Comparison about School Ranking between QLD and NSW

codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 08:49

Hi everyone,

I am thinking about moving from Sydney to Brisbane. The other thing I work out is better life style, less stress in debt, nearly same savings per month (although less salary compared with jobs in Sydney). But the only thing I concern that the education system is a little bit different. There is something I ask people (in Sydney) and friend (in Brisbane).

My coworkers in Sydney said that the kids have less challenge and new opportunities to new things like STEAM, robotics (my kids love these things). Also, they said that even for the kid has best score in high school in Brisbane, is less competent like kid who studies in Sydney, since they expose to more activities and more challenges from peers. The third point is that if my kid in the future want to move back to Sydney to work, my coworker said that my kid will have a hard time, since the skills and competencies in Brisbane are not matched with fast pace in technology in Sydney. (is that true?)

My friend in Brisbane studied and stayed in this city nearly 20 years, he said the education is not much different, kid can find job well.

Sorry I don't start this thread to offend people who live and work in Brisbane, I myself want to relocate to Brisbane so just want to hear many opinions as possible to make the decision.
So anyone experience in these 2 cities, can give me some advice? Is my coworkers comments valid or not?

Thanks

Education & Work

Comments

  • FattyHope on 07/09/2018 - 09:42
    +1

    If your kids are going to high school soon and you plan to come to brisbane, you should look into schools like Brisbane state grammar, QASMT and QACI. Queensland academics only do IB though you should keep that in mind since IB is more challenging.

    https://ibaustralasia.org/schools/NSW
    https://qa.eq.edu.au/

    • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 12:43

      Thanks for the links, those look like private schools.

      • FattyHope on 08/09/2018 - 19:56

        QASMT and QACI are both public schools, but from what I know they accept 150 kids in each year level (Grade 10-12 for QACI) and (Grade 7-12 for QASMT), you need to do an entrance exam to get into the Queensland Academy schools. I'm not quiet sure about Brisbane gammar though, but these are pretty well known schools in the CBD area.

  • mrmark1970 on 07/09/2018 - 10:24

    Maybe on average Brisbane has a more leisurely pace than Sydney, but I'm sure there would be some great schools for science and maths.

    Have you looked at myschool for schools in the area you might be moving to in Brisbane?

    • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 12:53

      Yes, I look at that, Wishart, Mansfield and Coorparoo, Holland park…

      These produced good results over years, but I cannot find results for science and maths for those schools.

  • Peter Enis on 07/09/2018 - 10:26
    +2

    Well the NAPLAN results are national so if you put any value in them, simply compare schools in the various Brisbane/Sydney suburbs where you live or are likely to live.
    Are you thinking public or private education?

    • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 12:57

      I think about public school at the moment, have 2 kids so if going through private paths can cause some financial issues :)

      Do you think the schools in Sydney and Brisbane which has 99 points in bettereducations, perform nearly the same result, improving skills, knowledge and competencies?

      Because in Sydney, schools like 96 and 99 has a big difference. For 96 schools, reading level maximum is 23, but in 99 schools, reading level average is 23. That's just only for reading.

  • HighAndDry on 07/09/2018 - 10:40
    +1

    Going off of musthazbargains NAPLAN idea:

    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/queensl…

    After disastrous test results in the early years of the national standardised education test saw the state outperforming only the Northern Territory, the latest figures were fast catching NSW, Victoria and the ACT for average results in most categories.

    So uh… QLD is at least catching up lately? Just not in writing apparently.

    • djkelly69 on 07/09/2018 - 11:16

      Just not in writing apparently.

      Hahaha

      • HighAndDry on 07/09/2018 - 11:17

        As long as OP doesn't mind their kids' writing not is so good, it's fine.

        • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 12:58

          I found that writing is one of the most important and basic skills need to master to be success. Let simple, apply for job.

    • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 12:58

      Such a disappointing result :(

      • HighAndDry on 07/09/2018 - 13:02
        +1

        It is, can't deny that. But educational achievement and general life success is definitely more reliant on the individual. The NAPLAN is honestly (imo) too wide and broad a measure to give any real guide because I'm sure a good school in QLD will still outperform a bad school in NSW.

        Add in other factors like level of parental engagement, friends network, and I think state-by-state differences will probably be drowned out to form only a small part of the equation. You're not moving from Australia to Zimbabwe (no offence to any Boers(?)), the educational system in QLD is still world-class.

        • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 21:36

          I also not believe 100% in NAPLAN, just think it as a factor to evaluate school.

          Doing more research and found that we as a parent, do not have an official site to know about the detail curriculum of each class, each school, which books, materials they are using to study,… so we can follow our kids and understand if they have problems.

          Do Australia have any system like this?

  • Gandalf the Thrifty on 07/09/2018 - 13:01
    +1

    The third point is that if my kid in the future want to move back to Sydney to work, my coworker said that my kid will have a hard time

    Think your co-worker had a Lobotomy if they honestly believe this.
    By that logic no one from Australia could work in New York, London or Silicon Valley etc as they are so far advanced in technology. But many do and earn heaps.

    I know plenty of people from Qld who worked in Sydney for several years, that are all now happily back in Brisbane.

    • Baghern on 07/09/2018 - 13:47
      -2

      Just harder, not impossible… its called playing catch up…

      We have had successful Brisbane workers who have moved down to Sydney head office for more opportunities… but they're the top of the cream…

      I'm pretty sure the average Brisbane, like the average Melbournite (who I refer to as potheads) would struggle to.

      Then again, I also would struggle if i were to move to be a farmer… different environment, different exposure.

      We're not New York fast pace, but Sydney is very fast pace compared to the rest of Australia

      Every time we have National conferences, and the other States come to Sydney, I'm always amazed at how much more relax/laid back most of them are…

    • shaybisc on 07/09/2018 - 18:14

      Get those poor kids out of the intellectual desert of Sydney immediately and send them to Singapore.

  • Boscojack on 07/09/2018 - 14:37
    +1

    There are some great private schools in in Brisbane if you want to go that way, my son's school has a large focus on STEAM subjects.

    If you are after state schools then Brisbane State high is the prize jewel, but Cavendish road, the Gap State high, and Kelvin Grove are all good. I am unfamiliar with schools on the far north, south and eastern sides but I am sure there will be good ones.

    As for not being able to work in Sydney, that is not accurate. I went to Brisbane State High and have a great job that has sent me all over QLD and Australia, my husband went to a pretty dodgy state school and has a great job too, although he worked very hard to get where he is (we are both scientists). I have friends I went to school with that work all over Australia the globe. The high school we went to has not been anywhere near as important as the University. If your kid is academic, they will be academic anywhere, the key is finding the school that will help them grow in the areas that interest them. I went to the only school in QLD that offered Earth Science (that wasn't an all boys school) and it changed my life profoundly.

    I have a couple of friends (and one of my siblings) that had great jobs in Sydney and Melbourne and London and they all came home to Brisbane to raise their kids. Not one of them has ever expressed regret at that but Brisbane was always their home.

    There are some terrible schools but there are some real gems too, and remember the Naplan results can be very misleading.

    • Gandalf the Thrifty on 07/09/2018 - 18:14

      I only knew of STEM subjects but actually is STEAM which includes Arts.
      OzB is so educational.

    • codinghelloworld on 07/09/2018 - 21:53

      Thank you for your great input. As my kids just in primary school, the suburbs I am after are Kelvin grove, Nundah, Coorparoo, Wishart, Mansfield,… Can I ask which schools your kid is studying, which has STEAM subjects?

      Thanks

      • Boscojack on 08/09/2018 - 14:07
        +1

        My son is in year one and goes to Springfield Anglican school. The state schools around us are not the best so we went the private option. He is only little but going forward the school has some excellent science and arts programs for the kids.

        If it is primary schools you are after, don't discount the western suburbs - Fig Tree Pocket, Ironside, Chapel Hill, Indooroopilly, Bardon, Rainworth and Ashgrove are all great state schools. The state high schools in the west are some of the better ones too. I am not familiar with the Mansfield - Coorparoo area but I have heard good things. Kelvin Grove I know is great and the high school is very sought after.

        If you are going to use a state high school then consider this when choosing a primary school/place to live. Most of the better state high schools are almost impossible to get into if you live out of catchment. There is also a new high school going in at Dutton Park in the next few years which will change the inner city catchments.

  • SharkBait on 07/09/2018 - 15:43
    +1

    The third point is that if my kid in the future want to move back to Sydney to work, my coworker said that my kid will have a hard time, since the skills and competencies in Brisbane are not matched with fast pace in technology in Sydney.

    You're completely overthinking this. You're speaking as if Brisbane and Sydney are two completely different places, with totally different cultures and education standards. Brisbane isn't some third-world country. If your kid works hard, shows initiative, and develops good communication skills they'll be fine no matter where they go.

    Having said that, you'll want to do some research into what different schools offer because the difference between a good school and crap school can be huge for your kid. However, that's true in both cities.

    Source: Someone who grew up in Brisbane, built a career for himself, moved to Sydney, and is doing great. Also someone who has plenty of friends who moved interstate from Brisbane for work.

    • shaybisc on 07/09/2018 - 18:18

      Your friends are talking utter bollocks. How did they acquire their expert knowledge of Brisbane high schools?

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