Expectable Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 Availability

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  Rochie on 30/08/2018 - 21:39

  I am also in the market for a new phone. I have done a day of research deciding which way to go. My budget is around $300. From what I have gathered the nokia 6.1 is a beast for the price. My main issue staying away from most of the xiaomi phones is they don't support band 28. THe nokia is currently going for $287.10 on ebay. Was comparing it to the moto g6 but they are more expensive and like the design of the nokia more. Probably a bit below the type of phone you are looking for but definitely seems like a solid pickup for the low to mid-range phones.

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    Kangal on 31/08/2018 - 16:08

    Just note that Specifications do matter to a great extent. Here's a list of SoC's or Processors and how they perform.

    Position - Chipset: Single-core / Multicore / IceStorm Unlimited

    31? - Helio P23: 800 / 3,800 / 12,000

    28 - QSD 625: 900 / 3,900 / 13,000
    25 - Exy 7420: 1,300 / 4,100 / 16,000
    24 - Helio X20: 1,500 / 4,500 / 10,000
    23 - Helio X23: 1,600 / 4,500 / 11,000
    22 - Helio X25: 1,700 / 4,500 / 11,000
    21 - Helio X27: 1,700 / 4,600 / 12,000
    20 - Exy 7885: 1,500 / 4,500 / 15,000

    18 - QSD 636: 1,400 / 5,000 / 17,000
    17 - QSD 670: 1,700 / 5,100 / 18,000
    16 - Kirin 710: 1,600 / 5,400 / ?
    15 - QSD 660: 1,600 / 5,700 / 18,000
    14 - QSD 820: 1,700 / 4,300 / 20,000
    13 - Kirin 950: 1,700 / 5,200 / 15,000
    12 - Kirin 955: 1,700 / 5,300 / 16,000
    11 - QSD 710: 1,900 / 5,800 / 19,000
    10 - Helio X30: 2,000 / 5,600 / 14,000
    9 - QSD 821: 1,900 / 4,400 / 21,000

    7 - Exy 8890: 1,800 / 5,600 / 19,000
    6 - Kirin 960: 1,800 / 6,300 / 15,000
    5 - Exy 8895: 2,000 / 6,600 / 21,000
    4 - Kirin 970: 1,900 / 6,800 / 21,000
    3 - QSD 835: 2,000 / 6,700 / 24,000
    2 - Exy 9810: 3,600 / 8,800 / 26,000 (unsustainable thermals)
    1 - QSD 845: 2,500 / 8,900 / 31,000

    (to be announced/tested: Kirin 980, QSD 855, Exynos 9910)

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      Rochie on 31/08/2018 - 16:17

      To be honest, I don't use my phone a whole lot. Where does the QSD 630 come on that list? somewhere between 625 and 636?

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        Kangal on 31/08/2018 - 18:19

        The QSD 625 is a low-end SoC.
        Costs around $1 to make, and is sold for around $11 to OEMs in bulk. It's exactly the same as the QSD 626 / 630 / 632 (very minor differences). So yeah, don't get a new phone with the QSD 630 as its either obsolete already or its in the low-end segment and so the phone should be very cheap (<AU$200). In comparison, a "very" old QSD 800 SoC is much faster in the GPU and Single-thread performance, the two most important aspects of the processor. However, the QSD 625 does edge out in the multi-core benchmarks, which isn't as important, and it achieves it simply because it has 4 more cores. However, the QSD 625 and its variants do use much less power/battery.

        At the minimum, you should aim for the QSD 636.
        It doesn't seem like a big difference in nomenclature… however its much better as it has proper Cortex A73 "BIG cores". You can tell by comparing their single-threaded performance, which is around +60% faster.

        The QSD 660 is an overclocked QSD 636, its a good processor.
        Qualcomm wants to replace these two with the new QSD 670 and the QSD 710 brothers.
        All four of these processors are great for real-world practical use, and are close to the performance of the "old" QSD 820 / 821. Which means they are much faster than the "very old" QSD 800 / 801 / 805 processors, whilst using less power too.

        And if you want high-end you should either wait for the Huawei Mate10 and its Kirin 980 SoC, or get a phone with a QSD 845 now.
        There's no reason to have to settle for a QSD 835 or a Kirin 970 processor in the high-end market, since the QSD 845 is universally superior (single, multi, gpu, driver support, hackability/community) and its available in affordable price brackets too.

        PS not to mention the QSD 845 chipset can allow you to do proper GameCube/Wii emulation, whereas the Exynos/Kirin/QSD 835 struggle to do so. That's the one-thing I can come up with, in which it separates the QSD 845 from the other chips from a practical/real-world use difference. Though none of them can properly emulate PS2 titles, that would probably be achievable in 2020. And don't expect to see the PS3 and Switch emulators for Android anytime soon.

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        Rochie on 31/08/2018 - 21:46

        @Kangal: Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I had lost my phone and needed to order something asap. My budget was $300 and it seemed like the best choice for that price range. It won't be used for anything high end just day to day tasks and maybe a couple apps/games if that.

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    apokalypsez on 05/01/2019 - 12:30

    i'm also need new phone…nokia 6.1 dual sims version? seems nokia 6.1 has NFC while nokia 6.1 plus isn't….

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  Kangal on 30/08/2018 - 21:46

  Don't get it.
  If its unveiled on September 15, it will probably be open to preorders and they usually hit the ~200,000 unit marks. And by late-September it should start popping up on sites like Aliexpress, Banggood, GearBest, Geekbuying, etc etc. Reviews should be available in early October, that's when you can make up your mind. At that point its probably too late for you to buy it (shipping usually takes 5 weeks from China, thanks AusPost).

  However, you could probably buy it in Vietnam.

  So far I'm not too impressed by the PocoF1. Maybe you won't get either, there is the OnePlus 6t that is coming soon.

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    chossenger on 31/08/2018 - 10:23

    Yeah, not getting the Poco, NFC is a dealbreaker for me, otherwise I might have considered it on value alone.

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      apokalypsez on 03/01/2019 - 21:08

      same here bro…i have being hearing poco one of best phone out there but doesn't have NFC.

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  Kangal on 15/03/2019 - 03:50

  Here's an update to my previous list (for those interested).
  *A balanced SoC is most desired, with importance given to IPC, then Total CPU, and finally Graphical Powress
  *thermals and battery life taken into account when positioning
  *scores are based on averages, and rounded up/down, due to variance of handsets
  *some scores are not properly available (?), but an estimate is provided.

  Abbreviations:
  Apple Ax = iPhone processor
  Tegra = Nvidia Tegra processor
  QSD = Qualcomm Snapdragon
  Exy = Samsung Exynos
  Kirin = HiSillicon Kirin
  Helio = MediaTek Helio
  RK = RockChip

  Position - Chipset Name…….. CPU single-core / CPU multi-thread / GPU performance
  (2011)
  82 - Tegra 3……………………. 300 / 1,100 / 7,000
  81 - Exynos 4412…………….. 400 / 1,100 / 6,000
  80 - QSD 400…………………. 500 / 1,600 / 11,000 (Krait-200 S4 Pro)
  79 - QSD 600…………………. 600 / 2,000 / 12,000
  78 - Apple A6 (?)…………….. 700 / 1,300 / 8,000

  76 - Helio P20………………… 800 / 3,400 / 11,000
  75 - Helio P22………………… 800 / 3,500 / 11,000
  74 - QSD 429…………………. 800 / 3,600 / 11,000
  73 - QSD 439…………………. 800 / 3,700 / 11,000
  72 - QSD 450………………… 800 / 3,700 / 12,000
  71 - Helio P23………………… 800 / 3,800 / 12,000
  70 - Helio P25………………… 800 / 3,800 / 14,000
  69 - QSD 625…………………. 800 / 3,900 / 13,000
  68 - Helio P30………………… 900 / 3,900 / 15,000
  67 - QSD 626………………… 900 / 4,200 / 14,000
  66 - Helio P35………………… 900 / 3,900 / 17,000
  65 - QSD 630………………… 900 / 4,300 / 15,000

  63- Exynos 5420……………. 900 / 2,700 / 13,000
  62 - Exynos 5430…………… 900 / 2,900 / 14,000
  61 - QSD 800………………. 1,000 / 2,800 / 13,000
  60 - RK3288………………… 1,100 / 2,800 / 15,000
  59 - QSD 801……………….. 1,100 / 3,000 / 15,000
  58 - Tegra 4…………………. 1,100 / 2,900 / 17,000
  57 - QSD 808 (?)…………… 1,300 / 3,600 / 14,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  56 - QSD 810 (?)…………… 1,300 / 4,500 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  55 - QSD 805……………….. 1,200 / 3,400 / 18,000
  54 - QSD 632……………….. 1,200 / 4,400 / 16,000

  52 - Apple A7 (?)…………… 1,500 / 2,900 / 12,000
  51 - Exynos 5433………….. 1,200 / 4,200 / 16,000
  50 - Tegra K1-32bit (?)…… 1,200 / 4,000 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  49 - QSD 650………………… 1,400 / 3,100 / 12,000
  48 - Helio X20……………….. 1,500 / 4,500 / 10,000
  47 - Apple A8 (?)…………… 1,600 / 3,100 / 14,000

  45 - Tegra K1-Denver (?)… 1,900 / 4,100 / 19,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  44 - RK3399 (?)…………….. 1,400 / 3,700 / 11,000
  43 - QSD 652……………….. 1,400 / 4,600 / 12,000
  42 - QSD 653……………….. 1,400 / 4,700 / 13,000
  41 - Exynos 7420………….. 1,300 / 4,500 / 18,000
  40 - Tegra X1 (?)……………. 1,400 / 4,700 / 24,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  39 - Helio X23……………….. 1,600 / 4,500 / 11,000
  38 - Helio X25……………….. 1,700 / 4,500 / 11,000
  37 - Helio X27………………… 1,700 / 4,600 / 12,000
  36 - Exynos 7885…………… 1,500 / 4,500 / 15,000

  34 - QSD 636………………… 1,400 / 5,000 / 17,000
  33 - Kirin 710…………………. 1,600 / 5,400 / 16,000
  32 - QSD 670…………………. 1,700 / 5,300 / 18,000
  31 - QSD 660………………… 1,600 / 5,700 / 18,000
  30 - QSD 820………………… 1,700 / 4,300 / 20,000 (underclocked)

  28 - Kirin 950………………… 1,700 / 5,200 / 15,000
  27 - Helio P60……………….. 1,500 / 5,700 / 18,000
  26 - Kirin 955………………… 1,700 / 5,300 / 16,000
  25 - Helio P70………………… 1,600 / 5,900 / 18,000
  24 - Helio X30……………….. 2,000 / 5,600 / 14,000
  23 - QSD 675…………………. 1,900 / 5,900 / 17,000
  22 - QSD 710…………………. 1,900 / 5,600 / 19,000
  21 - QSD 821………………….. 1,900 / 4,400 / 22,000 (overclocked)
  20 - Apple A9 (?)…………….. 2,200 / 4,600 / 16,000

  18 - QSD 712………………….. 1,900 / 5,700 / 20,000
  17 - Exynos 8890……………. 1,800 / 5,900 / 19,000
  16 - Kirin 960…………………. 1,800 / 6,400 / 15,000
  15 - Helio P90………………… 1,900 / 5,900 / 19,000

  13 - Exynos 8895……………. 2,000 / 6,700 / 21,000
  12 - Kirin 970………………….. 1,900 / 6,900 / 21,000
  11 - QSD 835………………….. 2,000 / 6,800 / 25,000
  10 - Exynos 9810 (?)……….. 3,600 / 8,800 / 26,000 (unsustainable thermals)
  9 - Exynos 9820 (?)………… 4,500 / 9,900 / 29,000 (unsustainable thermals)

  7 - Apple A10 (?)……………… 3,400 / 6,100 / 20,000
  6 - QSD 845…………………… 2,500 / 8,900 / 33,000
  5 - Kirin 980…………………… 3,200 / 10,000 / 28,000
  4 - QSD 855…………………… 3,500 / 12,000 / 38,000

  2 - Apple A11 (?)……………… 4,100 / 10,000 / 24,000
  1 - Apple A12 (?)……………… 4,800 / 12,000 / 27,000
  (2020)

  edit: may update in future to include more SoC's (eg AMLogic, Allwinner, iPad SoC's, and obscure Snapdragon SoC's like the dreaded QSD 617)