Looking for Ethernet Powerline Solution

[Deactivated] on 02/03/2018 - 10:30

I have done some searching but I can't find immediate easy answers.

I am fully aware of how EoP works and have installed many times.

I'm providing a solution for a friend to add 4 WiFi devices they already own to connect back to their modem via Powerline.

I could get 4 pairs of adapters but then had a thought that there must be a home theatre kit that scales to allow multiple additional powerline adapters for connectivity.

I have seen home theatre kits where a Powerline switch sits near the modem - with AV adapters linking - and just want to confirm that the routers connect to a list of compatible single port devices such that:

  • Each AV adapter behaves as if an extra port has been added to the switch ?

or

  • Each AV adapter corresponds to an individual port on the switch ?

If it's the former - I am effectively getting a 4 port switch that has the ability to scale. If it's the latter - I am effectively getting a smaller footprint of 8 devices (4 pairs).

Computing Ethernet over Power Powerline Network Powerline Theatre Kit

Comments

  • geek001 on 02/03/2018 - 10:57

    i got 4 EOP adapters from this deal. They work well together. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/305952

    .#1 is where my modem is.
    .#2 is where my living room is. Hooked up to an AP with switch.
    .#3 is dining area.
    .#4 is in my study.

  • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2018 - 11:08

    So you got 4 pairs (8 adapters) in total ?

    That's what I want to try to avoid

    • geek001 on 02/03/2018 - 11:11

      Nope, I only have 4 adapters in total. They are not pairs, each adapter is able to "see" all other adapters, so no need for pairs.

      • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2018 - 11:23

        Ok that's perfect - so they all connect to each other and form a switch ?

        Essentially I don't need to get a home theatre kit - I can just get one device and plug it into the modem - the rest will scale and simply "add to the network"

        That's excellent.

        • geek001 on 02/03/2018 - 11:43

          Pretty much. With EOP technology, it is not perfect. I have found 2 things that you may need to be aware of.

          1. Sometimes the network stops working. The EOP adapters need to be turned off and on again for it to re-sync. I had AV200 adapters before, and I had to do it once every few days, I then upgraded to AV500 in the deal and I only had to do it maybe once in a few months. Not sure if it brand specific though.

          2. With some electrical outlets, the adapters can't "see" other adapters therefore devices may not be able to connect to each other. You may need to find another solution perhaps in this case if you need the devices to "see" each other. I suspect this is because the wiring is just too far away from each other.

          eg. I have my NAS connected to #2. When I had one of the adapters upstairs, the adapter could "see" #1 and therefore could connect to the internet, but it couldn't "see" the NAS connected to #2, which is at the other end of the house.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2018 - 12:35

          @geek001:

          But was #2 able to see #1 ?

          If it was then by definition it doesn't matter if the upstairs adapter (let's call it #Z) can see #2 - as long as it can see #1 which it can.

          ?

          In other words - as long as EVERYONE can see #1 why does it matter if #Z can see #2 ?

          This diagram: https://pasteboard.co/H9XUlGA.png

          Where blue lines should not matter.

        • geek001 on 02/03/2018 - 12:53

          @Michegianni: Yes, all adapters can "see" #1. In your use case, it probably doesn't matter as devices only needed to get onto the internet, but I have videos, photos on my NAS, so it is important to me that other adapters can see #2 to be able to view media off it. I also have a network printer connected to #4, so I wanted devices connected to my network to be able to print as well.

          Anyway, my point is that it depends on the wiring of the house, if the wiring is too far, adapters may not see each other. ie. if your modem is at the far end, adapters may not be able to see it, even though it can see other closer adapters.

        • [Deactivated] on 02/03/2018 - 13:42

          @geek001:

          Sorry but if everything can see #1 it doesn't matter if #2, #3 or #4 can see each other. Everything will work. Printers, NAS. Our use case is exactly the same not just for internet.

          So I'm now a bit scared here… If you are getting drop outs - and they can all see #1 then maybe there's something else at play.

          In your use case:

          • '#4 (printer for example) sees #1 (the modem) and they are connected.

          • '#3 (computer for example) sees #1 (the modem) and they are connected.

          So the modem has both the Printer and Computer connected to it - therefore through #1 the printer and computer both see each other.

          There is no need for #4 powerline adapter to see #3 powerline adapter. They both see #1 and the modem routes.

  • Amaris on 02/03/2018 - 11:17
    +1

    If you've connected #1 EOP adapter to your ROUTER (I'm sure your modem has a router built in), then any pieces of equipment connected to the other EOP directly or via the APs will behave as if directly connected to the router. If nothing is connected to an EOP that EOP adapter is invisible to the router.

  • Geoff-bargain on 02/03/2018 - 13:00

    I bought some dlink ones (DHP-701AV) that were meant to be fast but they are pretty slow - Ive got them plugged directly into the wall at each end. Still speed on file copies isnt very fast and there is a small amount of latency 4ms on avg

Login or Join to leave a comment
Login Join