Brother MFC-J5910dw Clogged?? Recommendations?

Hi guys, have a second hand brother mfc-j5910dw that I grabbed years back. It came with empty'ish ink tanks but upon cleaning and alignment tests on the machine I got perfectly fine black and white on the 'odd' document or flight itinerary printout over the year or two so never replaced anything. Recently - as these things always happen - I had an urgent job related document that I couldn't print. Was getting the colour cartridge errors that required replacing. I tried various prints and cleaning etc to no avail. Finally bought some cheap 20 for $18 sorta ebay refills from funstore - and they've just arrived (i got the mrs to print at work then).

However, I've had problems since installing the replacement ebay ink tanks. At first magenta and cyan tanks would show in the 'cleaning' quality tests albeit with alot of missing squares (brother tests print a square made up of multiple small squares of each of the 4 colours: black, yellow, cyan and magenta - not sure if this is common across all printers?). Shortly thereafter the cyan disappeared and the yellow was feint and hit and miss on showing. Black non existent.

After many cleaning tests run I finally got a cleaning sheet with pure black text showing up perfectly fine and nearly all perfect colour squares - albeit the odd smaller square not showing colour in the relevant colour's box area. I did more 'cleaning' to get the last bit out and have since done more than 6 cleaning functions but the black disappeared and cyan too. So i've now gone backwards?

I'ma bit confused given how the print quality 'improved' suddenly to nearly having perfect colour squares, and perfectly fine black sentences. Now if I print grayscale i get nothing, if i print non grayscale i get mostly magenta text. I've tried sending 20, 30 pages of just grayscale and still blank, no more black has shown up.

I've since done some googling and discovered that a) it was bad trying to run printing on the empty tanks prev and b) running cleaning functions more than a few times also dries out the printer heads. Alternatively i've heard that c) the excessive cleaning and printing could cause too much black ink and the like to be smeared over the print head, and causing no printing, or becuase the 'pads' are full the ink wont draw out?

So it leaves me with the question: being unsavvy with this thing do I have dodgy ebay replacement cartridges? They're dirt cheap at $18 for 20, considering a legitmate ink costs an arm and a leg. Or is it merely running cleaning too much had changed the 'nearly working' quality test into a dried up head? I've never cleaned a printer head but it seems to be a big pain the behind. Any advice on what to do to troubleshoot if its cartridge or printer?

On a segue to another point - just wondering if I should consider a laser printer (stuff they use at workplaces?). I print the odd thing out every few months or longer during the year, so I need something that doesn't dry up like this when you take that annual holiday, or print that odd document a few times a yr only (Rest of time you print at work). I heard the laser printers are more expensive upfront but longer term cheaper to run? And supposedly they don't dry up right? So I could buy one and keep it for years and still expect it to work when i turn it on for an urgent printout?

Are the generic replacements toners off ebay just as good, given inkjet replacements are so cheap on ebay in comparison to their originals?

And lastly what would one recommend?Is a monochrome laser printer alot cheaper upfront and re: ongoing costs than a colour laser printer? Something that can fit on your table or desk (so quite boxy) - nothing business or home business and office like in terms of size and volume. Just your average family printer size. Keen to also have wireless printing from your laptops/computers over the wifi network, or even via usb or other inputs (wired).

I am after scanning too - preferably feeder tray if it is doable without getting one of those huge beast size of a multi function printer? I would consider a single purpose scanner though, one that can feeed through docs than having to scan one at a time on the glass lid… mainly as I'm keen to do a project per a website that involves electronically backing up all paper forms to 'declutter' and move everything electronic. And hence a glass lid style approach to scnaning would eat up alot of time. I take it duplex printing is a 'given' in all printers and not really an unique thing. Should I stick with brands like Brother or Canon when it comes to affordable laser printers? Jus twant something easy to find cheap replacement ink or parts and even just little things like being able to continue printing when 'low' toner than being forced and unable to continue printing.

I'm thinking something sub $200, preferably sub $100-150 given how cheap inkjets go on sale….any recommendations? Although it would be good to see if i can salvage this inkjet printer given I only just got the ebay ink… I am hoping it isn't too late and I haven't buggered it with all the cleaning cycles. I mean i did nearly get full black and colour ink so for it to now disappear perhaps it isn't clogged?? Any ideas?

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  • Yes for occasional use lasers are much better than inkjet.
    Colour laser will cost more than mono but they're not too bad these days. I got our brother colour laser around 8 years ago for $200 so I suspect they are cheaper now. I have noticed a premium for laser multi-function devices so if you can make do without scanning (I just take a pic with my phone or camera when I need something scanned) then you can save some money.

    As for generic cartridges I would buy them locally from cartridgeworld or similar as you'll at least have some recourse if they don't work. Unless you have a trusted supplier on Ebay you don;t really know what you're getting. Life is like a box of chocolates as they say…

    • WHat sort of price difference would a colour command over a mono (both in upfront cost to buy and toner replacements)?

      Would you need to run 2 toners - one a colour, one black?

      I rarely need to scan but if I did it would usually be for documentation or emailing something, so whilei could get it done via picturing somethign up and sending it to someone, i Think I would prefer proper documents or appplications/signatory docs etc. be properly scanned.

      That and I'm thinking of e-papering my room and so having pdf scanned copies of bank statements , share registry docs etc. would be important. With a phone I guess an image seems alot harder to ship around than a proper pdf etc? plus I presume the OCR is a possibility by pdf'ing stuff, if I can work out how to get scanned stuff imported into OCR for searchability of words?

      Are you referring to cartridge world the physical store? I just figured the online stores like inkhub or inkstation or whatever it is called would be an online prescence and a more competitive price than bricks and mortars (who are in turn more comparably priced than the original inks of course).

      If laser printers dont' 'age' with disuse then it would be perfect for keeping for years with the 'odd printout'.Not sure if i can get something desk friendly at home use (not lookign for a mini office behemoth) that has both the feeder scanner option, and could print a3 or a4 by any chance? Doubt I'd need a3 but would be pretty cool to have that functionality for 'larger' spreadsheets etc. Otherwise a4 will do.

  • Buy a new printer?

    • Hence my topic tbh.

  • Yeah…if you're not mad keen on printing images all the time (and if your inkjet heads clog, then you're probably not), then get a laser. I've been buying used B&W enterprise class laser printers for years…the most recent must have printed many reams of A4, and still has about 25,000 pages in the cartridge according to the status. We just replaced it with a Brother HL-L8360CDW simply because my son needed to do colour for school work. First brand new printer I've bought for a while.

    No scanner on that one, and it's a little pricier than you want. I didn't go the multi-function route as I want a decent scanner to do negatives (yes, I still do a little film, and I have a large collection of old negatives). I will pick up an Epson scanner when I get around to it, as they're one of the best in this class.

    So, lasers should always work out cheaper per page than inkjet, should print better text, and should print faster than an inkjet. An inkjet will produce better images, but the ink can be costly, and the jets may clog (particularly if not used regularly). The laser may have a larger footprint than an inkjet, though if you're going for a multifunction you may end up with a behemoth either way.

    If you go down the route of buying a laser, try to stick with widely available models. Printer manufacturers sometimes produce cut price models for discount chains, and they may be specific to the store you buy it from. They will be odd model designations that you can't find much information on when consulting Google. Just do a bit of research if you buy a new one (probably goes for inkjets too). I identified the Brother 8360 as a good candidate for us, then walked into Officeworks with a list of suppliers that sold the 8360 far cheaper than they did. They accepted one of the fairly low prices for price match (they won't match parallel importers, and there were quite a few in the list I put together!) - it knocked a LOT off the price I paid.

    Or if you have an auction house nearby that deals with used office equipment, and you have the space, you may find a good used enterprise/office class laser.

    • The only images I'd print are those incidental to webpages or whatever document or chart etc. i'm printing. I wouldn't use it for actual digital photo printing for keepsake?

      I haven't heard of B & W enterprise but I do note I want it for home use. Not so much home business or home office in terms of a mini behemoth , but nore of somethign to fit in a corner or on a table to printout itineraries (flight etc.) and all those other bits and bobs you print out infrequently throughout the years. THe odd printout of documens to read, webpages, or 'reading material' would be good… hence I figured having a laser printer may be better suited than going through this pain of clogged heads with an inkjet?

      I did think a seperate scanner would be better but if a multifunction does just as comparable quality scanning i think it would be prudent to get the multifunction perhaps?

      Is there any specific brands I should stick with as being more widely available parts, toners etc? I presume brother, epson, hp and canon are all ok for home warriors? How do I figure out which models are more budget/specificly produced models versus widely available and in use for parts and consumables as you recommended? Is it just googling and seeing how much comes up, or is there a general 'series' line in say the brothers for example that are their core range distributed all throughout?

      Printing speed isn't a concern as inkjet or laser etc. im sure i wont be printing out dozens of pages, and so at home I have enough time for any average printer to print. I just wanted to go down the route of cost efficiency and being able to not print for months and just turn it on and start printing.

      Re: the auction house, probably nto the route I want to go down as i'm not looking for an office style 'stand next to it ' sorta heigh and size printer. More of something box shaped you'd put on your table, desk, or whatever else at home and print to. I think these days the ability to print wirelessly from phone or computer on the wifi network would be great, as well as usb inputs or wired/physical options if wireless fails.

    • one thing I didn't like about my brother iprint software on android phone was you couldn't force or change a setting to print double sided or more importantly in grayscale. I'm not sure if different brother printers use a diff software otherwise I would hop emaybe a non brother branded printer would have better software to allow on phone printing of documents etc with basic functionality liek that: choosing double sided, printing in grayscale etc (obviously not an issue if its a mono laser though).

      Just browswing the officeworks website.. how are fuji xerox as a brand/multifunction mono laser?

      https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/c/technology…

      For the price range it seems only the brother, fuji xerox and hp are an option, with others going into the hundreds and thousands.

  • Don't get a cheap inkjet, it'll always cost you more. Even if you buy 3rd party inks, they use ink to clean their nozzles; so you're losing ink even when you don't print anything.

    The only situation an inkjet is better than laser is printing photos. Even then, I'd suggest getting photos printed by the store (either online or in person)… their print quality will be miles ahead of a cheap inkjet, and the per print cost lower too.

    In terms of a scanner, you're probably better served buying a multifunction than having a separate scanner. If you get a separate scanner with an auto-feeder, you're not really saving much space or cost over a multifunction.

    • I never have printed photos out (for viewing etc). the only 'photos' would be thos eincidental pictures or images on whatever it is im printing out, which is rare i.e. websites, or webpages, otherwise it would be documents, pdfs, charts, brochures or anything interesting. So I'm not looking for photo quality photo printouts, if that makes sense? I haven't done in years, but if I wanted digital photos printed I'd get a big w or other proper glossy style photo paper done.

      I thought a seperate feed scanner or one you can put on your room floor and scan pages to 'switch to electronic' woudl work, but if easier then perhaps a multifunction with afeeder tray is better. The ones at work are great, but I found the MFC brother I have the scnaning just seems alot more feint and bad quality than I 'expected'. Even worse than my parents lift the lid and scan via the glass canon printer. Perhaps just a dodgy or bad quality scanning component, i assume other multifunctions have half decent scanning?

      Is it possible to get a laser printer with colour scanning but monochrome toner as i presume you only need one toner rather than two (colour and b & w, or does a colour laser printer use still one toner ?)

      I didn't know about the nozzle cleaning. And as a kid I just thought inkjets run out of ink very fast. I didn't know all this 'cleaning' too many times with th efunction or eeking out the last ink could have dried the nozzles up. I'm sure it isn't 'hard' but somewhat put off having to go hunt for printer head cleaner, syringes and all the other works to try and unblock it. Hence the thought on whether a laser was a better option. Although seems like a waste having just ordered the ebay ink and i have 20 catridges now waiting to be used.

      DOes ebay /generic toners pull off decent quality for home use? Given i heard toners are even more expensive than inkjets on a price basis (perhaps not per page basis cost).

      • You'll need to search for reviews if you're concerned about scan quality, it's hard to say when it comes to the cheaper models. I almost never scan photos, so I'm not as concerned with quality of my scans. My understanding is that flat-bed scanners make higher quality scans, but at the expense speed and convenience, whereas an auto-feeder is the reverse.

        In terms of toner, all colour lasers I'm aware of have 4 cartridges… a black, plus the 3 main colours.

        Regarding inkjet nozzle cleaning, the printers are actually programmed to do it automatically… either every time you power on, or at certain time intervals. That's why they seem to run out of ink so quickly. I gave up on inkjets when I realized I was replacing my ink every 4-6 months even though I was printing less than 50 pages in that time. I suppose you could just turn them off at the mains, but then you run into the clogging that you've experienced.

        I've had both good and bad experiences with 3rd party laser toner. You'll need to ask people with your same model to find out which ones are more reliable.

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