These are the speeds I’m getting from my Vodafone sim card using their four year old 4G battery modem.
70.58/11.81
Who needs fibre when you get cell speeds like this? And this is 4G. 5G is supposed to be ten times faster.
So what is the point of a 50 billion NBN roll out? Just think how the cellular infrastructure could be enhanced for that much scratch. And no need to worry if your street has a blackout. Does any government official ever think these things through?
I could be I’m barking up the wrong tree but I’m hoping someone will sort me out or point me on.
And BTW I only paid $4 for 35gb 180 days.
This May Be an Old Argument but Can Cellular Outpace Fibre?
Lon Chaney on 14/08/2018 - 12:29
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*Lastly, Pings are shit.
This is the biggest difference - wireless connections might be fast in terms of speed, but they still trail far behind in terms of latency.
The issue with cellular is a bandwidth issue rather than a speed issue. Each tower has a ~ten gig link back to base and if everyone was using that we would get speeds of less than 100kbs. Telcos love spouting great speeds so limit the bandwidth people can use by data caps.
Fibre is easy to upgrade as you only need to replace the machines on the end rather than digging up the roads again. (which is why fttn is such a crime)which is why fttn is such a crime
Amen.
Gotta love these luddites.
Let me point out user saturation issues:
- With your 4g (or 5g etc) the speed they advertise is the BEST speed you can get, with lots of assumptions (how far you are from the tower, how many people on it, etc).
- Each tower can only support a certain number of people. To ensure that everyone can get the best speed possible, you will be building a ridiculous number of towers (I've seen quotes saying 1 per block)
- When too many people are on the same tower, your speed starts reducing drastically.
With fibre:
- You will always get close to the advertised speed (some assumptions apply, but no longer in regards to the hardware. Ie: did your isp buy enough bandwidth?)
- This means EVERYONE can be on at the same time.
- Everyone gets the same speed no matter how far you are from the infrastructure (assuming they're connected to fibre)
- Lower maintenance and cheaper to upgrade speeds in the future - MUCH cheaper in the long run.
- unaffected by weather/buildings/terrain - speeds are the same in any condition but much more importantly it is RELIABLE.
Unfortunately these luddites are major part of the reason why liberals got voted in so they could replace the far superior FTTP NBN with a subpar version. And now we're all stuck with the shit version. Thanks muchly!
Also if you went to countries that are highly connected internet-wise, you find just about every corner is an antenna array. Look to the skies next time you're in Singapore, Seoul, major Japanese cities, etc.
This is only possible due to the fibre already there.
To do so anywhere they need to build fibre in (ie without the fttp network) is crazy talk.
It pretty much all makes sense so I can put my cynical noodle to rest now.
Thank you for that.Tony is that you?
Nah he's currently busy negging the neg
While popping a few suppositories
Based on technical potential, NO.
Based on real world usage, No. Regardless how fast the Cellular speed is, the data between Cellular and Server is still done some medium, e.g. copper / fiber.
Based on real world incompetent implementation (cellular vs NBN), YES.FTTP is the speed of light isn't it? People NEGging NBN 1.0 kept on saying, oh, it will be obsolete before it's finished, but what is faster than the speed of light?
The speed at which Barnaby Joyce can get a staffer pregnant
With 35gb over 6 months, cannot watch much streaming.
Im on old optus plan with unlimited data. Can stream full had netflix, and maybe not 'full 4k' but somewhere in between 1080p and 4k, with the limited 4k content available atm for streaming.
I definitely wouldn't bother with cabled/fibre internet, unless my unlimited plan went away (they increased it from $2/day to $3/day recently, unlimited calls/text/data) ..
I think with 3g, I get about 12mb per sec download speed, and with optus 4g I got about 30mb per sec. The old optus unlimited plan only allows for 3g, but that runs netflix and prime Tv smoothly here, and runs Stan OK as long as nothing else is connected to hotspot. Stan seems to freeze if I connect ps4 to download game.I only paid $4 for 35gb 180 days
So basically you don't use the internet but you think your mobile phone can replace fibre.
OK.
The recent NBN report by S&P used the assumption that around 30% of the country will ditch fixed line internet access once 5G goes mainstream.
How accurate that will be is anyone's guess but its fair to say that the requirement for residential fixed line internet access will be much reduced for many, just as fixed line telephony is today.
50 billion only enough for 5g rollout on metro area
another 1000 billion required for outside of metro area
when 5g obsolete , you need another 2000 billion for new 6g infrastructure
(different technology, cannot upgrade from old hardware)
*That is assuming they solved the user saturation issue - when too many users connected to single tower ; all hell breaks loose.
*And, $ quoted are just examples, but you get the idea.
*Lastly, Pings are shit.