Adelaide or Melbourne? Please help us choose.

Chandragupt on 10/09/2018 - 18:07
Last edited 10/09/2018 - 18:42 by 1 other user

We are a couple and in our late 20s. I used to live in Melbourne while studying but then moved to Adelaide(for residency) and in the beginning, I hated it. But I have to admit, a year down and we are in love. Adelaide is really good to live and easy to commute. It's limited but certainly good.

The issue is that now we are thinking about buying a home and the pricing seems almost the same 35K away from the city in Melbourne(Western suburbs like Point Cook etc) and 8K away from the city in Adelaide.

Could OZ Bargain help us to logically see the difference?

Thank you so much!

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  • MrRobot on 10/09/2018 - 19:53

    I'm American and wife is from Adelaide. We met when we were both living in New York. We moved to Adelaide 7 years ago. At first, I hated it. Now I'm proud to call it home. Adelaide is the best of both worlds. It has all the advantages of a big city (as long as you can get past shops shutting at 5pm) without any of the hassle. Virtually everything is cheaper, its less crowded, its easier to get around (although public transport is a bit lacking).
    People who say that Adelaide is "boring" or that there "isn't anything going on" has, in my opinion, never spent any real time in Adelaide. To put it simply, there's always stuff going on, but if you prefer to hang in and have a quiet one, you totally can (this option is what makes Adelaide so good). My wife's sister and many of our friends live in Melbourne so we're there fairly frequently. Even though Melbourne is more similar to New York than Adelaide, I always leave thankful that we live in Adelaide.
    If you need any more proof that Adelaide trumps Melbourne, check out what Josh Homme from Queens of the Stone Age said about Melbourne:
    http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/watch-josh-homme-throw-shade-a…

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    • ATangk on 13/09/2018 - 13:53

      Shops shut at 5pm everywhere.

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      • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 13:55

        Not in Sydney; smaller shopping centres open until 5:30 and major ones like Parramatta close at 6

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        • ATangk on 13/09/2018 - 13:56

          6pm?

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        • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 13:58

          @ATangk: Yeah. Except during the days before Christmas where they do 34-hour trading in the case of Parramatta

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        • ATangk on 13/09/2018 - 14:00

          @kerfuffle:

          But most shops that arent major retailers or in large shopping centres shut at 5pm anyways. Special occassions like Boxing day sales don't really count.

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        • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 14:15

          @ATangk: Not in Sydney …

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        • ATangk on 13/09/2018 - 15:31

          @kerfuffle:
          Which special place in Sydney do you live in? Its not the case for most of us m8.

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    • slow on 14/09/2018 - 08:56

      Well Josh Homme is god and QOTSA are the best band in the world, so must mean something
      But I am sure that when I saw them at Festival Hall last time they were here he said that Melbourne was his favorite city and like home to him.
      And his wife is from Melbourne.

      I have lived in London, San Francisco, Cape Town, Perth, and Melbourne is the best city in the world

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  • trev likes bargains on 11/09/2018 - 21:59

    I prefer if less people move to Adelaide so that I can enjoy it the way it is. What can I say, I'm selfish

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    • AngusD on 12/09/2018 - 09:10

      I wish that I could upvote this comment more than once.

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  • DeeTrance on 10/09/2018 - 21:47

    As a former Adelaide boy now living in Melbourne, I would retire in Adelaide, but not yet, Melbourne is still too good for another 40 years.
    I want my kids to go to certain selected schools in Melbourne, enter some extracurricular programs and access more choices as far as university is concerned.

    You have to decide which of the following metrics are more important to you:

    • Economic strength
    • Education (Look where Australia's Universities are ranked on the world stage)
    • Healthcare
    • Infrastructure
    • Sporting events
    • Outdoor activities (Hiking, Fishing, Mountain biking, Skiing, Snowboarding etc)
    • Clean water (seriously, Melbourne probably has the best water supply I've tried out of all the major capital cities)
    • Living expenses
    • Whatever other metrics you want to use, such as those used by the Economist Intelligence Unit to rank the World's Most Liveable Cities
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    • Chewiebacca on 12/09/2018 - 00:37

      Great post, agree on the water part very much!

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  • Drj55 on 11/09/2018 - 13:44

    Are you planning on kids?

    Home is where the grandparents are!!

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    • mini2 on 13/09/2018 - 15:33

      Home is where the grandparents are!!

      More like help is where the grandparents are ;-)

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  • OpenHand on 10/09/2018 - 19:23

    I'm from Adelaide and moved to Melbourne for work three years ago.

    I would say Adelaide if you can get a reliable job there. Great place to live, heaps of good food and plenty of things to do if you are prepared to make some effort and find out what that is.

    You can live life fast or slow depending on what you like. Transport is good enough; there's nothing I can get in Melbourne that I can't get in Adelaide; there's more good bars and restaurants than you can keep up with anyway, so even though it may be less bustling than Melbourne, it doesn't really make a difference on a human level. Good festivals and arts all year around.

    Importantly for me, access to nature and outdoors - e.g. beaches, camp grounds, countryside, is all much easier than living in Victoria.

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    • JimmyF on 10/09/2018 - 20:19

      there's nothing I can get in Melbourne that I can't get in Adelaide

      Other than a job to the sounds of it ;)

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      • lewislardboy on 12/09/2018 - 17:35

        @JimmyF — you seem really hung up on the job thing. What industry are you in?

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    • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 08:26

      there's nothing I can get in Melbourne that I can't get in Adelaide

      UNIQLO, Sephora, a Zara in the city (yes I know there's one in Marion) … They're all lacking in Adelaide if you wanted to shop in person and not online

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      • OpenHand on 13/09/2018 - 09:22

        Depends what you're into. I like Uniqlo but I'm happy to do one or two big shops there a year. If you travel for work or pleasure at all they're at most of the big stopovers / you'll end up interstate with some free time anyway.

        In the end it's whatever floats your boat, I prefer an easy lifestyle over access to a few shops, but everything has their own thing!

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  • ozboygsl on 11/09/2018 - 08:50

    Having commuted between the 2 ( I'm based in Adelaide and have been going to ego central , aka melbourne about every month ). I prefer Adelaide hands down. I have a well paid job and can get to it easily . the traffic in melb, particularly outer suburbs, is incredibly time consuming. Whilst not perfect, and we did give Australia it's dopiest politician( s.h.y. ) we are nowhere as backward as melb in the pc b's stakes. ie when cops are told to not arrest left wing protesters and allow packs of Sudanese to do whatever they want ( my sister in law is a cop…. believe me… the average member of the public has no idea of what this crowd is doing ). Aydd to that melbs weather.. 4 seasons in a day . Give me Adelaide any day,

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    • gazza the great on 11/09/2018 - 19:43

      Apart from shy don't forget we also gave Australia Christopher Whine.

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    • mini2 on 13/09/2018 - 15:35

      Radelaide ain't that bad if you can score a cushy government job there, even more cushy and more cash in your pocket than Canberra.

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  • kerfuffle on 10/09/2018 - 18:30

    As someone who's been to both: if you like shopping and business, Melbourne (I'm from Sydney and it still floors me that the shops close at 5 on Sundays in SA, even supermarkets).

    If you like eating and drinking and a slower pace of life, Adelaide (plus 8km is so close to the city!)

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    • kingmw on 12/09/2018 - 20:38

      And doesn't open until 11am on Sundays! Talk about a sleep-in!!

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      • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 08:24

        I think it's because they have church, Adelaide being the City of Churches

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        • Indomietable on 14/09/2018 - 01:18

          Is that the nightclub?

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    • HighAndDry on 10/09/2018 - 18:44

      Basically this yeah. And I guess this doesn't affect OP (if they're a doctor?), but "business" kind of includes jobs.

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      • kerfuffle on 10/09/2018 - 18:46

        Oops, I meant to write busyness but can't spell i.e. a fast-paced city

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  • AngusD on 12/09/2018 - 09:09

    Assuming you're in a normal kind of line of work (ie one that doesn't pay high 6-figures $$$ or above each year, in which case you can afford to live wherever the hell you like), then financially Adelaide is the better choice assuming you can find work. I work in IT and live in Adelaide and I've been out of work for a total of about 6 weeks in the past 20 years. Similar story for my wife - she works in the food manufacturing industry and has spent even less time out of work than I have. End result is that our house is basically paid off and we've also been able to build a decent base of savings / investments to give us some security for the future. Neither of us are really big city people, although my wife grew up in Kuala Lumpur so it's not like she hasn't lived in big cities. She found it an adjustment at first but now she loves it and doesn't really like going back to the relative chaos of bigger cities like KL, Sydney, Melbourne, etc.

    Leaving aside the financials and talking lifestyle, if you want the big city experience then obviously Melbourne is the better choice. If you want something more laid back, less crowded, less noisy, easier commuting etc, then Adelaide is the better option. While Adelaide is a little quieter, it's only a 1 hour flight to Melbourne so if Adelaide misses out on something (e.g. there are times when a musician I like has been touring but only doing the east coast) then it's easy and cheap enough to hop over there for a day or a weekend, so you don't really miss out on much.

    So for me, it's pretty simple - as long as I can find steady full-time work in Adelaide, I wouldn't dream of moving. If I found myself in a position where I couldn't find work then I'd have to consider Melbourne or maybe Brisbane (but not Sydney I'd die first :P). But that would probably just be to get me to the point where I was ready (and could afford) to retire, in which case I'd probably be on the first plane back to Adelaide.

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  • JimmyF on 10/09/2018 - 18:29

    Could OZ Bargain help us to logically see the difference?

    Melbourne has work, Adelaide doesn't.

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    • oscargamer on 10/09/2018 - 19:33

      says the person from Melbourne….

      Adelaide is laid back, Melbourne is self indulgent

      Adelaide has style, Melbourne has graffiti laneways

      Adelaide is 'relaxed country', Melbourne is 'angry city'

      Adelaide - not likely to be stabbed/raped/assaulted. Melbourne - not likely to spend a relaxed evening not looking over your shoulder

      ….and I have no ties to either and have spent time in both

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      • JimmyF on 10/09/2018 - 20:18

        All points that I didn't touch on. I noticed you also didn't address the only single thing I did raise, and that is employment.

        The unemployment rate for the City of Adelaide is 6.67% vs 5% for Melbourne.

        There is nothing wrong with Adelaide if you can find work. For my field of work, Adelaide is dead, so not really a choice if I can live in Adelaide, but more of a choice do I want to have a job or not.

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        • oscargamer on 10/09/2018 - 20:40

          Precisely my point.

          YOUR work has nothing in Adelaide. Did you ask the OP their field? No. Your comment was a blanket "Melbourne has work, Adelaide doesn't."

          BIT OF A OVERSTATEMENT perhaps?

          By your figures……..

          Adelaide population 1.2 mil = 80,000 unemployed

          Melb population 4.8 mil = 240,000 unemployed

          Your post was all about you. Not about OP or the working person in general. Bigger picture Jimmy

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        • oscargamer on 11/09/2018 - 16:01

          @tshow:

          Don't disagree.

          I have heard of sea-change and tree-change. Haven't heard of city-change (with reference to retiring). Not sure many people would want to 'retire' to Melbourne, if they haven't lived there during their working life.

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        • [Deactivated] on 11/09/2018 - 10:47

          @oscargamer:
          I think part of the big picture is

          You can work in Melbourne, retire, sell and get an upgrade in a similar socio demographics in Adelaide.

          Or

          You can work in Adelaide, retire, sell and accept a massive downgrade in Melbourne.

          Just sold a landed property near St Peters cathedral in Adelaide (so we are talking up market) and that would buy me an average place in SE Melbourne (which I consider middle middle)

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        • JimmyF on 10/09/2018 - 22:13

          @oscargamer:

          BIT OF A OVERSTATEMENT perhaps?

          Ummm your reply is a overstatement.

          The simple fact is, the unemployment rate figure covers ALL fields of work is higher in Adelaide than Melbourne. I'm perplex as why you find that statement so offence.

          "Melbourne has work, Adelaide doesn't."

          This statement is correct.

          Your post was all about you

          More overstatement dribble. It had nothing to do about me and all about simple employment facts.

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        • oscargamer on 11/09/2018 - 17:15

          @tshow:

          Not going to argue. If that happens, we'll move again, but in the meantime I'll live my live, with a job (the wife even has a job outside of Melbourne !!!!) in a lovely town where my kids walk everywhere, safely, in clean quiet air, we know most everyone and I even leave my door unlocked ! (The dogs can take care of anyone that wants to come in without permission)

          Each to their own

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        • [Deactivated] on 11/09/2018 - 16:36

          @oscargamer:
          In my field of work, I see a lot of this.

          When people/spouses get old, or kids have medical needs, you need to be close to facilities.

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        • [Deactivated] on 11/09/2018 - 17:27

          @oscargamer:
          Can't say my life is too different from yours. I'm also coastal and I am willing to travel a bit for work so I can have an unlocked door.

          My dogs are not security level dogs. About as a terrifying as an unattended buffet table.

          Just a few 9mm dispensers around to help me sleep better.

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        • oscargamer on 11/09/2018 - 18:00

          @tshow:

          I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when talking about my dogs. They would only leave you with a nasty dose of saliva, that's about it. But my door still remains unlocked.

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        • spook290 on 12/09/2018 - 09:04

          @oscargamer:
          Saying you're likely to be stabbed and raped in melbourne isn't an overstatement at all…

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        • oscargamer on 12/09/2018 - 09:07

          @spook290:

          Stabbed AND raped or maybe stabbed OR raped…..not sure, but either combo isn't great :)

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ORkoSWGFE

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        • iDroid on 13/09/2018 - 17:45

          @JimmyF: IMO, there's no shortage of work in Adelaide.

          Employment figures can be influenced by the number of people who choose to be unemployed.

          Figures rarely show the whole picture.

          Side note - Adelaide, a rather boring place to visit, but an excellent place to live.

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        • Donaldhump on 14/09/2018 - 13:13

          @oscargamer: JimmyF point is 100% appropriate. You have to live where work is, and for most big professions and careers, sydney or melbourne has more jobs, so hence why it is more expensive to live there. Howe many big corporations other than South Australia specific companies have their head offices in Adelaide.

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        • kingnunu on 14/09/2018 - 19:57

          @unclesnake: a majority of you are wrong about Adelaide. Being that it's going to be the only City in the near future to get gigabit fiber I see a majority of tech companies relocating there from Melbourne and Sydney. As a software engineer you also earn more in Adelaide and the dollar goes further. College grads in Melbourne and Sydney earn very little. Like 60,000 to start in places that probably cost 400-500 per week in rent is atrocious. That's not even living that's just basically working for free. You pay for food, bills and shelter. Salves were offered that when they used to work for their owners. Unfortunately there's always going to be that person that settles for less which hurts everyone else who thinks people should be earning more.

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        • Indomietable on 14/09/2018 - 22:13

          @kingnunu:
          Going by your logic no IT company staying in silicon valley?

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        • Donaldhump on 15/09/2018 - 08:14

          @kingnunu: dude you don’t earn more in Adelaide as a software engineer. I have been in it for 40 years, that is utter crap.

          Big companies will not move to Adelaide from Sydney and Melbourne.

          If you jag a good job in Adelaide that’s great butt Then what options do you have when you are made redundant which will happen a lot of over your life once you are over 40

          And if you want that speed network I can rent you an office right now with that speed 50m from the beach and airport

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        • kingnunu on 15/09/2018 - 14:58

          @unclesnake: actually you're wrong about tech companies not wanting to move there. And yes starting salaries for entry level jobs are very similar. Maybe 10 percent more in Sydney and Melbourne but is it worth renting a place for nearly twice as much?. I moved here from Los Angeles for similar reasons. Getting like 80k usd but having to pay like 2.4k a month for a single bedroom close to work wasn't worth it. Especially after spending like 25k in taxes. Silicon valley is even worse. In silicon valley you are technically in poverty if you earn less than 120k a year…

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        • Donaldhump on 15/09/2018 - 22:30

          @kingnunu: Melbourne rent house for 400 a week 30 min from cbd. Earn 130k

          Rent in Adelaide 300 if even that cheap, earn 90k

          I’d rather the first. Especially given the sg over all the years.

          Melbourne loads of job

          Adelaide a handful

          And I am talking big companies that are big employers, majority in Sydney and then Melbourne

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        • kingnunu on 16/09/2018 - 16:08

          @unclesnake: like k me these jobs, for entry level software engineers. Not senior level. And where you find rent for 400 a week near Melbourne cbd because that's bull shit.

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        • Donaldhump on 16/09/2018 - 16:13

          @kingnunu: realestate.com.au look up Laverton,Werribee, Hoppers Crossing,Altona,Point cook. you can get an ok house there for $400

          https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-laverton-42…

          That is within 30 minutes on the train to a 130k a year job, which is a fair average for a decent skilled programmer etc. Which is acceptable as a daily commute.

          Took me all of 10 minutes to find them, and I have never lived in Melbourne. Suburb reviews are ok, they are not palaces and fantastic suburbs, but if that's all you can afford it is doable.

          so its not bullsh*t you just can't research

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        • Indomietable on 17/09/2018 - 23:05

          @kingnunu: You think with logic but unfortunately the opposite is true. Without specific reason to be in Adelaide, no IT company worth their salt will choose Adelaide as their HQ. The market, talent, and infrastructure just not up there with Melbourne or Sydney. I even think it's behind Goldcoast. I can't name one international IT company who has their Oceania HQ in Adelaide and not in Sydney or Melbourne. This is basically the same reason why retailers often prefer to open a store in shopping mall even if they have to pay more rent be next door to their competitors.

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        • kingnunu on 19/09/2018 - 07:24

          @pig: coming from Los Angeles adn San Francisco. A majority of companies in silicon valley have been moving out because of inse times offered by other states. Austin Texas is one of those places that has been doing it and they have been growing and developing faster because of it. So yes it is possible for companies to relocate when the cost of living for it's employees matters. People will move once they realize they can't afford to live there. I had a friend quit his job at Google because even though he was making 6 figures and working at the largest tech company he was living in a van because it's so expensive.

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      • HighAndDry on 11/09/2018 - 11:44

        All that's good and well, but useless if you can't find a job.

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      • JimmyF on 10/09/2018 - 22:14

        So oscargamer, why do you live in Melbourne then and not somewhere else?

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        • try2bhelpful on 10/09/2018 - 22:54

          Very good point. As someone else who lives in Melbourne I call horseshit on most of Oscar’s assertions. Not sure what Godforsaken hole he is living in, but Fitzroy is a brilliant place to live. My suggestion is we back out of the room, not make eye contact, and leave him muttering to himself.

          Not sure if Adelaide’s water has improved but Melbourne’s is great straight from the tap.

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        • oscargamer on 12/09/2018 - 09:27

          @JimmyF:

          Not at all. I thank Melbourne for being my first Aussie home town. Met the wife there. Had 2 kids. Bought first house and first dog.

          My comment is that Melbourne NOW, is not a very nice place to live in. Even in my short time there, it's become way too busy, too angry and not at all welcoming.

          All my 2c.

          Adelaide however, is what Melbourne was.

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        • JimmyF on 11/09/2018 - 20:56

          @oscargamer:

          Easier to say Melbourne, for all the ignoramuses that think VIC = Melbourne

          Clearly Melbourne hurt you bad, as you have a massive chip on your shoulder.

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        • Some Human on 11/09/2018 - 02:06

          @try2bhelpful:
          Unfortunately their water is still quite terrible.

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        • oscargamer on 11/09/2018 - 16:03

          I used to live in Melbourne, for 10 years after emigrating here. Moved 300km down the coast 6 years ago, to raise the kids in a better environment. But thanks for the question.

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        • oscargamer on 11/09/2018 - 17:16

          @JimmyF:

          If I was to name the town I lived in, no-one would know where it was. So why bother?

          Easier to say Melbourne, for all the ignoramuses that think VIC = Melbourne

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        • Mitch889 on 12/09/2018 - 16:37

          @oscargamer: you yourself said you don’t live in Melbourne NOW, having moved a long way away 6 years ago, so what would you know?

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        • [Deactivated] on 12/09/2018 - 18:25

          @oscargamer: That really depends where you live. If you drop a few mill on the inner South East, its a wonderful place to live.

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        • oscargamer on 12/09/2018 - 18:04

          @Mitch889:

          Go there regularly for business. Stay there regularly.

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        • JimmyF on 11/09/2018 - 16:56

          @oscargamer:

          I used to live in Melbourne

          and yet your profile still says you live in Melbourne.

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      • Pacify on 12/09/2018 - 00:13

        What a bizzare load of nonsense lmao

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      • Rohangiga on 12/09/2018 - 23:52

        Lol what BS. Melbourne is safe as… Don't listen to everything in the media. Adelaide would get boring as if you want to actaully get out and about. Melbourne also has much more "style"/ is way more "hipster". Not even going to touch on the other points

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      • Baghern on 17/09/2018 - 12:48

        Lol.. looked like someone took comparison between Sydney and Melbourne …

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    • a-friend on 13/09/2018 - 03:02

      Melbourne has 7 eleven, Adelaide doesn't. House ain't everything. We need fuel for our high yield investments.

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      • Cyphar on 13/09/2018 - 09:28

        ADL has OTR which I've always found to be far more superior than 7/11.

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  • schwinn on 12/09/2018 - 14:29

    Actually, I changed my mind. Adelaide is a horrible city.

    • Food is meh and overrated.
    • Unless you have a job in hand, no work.
    • Cars cost more than eastern states.
    • Kangaroos - more than people.
    • Open hours for shops are limited.
    • Far too many old people.
    • F***ing hot in summer.

    Well there is no reason to stay in Adelaide
    Even if you hate VIC trams, there are now more trams in the city.
    Reduced earning power is another issue.
    Every time you compare notes with another stater you'll realise this.

    For me, melbourne/sydney is the best.
    Unique and bustling, real arts.
    Lifestyle is bustling and metropolitan.
    Leaving Adelaide soon and heading there.

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    • SuperMid on 12/09/2018 - 20:51

      i remember being in adelaide for work, went to coles one morning around 10am, it was closed!

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    • codinghelloworld on 12/09/2018 - 16:18

      You changed your mind within 5 hours. How about Brisby comparing to Mel or Syd?

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      • schwinn on 12/09/2018 - 16:48

        Oops sorry forgot /sarcasm + hidden message

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    • lostn on 13/09/2018 - 00:50

      F***ing hot in summer.

      It's not exactly cold in Melb during summer either you know… You get 40+ regularly. I think a year or two ago we had 9 days consecutive of 30+.

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      • schwinn on 13/09/2018 - 01:37

        9 days of consecutive 30+ haha that's almost every year in Adelaide. Sometimes we have 5-7 days of 40+, that's why we say it's F***ing hot in summer.

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  • lostn on 13/09/2018 - 00:47

    I can't answer your question. But I just want to say that as a Melbournian, I want to know how our city got voted the world's most livable city once, much less 7 times in a row.

    What is good about it? There's so much that sucks. Our trains are crap, always delayed and crammed like sardines during peak hour. Japan's bullet trains are so much more advanced. And our PT ticketing system (Myki) is garbage and sucks for tourists because they have to buy a card to use even for a few days.

    Our roads are congested like a hayfever person's nose in spring time. Even after the morning rush. The SE freeway is bumper to bumper even after 10, 11AM sometimes.

    Everything's expensive also.

    If this is the most livable city, it leaves me very depressed about the livability of the rest of the world's cities.

    Health centers, hospitals, public dental.. all overloaded. Many GPs don't take new patients. You turn up on time for your appointment and often have to wait at least 45 minutes. Hospitals you could be waiting 12+ hours in emergency unless you're going to die in the next 5 minutes. Public dental, forget about it. Just about everything public is overloaded. I don't know how much of this is Melb centric or if it's an Australia wide problem. Probably the latter. To a tourist visiting Melb, they aren't going to care though. This should affect Melb's livability rating.

    As a resident, I think it's overrated as hell.

    You seem to have fallen in love with Adelaide. If you can find stable work there, maybe you should stay?

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    • Chewy Chunks on 13/09/2018 - 01:48

      As a fellow Melbournian I am inclined to agree. I think (profanity) hipsters painted a bit of a romantic picture of Melbourne to everyone and everyone fell for it. It is not anywhere near as sophisticated or trendy as many people think.

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      • lostn on 13/09/2018 - 11:12

        The city also looks ugly and outdated. Flinders St station and Fed Square. What an eyesore.

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        • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2018 - 00:31

          Flinders St Station already has plans finished and will be rebuilt soon

          Fed Square isn't old, it's just ugly

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    • [Deactivated] on 13/09/2018 - 07:08

      Imagine you are an expat moving to a foreign city. Money isn't an issue, you make 200k USD a year.

      How liveable is Melbourne now?

      This is how the survey is designed

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      • lostn on 13/09/2018 - 11:20

        To an Expat, any new place to live is always something to enjoy just because it's new and different, no matter what the locals think of it.

        I don't know what utility prices are in other states but Victorian Labor who have ruled for so long have given them so much power to rip us off. Costs inflate by a massive percentage each year (50% or thereabouts), and that smart meter they installed in every home which was designed to save the supplier/retailer money by being able to read your meter without sending people out? Makes sense if they invest money to save money right? But no, YOU are paying for the smart meter to save THEM money. They get to have their cake and eat it.

        I remember a few years back they changed the fire levy collecting from home insurance company to council rates. My rates went up by $300. Wow, that's an expensive fire levy. But I'll get it back when my Insurance goes down right? My insurance went down by $30-50. Either the insurer was ripping me off by not reducing the full levy amount, or the council is ripping me off by overcharging on the levy.

        In any case, the cost of living is very expensive, and anyone who charges you bills has a lot of power to raise prices by as much as they desire, and not the 3% CPI you expect.

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    • AngusD on 13/09/2018 - 10:22

      Not really fair to compare Japan's bullet trains to Melbourne's metropolitan trains. The bullet trains in Japan are for travel between cities - it's basically what you do instead of taking a domestic flight. And yes, it sh*ts all over flying as a mode of transportation, but it is expensive (especially if you're not using a Japan rail pass) and you're not taking the Shinkansen to work every day, you're just taking a regular commuter train.

      The commuter trains in Japan (Tokyo, at least) during peak hour are VERY crowded. But at least they're reliable, frequent, punctual and clean.

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      • lostn on 13/09/2018 - 11:23

        I just don't know if there's anything Melbourne does better than any other city.

        It's certainly not a bad place to live, but most livable? I want to know on what criteria they based that on. There are a lot of cities in the world. To be ranked the best place to live, it has to be something very special, and honestly I'm not seeing it. I've visited many cities that are much more beautiful than this, that I wouldn't mind moving to.

        It also just feels very… old.

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  • HighAndDry on 10/09/2018 - 18:43

    35K away from the city in Melbourne

    8K away from the city in Adelaide

    My arithmetic is a little rusty, bit seems like about 27K to me.

    That aside, it's pretty much down to: Melbourne is a bigger, more crowded, but also busier and more cosmopolitan city. I've only been to Adelaide once or twice, and… well it's quieter. But great wines!

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    • Solarlux on 11/09/2018 - 08:38

      35k Melbourne equates to about 2 hours commute.8k Adelaide equates to about 20 minutes commute. How much is your leisure time worth? Adelaide beaches are only at most 20 minutes from any suburb (except Mount Barker) and are world class although a bit cool but that means no stingers, Geelong beaches are freezing but nice to walk along. Adelaide is still the 20 minute city and you can still find car parking close to the cbd from only $4 a day.

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      • kerfuffle on 11/09/2018 - 08:43

        Not to mention you can go strawberry picking only half an hour or so away from the city in Adelaide! (Massive Beerenberg fan here and one of my main reasons why I went to Adelaide was so I could go pick strawberries at Beerenberg)

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        • schwinn on 13/09/2018 - 13:41

          @kerfuffle:
          Stop saying Adelaide is great. Too many people and it'll soon turn into Melbourne.

          Adelaide sucks! Stay away! Keep out!

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        • kerfuffle on 12/09/2018 - 14:28

          @lambo100: Within half an hour like Adelaide? Do tell

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        • unqualified89 on 13/09/2018 - 23:00

          @kerfuffle:
          You should move to Koonoomoo; their CBD is prettt much just a strawberry farm. And they have the world famous giant strawberry :)

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        • unqualified89 on 13/09/2018 - 12:11

          @kerfuffle:
          Lilydale, Bacchus Marsh, all through the Dandenongs

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        • unqualified89 on 13/09/2018 - 22:56

          You've got me there! I gave some examples for each side of the city because not everyone lives in the cbd. Lilydale and the dandenongs are 40ish mins from cbd on a decent run (google maps says 41) but yeah still not halfa. So yes you are right, adelaides strawberries are closer to the cbd! All the best with the picking.

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        • lambo100 on 12/09/2018 - 10:05

          You can do the same in Melbourne

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        • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 13:35

          @unqualified89: They aren’t within half an hour drive of Melbourne CBD though; they take at least fifty minutes to get there. Beerenberg Farm is literally half an hour’s drive from Adelaide CBD

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        • kerfuffle on 13/09/2018 - 13:41

          @schwinn: I'm a Sydneysider, so no great loss to me haha ;) (I could live in Melbourne but not Adelaide; a tad too quiet for my liking but I did enjoy it when I visited for the first time this year)

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  • Some Human on 10/09/2018 - 23:28

    Stay in Adelaide, Melbourne is full

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    • poohduck on 10/09/2018 - 23:42

      To the point :)

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    • Tony76 on 14/09/2018 - 06:47

      Melb Angeles.

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