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[WA] 6.4 kW Solar System $2,999 (Was $3,500) Fully Installed @ e-Solar

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[WA] 6.4 kW Solar System $2,999 (Was $3,500) Fully Installed @ e-Solar
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Associatede-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 17:16 esolar.com.au (408 clicks)
Last edited 15/09/2018 - 20:36 by 1 other user

20 x 320 W JA Solar Tier 1 Panels
5KW Goodwe Inverter - WiFi - Battery ready - 10 years Warranty
Fully installed

$2,999 - (Single phase meter, single storey in Perth Metro area)

Other brands of panels and inverters available on request. ABB add $500 Fronius add $700.

Anybody can sell… will they keep your system running and your electricity bills down?

This is why e-Solar supply only established brands from reputable manufacturers with proven record, not to mention experienced installers.

It takes few hours to install these systems professionally, but much less for cheaper hurried job with leaks when the rains come (this is probably why we might be slightly more expensive sometimes).

We are usually quite competitive …apples for apples and beyond, always trying our best to meet clients expectations.

Any time you call there is a person answering the phone addressing any questions or clarifications you might have, not to mention prompt technical support.

e-Solar has been involved exclusively in Solar and Renewable Energy for over 30 years. Hopefully we must be doing something right.

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  • Buddy195 on 15/09/2018 - 17:27
    +2

    How much extra would a decent Fronius inverter cost. Not many great reviews for the Goodwe stuff

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:28

      $700

  • liveish on 15/09/2018 - 17:32
    +2

    "E-Solar has been involved exclusively in Solar and Renewable Energy for over 30 years. Hopefully we must be doing something right."

    Your ABN says e-solar is not that old?

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:29

      e-Solar Australia since 2003, Africa, Middle East and Europe since 1987

  • alvian on 15/09/2018 - 17:40
    +1

    $300 - $400 Bills

    What does that mean? Are you offering payment plans?

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:29

      It means that this system will take care of bills between $300 $400

  • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2018 - 17:43
    -2

    What are the electricity costs vs supplier payback rates currently?

    Something like 25c p/kw, vs electricity you feed in 11c or so?

    Not worth it as putting $3000 in the bank @ 3% compounding makes more sense to me.

    • Krazyy on 15/09/2018 - 17:57

      Can you please explain the calculations for that? I am genuinely interested.

      • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2018 - 23:57

        With risks of inverter failure after warrantee period. Hail damage, even theft, and roof structural damage. In the ten years'ish to recover your investment, a deposit account @ 3% will have made about $1000.
        You will still have the aged solar income, but I can buy a new solar system having a third deposit doing nothing but banking money for 10 years. And having taken no risk and having the $1k cash available.
        Anyway, it's not a big deal, but the fact of cost plus risk, to make 75% of feedin power profit to a utility company is insulting personally.
        Just saying what I think.

        • bamzero on 16/09/2018 - 04:06

          It shouldn't take 10 years to recover the cost.
          If you are going to feed in all of your generated power, solar might not be a good option. Depending how you use it, you stand to save a lot more.

          As an example, I'm in WA with 6kw on 5kw inverter installed last December. As of today, it has generated/saved just shy of $1000, averaging around 30% consumption rate (Fronius with smart meter, highly recommended so you can actually see what's going on)

          It should be reasonable to expect at $3000 you would recover your cost in under 3 years (and of course power prices are rising every year).

          I can't speak for the reliability of the Goodwe though, I believe they have 5 year warranty, optionally 10, so long as they are still around by then.

    • donkcat on 15/09/2018 - 18:07
      +1

      This system should produce over 22kw a day on average, now lets just say you somehow use zero energy during the day and feed it all back in then 22kw at 11c is $2.42 a day, this returns $882 a year. After 4 years your $3000 compounding interest has returned $3376 and the solar panels have returned $3533.2.

      So in theory unless you plan on moving home within a couple of years then the solar is a better investment than the bank. However there is a bit of risk attached, the FIT of 11c is probably not sustainable if the current rate of solar uptake continues, not at least until we have some storage options to utilize excess energy in the grid. If I recall there are already some days in SA where the wind is blowing strong, the sun is out, they are exporting maximum energy possible through the interconnector to Vic and yet they have excess energy from solar going to waste.

      • zoner on 15/09/2018 - 18:11
        +2

        It's actually 7c in WA

        • donkcat on 15/09/2018 - 18:14
          +1

          Oh ok, in that case it would be 7 years assuming you use zero of the energy yourself before it comes out ahead of the 3% bank interest.

        • zoner on 15/09/2018 - 18:25
          +2

          @donkcat:

          It's a bit of a roundabout way of looking at it though.
          1. If you are a 20kw user and you can defer 15kw to daytime ….you end up paying approx 75cents (usage) a day instead of 4 dollars.
          2. You pump your leftover green (daytime) energy back into the grid which makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
          3. You get a bit frustrated that the power company can charge your neighbors 26 cents for your is input
          4. You have another hobby obsessing about your daily yield.

          *Edited

        • donkcat on 15/09/2018 - 18:35

          @zoner:

          Oh for sure, just wanted to point out to username02 that at absolute worst case how the solar stacks up against money in the bank. It's not that difficult to alter habits and put timers on things to maximise your power usage during times of solar output.

        • zoner on 15/09/2018 - 18:45

          @donkcat:

          Yeah for sure…I realise that cheers

        • ayjay075 on 16/09/2018 - 10:15

          @zoner:

          I need another hobby, so sounds good! :-)

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:32

      You sure? Let's see 3000 in the bank at 3% would be $90. If your solar system would save you only $100 a bill it works out $600 a year instead?

      • rompastompa on 15/09/2018 - 22:19
        +1

        I think you're forgetting that the bank will be $3000 + interest, rather than spending $3k to save $600pa.

        I can't be bothered working out the maths, but solar will be ahead ~ 7yrs?

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:31

          Your money your choice

      • rifter on 15/09/2018 - 22:20
        -1

        So in the bank wins.

        Year 1: Bank $3090, Solar $600
        Year 2: Bank $3180, Solar $1200
        Year 3: Bank $3270, Solar $1800
        etc etc

        Do not forget the solar maintenance costs.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 16/09/2018 - 13:35

          So according to you all the people who are putting solar on their roofs are throwing their money away and should instead leave them in the bank? Forgetting that eventually the system will pay itself off while electricity prices keep going up…

          As far as I know there has not been a Royal Commission on Solar…but just had one on banks?

        • Snoozer on 17/09/2018 - 16:05

          Don't forget to add CPI and rising energy costs.

          So the money in the bank will be worth approx 2% less every year.

          According to this link (https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Depart…) energy prices have risen by 80% between 2003 and 2013, so the amount you'll save on your energy bills will continue to increase as the years pass.

  • alvian on 15/09/2018 - 18:01

    Where is the saving? How is this a deal and not an advertisement? Where is the product web page? How do we order?

  • Canberran on 15/09/2018 - 18:01
    +9

    Be careful, seems like a new company can't have 30 years experience and sounds like one of those EuroSolar/Sunboost phoenix companies (check whirlpool).

    When a deal is too good to be true it often is…

    • zoner on 15/09/2018 - 18:10

      These prices are pretty standard for WA. But yeah….being involved over 30 years in solar sounds indeed a bit…. optimistic

      • donkcat on 15/09/2018 - 18:18
        +1

        Does the WA government offer additional subsidies because these prices are pretty cheap, this is inferior gear in this deal but it's priced at 46c a watt, in Victoria with a reputable supplier, decent panel and Fronius inverter you can expect to pay $1-$1.10 a watt (not including the latest vic rebate)

        • zoner on 15/09/2018 - 18:26

          Not that I am aware off….just the standard STC

      • justtoreply on 15/09/2018 - 19:23

        IIRC their 30 years started in South Africa, not WA

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:59
          +2

          We started in Kenya actually…not South Africa. Specifically with the UNHCR vaccine fridges program to eradicate Polio by 1990

      • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 21:01

        I understand your skepticism…we get it all the time. Moreover still in business since inception in Australia in 2003. That is even harder to believe these days

    • Slo20 on 15/09/2018 - 19:52

      The ABN goes back 15 years. Although the ACN they list on their website doesn’t exist.

      • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 21:04

        Because the ACN is for The Energy Trust

        • DonWilson on 15/09/2018 - 21:54

          So why does your website say:

          E-Solar means E-Solar Pty Ltd ACN 103 650 399

          and when I look up that ACN it's not found?

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:11

          @DonWilson: We are one and the same. But now that you have pointed it out (thank you) I will check the discrepancy. Just so glad at least the ABN is correct….

        • DonWilson on 15/09/2018 - 22:13

          @e-Solar: Then not only is the business name listed wrong then the ACN listed is wrong. I didn't search for a corresponding name and number, I just searched the number and the number doesn't exist.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:16
          -3

          @DonWilson: So now we don't exist…is that your point? If you check https://www.solarquotes.com.au/installer-review/esolar/

          You will see we have been in business for a while.

          Anyway come to our offices in Perth we are on front street 22 Canham Way Greenwood 6024

        • DonWilson on 15/09/2018 - 22:20

          @e-Solar: No, I'm saying the ACN you list doesn't exist. It's not hard to follow, I linked the Australian Government website that shows this is true.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:21

          @DonWilson: Where did you say you got our ACN? Please send the link

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:26

          @DonWilson: Will confirm what you are stating with the office on Monday…again come and visit us and satisfy yourself we are a genuine company. Like someone else said for that kind of investment you need to make sure we are what we claim we are

        • DonWilson on 15/09/2018 - 22:30

          @e-Solar: The ACN doesn't exist. It's not listed on the relevant govenment website. It's not up for debate.

          The question is why your website lists it.

          There is also no "E-Solar Pty Ltd": https://abr.business.gov.au/Search/ResultsActive?SearchText=…

          This is probably what you're meant to be listing. ABN 48 798 720 381.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:32

          @DonWilson: Thanks for pointing out. Appreciated. Will have it changed next week.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 17/09/2018 - 17:38

          @DonWilson:The full legal name is
          E-Solar Pty Ltd ACN 103 650 399 as trustee for the Energy Trust ABN 48 798 720 381

          ASIC (asic.gov.au) search “E-Solar” using the organisations & Business Names

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 17/09/2018 - 19:01

          @DonWilson: The ABR is used to lookup ABN’s of any entity carrying on a business and for an ABR search you must lookup the correct trading entity name or ABN and not use an ACN in the ABR. What you have done with your posts is exactly how the very companies you pretend to watch out for confuse clients. You are a competitor no doubt! So cheap..

      • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 20/09/2018 - 08:34

        The full legal name is
        E-Solar Pty Ltd ACN 103 650 399 as trustee for the Energy Trust ABN 48 798 720 381

        ASIC (asic.gov.au) search “E-Solar” using the organisations & Business Names

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:34

      Well all you have to do is check! Maybe also our reviews on solarquotes and Google? See how new we are

      • Canberran on 15/09/2018 - 22:21

        Except unfortunately reviews are very easily faked nowadays. I found out this the hard way when I got super excited for a SunBoost deal, checked out their reviews which were mostly positive. However, ALL positive reviewers have only reviewed one company, which is extremely suspect.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 22:22

          Yes lots of them out there. It's a problem in the industry….but then you can always come and visit…

  • leighzac on 15/09/2018 - 18:12
    +1

    So Goodwe battery ready Inverter huh? I guess the Goodwe must be a Hybrid then because other than a Hybrid, its not battery ready without adding extra electronics!
    A true hybrid inverter at this cost is too good to be true!

    Still, barry basic system under 3k with warranty, might be a good deal for some.

  • RedFoxAU on 15/09/2018 - 19:47

    what is your or your installers EC licence number?

    my concern would be its such a low price that the quality of the install will be rushed and/or cheaply done such as external conduit.

    the hardware is “low-end” and not a fan of middleman sales companies personally

    my advice is speak/meet onsite with your local electrical contractor that does solar and look at quality hardware such as solaredge or fronius inverters and lg/qcell/winaco/rec panels.
    Heaps of panel reviews out there just do your research

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 15/09/2018 - 20:35

      Free to take the action you like. I guess reviews about a company say a lot more! LG,,Winaico? Double the price…now is that really worth it?
      QCells don't compare to JA or Trina Solar these days….check the stats

      • RedFoxAU on 16/09/2018 - 09:02

        I believe its worth it, if they last longer and stay away from landfill.

        back to the question what is your or your installers EC number?
        After all they will be installing it for low payment - be nice to know who they are, that they are electrical contractors and can research their quality of work.
        You would have to admit there are installers out there that do an average job.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 16/09/2018 - 13:27

          West State Electrics one of them. However I think the best judges of the work our installers do are our clients with their reviews. Again more important which seems to be ignored, we have been running since 2003. How many solar companies can claim that? Finally from the questions you ask you are obviously a competitor trying your best to discredit this offer. It's unfortunate you have to get personal and so negative on the brands suggested which are very good value for money. Not everyone can afford $8000 or more for LG panels and Fronius inverter.

        • RedFoxAU on 16/09/2018 - 13:47

          not a competitor mate just a customer who spent a lot of time researching prior to purchasing with some good electrical knowledge.

          Scarey some of the sales companies and installers out there when I was looking.
          If there isnt much money going to the installer you cant expect quality- just smash it in as quickly as possible.

          not personal at all just sharing my experience/knowledge/research.

          I’d buy a toyota not a great wall but each to their own.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 16/09/2018 - 13:59
          +1

          @RedFoxAU: That is not how we operate and our installers take their time to do a proper job. We still service clients we installed systems years ago and they are so pleased to find out we are still in business when they call our number. Anyway as said before please come and visit to assess personally what company we are. And yes our margins are small no doubt ..

        • bamzero on 16/09/2018 - 21:35

          @e-Solar:

          I think it's fair to ask. After all, you know what the industry is like and with the likes of Euro/Arise or whatever they'll be called tomorrow and their rock bottom priced deals you usually get what you pay for.

        • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 16/09/2018 - 23:13

          @bamzero: I appreciate the concern and yes the industry reputation has been trashed by some companies. Still they usually offer 20 x 275 W panels plus 4 extra for free and free WiFi….We don't claim to offer anything for free. Never used such cheap tactics. But panels prices are coming down and we are only passing the lower prices to the clients without compromising installation quality.

  • cornucopia on 16/09/2018 - 07:10
    +2

    +1 to OP for resilience, persistence and conviction .. :-) . !!

  • Snoozer on 17/09/2018 - 17:07

    How much if I have a 3 phase meter?

  • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 17/09/2018 - 18:01

    $3500

  • XedeX on 18/09/2018 - 03:04

    How much extra for Jinko or canadian solar panels ?

  • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 18/09/2018 - 07:54

    We would offer Trina 330 Watts. By the way JA Solar is the World 4th manufacturer at the same level as all others

  • fungyou100 on 06/10/2018 - 21:11

    EXPIRED? do you install in SA?

    • Associatede-Solar @ e-Solar on 07/10/2018 - 00:20

      Unfortunately WA only..

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