted Vegtables = 1/2 cup cooked 100

          Snack
          Yoghurt = 228 [1 cup]
          Apple = 52

          Dinner
          Steak = 200g = 280

          All up:
          247+327+100+228+52+280
          = 1234

        • arkanis50 on 14/02/2018 - 14:22

          @doodo477:

          Yeah like I say, I should get back to counting them with an app to see if I'm eating too little or maybe forgetting about snacks.

        • doodo477 on 14/02/2018 - 15:07

          @arkanis50:

          Here is my current viewpoint take it for what its worth. The best/easiest method I found to lose weight is to stick to (purchasing the food item's) every single day until you hit the desired weight goal.

          For example.
          I have a Banana in the morning, Fruit Salad, Sushi, and Unari for lunch. Then 10 brussel sprouts at the end of the day with 100g of chicken breast, throw in some okra.

          Its very boring/plain but its consistent/reliable method. Yes I can make the Fruit salad and sushi, though I think removing the food preparation is a lot off the mind and it keeps you focused on enjoying life well you lose weight.

  • Birchy on 12/02/2018 - 13:48

    If I take this with a six pack of beer will it stop my beer belly before it can happen?

  • donkeydoc on 12/02/2018 - 14:20
    +2

    Been on super low carb for months, easiest lifestyle change ever, just commit for one week, if you can do that your life will be easy. It's not hard and requires the same will power as it takes for you to show up at work!

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 14:28
      -3

      This is not a thread about different weight loss strategies. Please stay on topic

      • [Deactivated] on 12/02/2018 - 14:51
        +2

        It is the same strategy - reducing your daily carbohydrate intake. One is done with help of medicines and one is done by your sheer willpower. Some people may find this pill useful, but I wouldn't recommend anyone to take a pill may alter your hormone secretion unless you actually have a problem with your endocrine system.

        • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 15:32

          but I wouldn't recommend anyone to take a pill

          Luckily, the medical profession thinks otherwise.

      • samfisher5986 on 14/02/2018 - 11:29
        -1

        This is not your topic.

        If i want to talk about spiderman, I will.

        Also nice attempt at advertising, I bet you also have plenty of PM's from this as well.

    • Laurenlauren on 12/02/2018 - 20:00

      Hmmmm, I would say push through the first month and then it gets awesome. Keto can be very hard to adjust to for some (depending on their prior diet) and the keto-flu can hit hard.

      Once that passes though, low carb feels amazing.

      • samfisher5986 on 14/02/2018 - 11:32

        Keto flu is only experienced by some and even then most of the issues can be mitigated by having enough electrolytes, moving carbs down slowly etc.

    • kimmylala on 13/02/2018 - 21:14

      I could never go low carb, rice is life!

  • DrSyd on 12/02/2018 - 14:48
    +3

    Good on you for sharing your experiences Joe, I understand the troubles people can have with weight loss. Realistically what a lot of people are saying is true, it is simply a matter of calories in - calories out which is achieved by a combination of diet and exercise although when people find it difficult to loose weight I believe that pharmacological therapies are definitely effective.

    Stick with your regime until you hit your target weight and hopefully this motivates you to adopt and continue a healthier lifestyle to keep the weight off and remain fit and healthy.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 15:34

      Thank you. It's a relief to see a sensible comment.

  • Vert93 on 12/02/2018 - 14:59
    +2

    IIFYM. Calories in vs calories out, your body can't break the laws of thermodynamics.

    Fat acceptance has gone too far in this pussified lefty society.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 15:35
      -1

      Off topic

      • haboutnnah on 17/02/2018 - 14:13

        how so?

        its a cheaper way and this is ozbargain

  • scratchback on 12/02/2018 - 15:30

    Is it working for average or slim person?

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 15:36
      -1

      Is working for fat person, make slim person

  • Ethernia on 12/02/2018 - 15:44

    It isn't easy, but for the majority of people drugs are not needed, it's all in your head.

    Mind over matter (or in the case, over stomach)

    At my heaviest i was over 110kgs, for someone only 5'6 this is pretty huge.

    I didn't take any drugs or work out excessively, just controlled portions, walking (definitely no running)

    I won't lie, it was an effort and took me years to lose it all slowly, but now im around 59KG's and as long as my mind is watching what i eat, im fine.

    I think if i had taken drugs to try and lose it i would be in a worse position than i am now.

    Big thing for me was portions.. my meals were 3-4 times larger than what i have these days, its honestly mind blowing.

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 15:45
      -5

      Thanks, but off topic

    • Laurenlauren on 12/02/2018 - 20:02
      +3

      Congrats on such a great lifestyle change. That's really impressive.

    • MrGareth on 13/02/2018 - 10:02
      +1

      Dunno why Joe’s calling everything off-topic, this is a forum and everyone is now discussing weight loss methods – and this is OzBargain, we like free stuff not expensive medications! 

      I’m posting because I’m in a similar situation to Ethernia. In my case, 5’8” and 106Kg at my biggest – now I’m 91, still with LOTS more to go and it’s just slow ‘n steady progress. I do exactly the same thing – a bit of walking (no real exercise, and never set foot in a gym before), I just eat much smaller portions, and healthier foods in general. It’s actually cheaper eating way less than I used to!!! It’s a win-win.

      It really is all in the mind when it comes to this stuff :)

      • samfisher5986 on 14/02/2018 - 11:33

        Its offtopic if you aren't positive about his drug that he's selling/advertising.

  • Whomastadon on 12/02/2018 - 15:46

    lol @ taking drugs for weight loss.

    I'll just keep eating healthy and exercising.

    Alot of people dont just do it for the " weight loss " but the overall benefits from living a healthy lifestyle.

    If you can eat maccas all day and still be skinny, you're still not healthy.

  • Larkdord on 12/02/2018 - 16:14

    What is the guarantee that you won't put that weight back on gradually as soon as you stop the pills…

    I really don't know your health issues or your background, but as always natural lifestyle changes will help if you consistently stick to them.

    But ofcourse if you needed the pills to kick start your lifestyle change, good on you..

    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 16:56

      I have a long history of maintaining a lower weight in the past; only gained this weight because of an injury. Very confident I can keep it off.

  • auna on 12/02/2018 - 16:46
    +3

    Just do Myfitnesspal with an Apple Watch. Eat better and move more. Do what it says to get 1kg a week loss and it will be swell. I have lost 47KG doing this.

    I order Youfoodz these days, eating a meal of it once a day. It really helps because the variety and convenience make it feel like I am not missing out.

    Keep in mind some other tips:

    • Protein helps incredibly. It requires more calories to process protein and helps weight loss. It also helps keep you full.
    • Fruit and Vegetables are great but still require moderation. Weight Watchers biggest flaw is making them seem like they have almost no affect on weight gain. Try melons, berries and peaches for a better quantity for the calories.
    • Drink more water. I now easily drink double to triple the water I used to which greatly limits hunger compared to before.
    • Joe Sixpack on 12/02/2018 - 16:57
      -4

      Thanks, but since this is not a thread about dieting methods or advice, off topic.

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