RDR2 - Do I Need It?

ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 11:25

Hey all,

Just wanted to gauge the views and honest feedback of the fellow Aussie.

I'm a fan of open world games, there is no denying that. Having played Horizon: Zero Dawn, God of War and most recently Assassins Creed: Odyssey I tend to delve into these sandbox worlds sometimes more than I should. I picked up AC Odyssey on release day and for those who have beaten it I've just passed Perikles weird night party (Information gathering quest) and am Level 18 or 19 I think.

Needless to say I'm really enjoying my time here. I complete nearly every side mission and quest I come across as well. With Pokemon only weeks away (I plan on investing time in that too) and an interstate holiday planned for December, should I even bother with getting RDR2?

I don't see myself completing AC Odyssey before the end of 2018.

How do you guys buy games? Do you complete one first then move on? Or do you buy games on Day One for the cheaper price and get to them eventually?

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Comments

  • HighAndDry on 30/10/2018 - 11:32
    +9

    RDR2 - Do I Need It?

    It's a video game, so no.

    How do you guys buy games? Do you complete one first then move on? Or do you buy games on Day One for the cheaper price and get to them eventually?

    I buy once I finish whatever I'm playing or there's a crazy Steam sale for something on my wishlist for like $5. Then it's an impulse pick up. I'm pretty sure you can buy games for cheaper a few months after release than on Day One. And by then all the bugs and glitches will have been worked out too so you're not acting as a free beta tester.

    *caveat - this is when I still gamed. Haven't bought a game in quite a few years now.

    • Bid Sniper on 01/11/2018 - 11:58

      This.

      I just put everything i want on steam wishlist and wait for sales or humble bundles.

      I have over 200 quality games. Recently there was an option discovered to see how much you acutally spent. I cringed but had to know. It was only $700 for 200 games.

      So to pay full RRP for a game is pretty silly considering how much and how quickly they drop

  • dasher86 on 30/10/2018 - 11:33
    +3

    If you're planning to play online get it…
    If not wait until you have finished the other ones. price will go down, if ever so slightly… (GTA V is still expensive!).

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 11:41

      I can remember buying RDR when it came with the Undead Nightmare on PS3 for no more than $50 and didn't mind the game.

    • FrankMcFuzz on 01/11/2018 - 10:29
      +2

      This post is insane.

      First of all, the online mode isn't even out yet; and when it gets enabled I surely won't be going back to it. Don't get RDR2 for the online.

      Secondly, the story alone is over 65 hours long, the writing is amazing and the characters are all incredible; even if you don't go off the beaten path and do Stranger missions and hunting, etc, the game is extremely packed full of content.

      I am really enjoying it. It's a return to good videogames where you get everything in the actual game without needing to pay life and limb to progress (COUGHASSASSIN'SCOUGHCREEDCOUGHODYSSEYCOUGHCOUGH) and it doesn't feel like it's wasting your time. The depth of everything, physics and riding are all really impressive from a technical standpoint. I had huge frustrations at the beginning of the game but once I settled into it, it's one of the best games I've played for a long time.

      The shooting is pretty garbage though.

      • dasher86 on 01/11/2018 - 10:35

        Multi player beta will launch ~november 9.
        I find to get myself invested into multiplayer you need to get in from the start (yes you can join later, but I find the experience of bugs and discovery of new things great - each to their own).
        You will need a feel for the game before going online, hence why get it now for online.
        If not 65 hours of game play will always be there. You don't need to get it asap.

      • ThePriceMatchGuy on 01/11/2018 - 10:51

        Not even including the Season Pass for AC: Odyssey (which contains 2 massive story additions and 2 remastered games mind you) I've sunk about 25 game hours into it and talking to friends that have completed it (skipped side missions) I've literally just scraped the surface.. maybe 30% through it.

        The side quests and liberating forts, bases etc. is the most fun I've had ever in side missions!

  • Ravensbane on 30/10/2018 - 11:37
    +1

    No of course you dont need it. However if you like games then you should want it, it's pretty bloody amazing.

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 11:42

      I does like games :P

      I'm just concerned that this game will sit on the back-burner for a really long time :(

      I don't plan on playing another single player game til I complete Odyssey (there's season pass content out soon!)

      • Ravensbane on 30/10/2018 - 12:28

        I was fortunate to finish Odyssey before RDR2 came out. But even if I hadnt I would have put it down for Red Dead.

      • Flanders on 01/11/2018 - 11:40

        I don't plan on playing another single player game til I complete Odyssey (there's season pass content out soon!)

        Since you mentioned you don't think you willbe finished AC in 2018, then I would wait till boxing day sales and check who selling cheap after xmas as unwanted gift
        That said, depends what money you have and whether you like just to have it, even if not playing it.
        I used to always have no or very little money, due to gambling addiction in the most part. Ps3 and my games was always in pawn shop. Now I am not really gaming much at all, but I loved red dead 1, so maybe this will help me regain my passion for gaming. Anyways, now I like have top of line consoles early into realease, and also have latest 'best games' out that everyone is raving about. It feels good to 'have it' but rarely use. I still make sure I get a great deal though, which js kind of a cheat I think many of us here on ozbargain use as an excuse to buy random crap we don't need .
        You surely do not need RDR2. But think about whater you want it, then consider what spare money you have etc. Its your money, maybe you get a good feeling buying/having 'stuff' . And sounds like eventually you will play it alot.
        Regarding the 'deals' on day 1 or early in release, I think you will be able to find similar or better deals later on, just they might not make front page here, compared to when 1st released it seems every RDR2 deal makes front page. The deals will still be around later, just might have to hunt the bargains down yourself, of use search of ozbargain (for deals on game you want that didnt make front pages).

  • mubd1234 on 30/10/2018 - 11:44

    I was obsessed with the original RDR as a 16 year old, but despite my desire to play RDR2, I really can't justify spending $500 on a console + the game. Might consider it for the next GTA, though…

    • serpserpserp on 31/10/2018 - 22:22
      +1

      I enjoyed RDR more than GTA. Although, GTA is funnier for the cruising around while music is playing…

  • trustnoone on 30/10/2018 - 11:46
    +1

    I personally buy games first, don't play a whole lot of them because I don't have enough time with work, and instead of going back to play the awesome games that I bought at preorder price (Horizon zero dawn, God of war, assassin creed, and many more) I just buy more games! haha I hate myself sometimes.

    I don't know much about pricing but I imagine RDR2 will keep its price quite well compared to the pre order price (69ish dollars), but with Christmas sales coming up, I'd imagine they'd be a good deal or two and since it doesn't look like you're going to be playing it for a while its probably worth waiting if it doesn't sell out.

  • djkelly69 on 30/10/2018 - 11:57
    +20

    Buy the R2D2 you should.

    • Tnetennba on 31/10/2018 - 21:09
      +6

      Took me way too long to realise OP didn't say R2D2..

      • idonotknowwhy on 01/11/2018 - 09:02

        I didn't realize until I read your comment lol. Was wondering why all the upvotes…

  • tsunamisurfer on 30/10/2018 - 12:11

    The word 'need' certainly has changed in meaning hasn't it.

    • idonotknowwhy on 01/11/2018 - 09:00

      Not really. He's asking if he needs it. The answer is "no", but the question is still valid when using the dictionary definition of "need".

  • altitudinous on 30/10/2018 - 12:33
    +2

    No.

    But Rockstar games are so good that everything else pales into insignificance. I will probably cut down my games time by not buying anything but Rockstar games and just get in depth to them and finish them over a long period of time.

    Games otherwise are pretty much a waste of time.

    • HighAndDry on 30/10/2018 - 12:56

      Rockstar vs CD Projekt Red vs Bethesda, who you got? (It's so sad I can't put Bioware up there anymore. ME2 was a masterpiece.)

      • ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 13:04

        Hey, I think that Anthem could be right on melody for changing peoples' perceptions on them telling an immersive single player experience.

        • HighAndDry on 30/10/2018 - 13:09

          If they can make an immersive and engaging plot line for an MMORPG in Anthem, then yes, that'd go a long way to recovering their reputation. But I don't know - I feel like the online gaming scene may have kind of passed by and Anthem could've just missed the boat, because it's now all about Battle Royales.

  • rover on 30/10/2018 - 12:33
    +6

    "How do you guys buy games?"

    Wait for it to get in a $1 Humble Bundle tier

    • Jabberwocky on 01/11/2018 - 07:47

      I loved contra & Mario when I was my child’s age…
      Try the new game called Sonic as well if you can ..they are in $1 humble bundle now…
      And you will be amazed to see a cordless video game console with the capability to play blurays (they are like vhs tapes) in 20 years time, & the whole thing would be available for $25 or less

  • Quantumcat on 30/10/2018 - 12:54
    +3

    If you're not planning to play it right away then don't buy it now. It will go down in price. Don't buy it until you intend to play it.

    E.g. Why would you buy a brand new just manufactured car when you're planning to leave it in your garage for a year, when you could buy it as a runout model next year for cheaper?

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 13:05

      I mean comparing a video game to a car is good in principle but no really an accurate comparison in regards to buying risk. I have the disposable income to buy the game without hesitations, whereas a car, may need some consultations with the partner, haha

      • Quantumcat on 30/10/2018 - 13:22
        +2

        Whether $10 or $10,000 it is still silly to throw away money for nothing

        • HighAndDry on 30/10/2018 - 14:57
          +1

          But it affects the risk/reward of the decision, especially as 'convenience' is in the reward side of that equation.

          E.g.: Pay $10,000 for a car you have a 5% chance of using - not worth it, because the convenience of having it there on that 5% off chance is not worth $10,000.

          But paying $10 for a game you might have a 5% chance of playing - the convenience of having it there just in case you want to play it may well be worth the $10.

          • Quantumcat on 30/10/2018 - 16:34
            +1

            @HighAndDry: Except that he knows he isn't going to play it. So guaranteed lost money. I think $10-$40 is worth the saving to have to travel to the shops when you want to buy it (assuming you don't live in a rural area where it is a long distance to travel and you don't go there often).

            But I guess everyone has a different value on that - it might be harder for some to get to the shops and others may value their time more highly. I think it is safe to say most people wouldn't pay $20 or whatever for the convenience of not having to go to the shops at a future time..

            • HighAndDry on 30/10/2018 - 16:49
              +1

              @Quantumcat:

              I think $10-$40 is worth the saving

              Oh don't get me wrong - I agree with this completely.

          • FimpBARGAIN on 31/10/2018 - 12:21
            +1

            @HighAndDry: These days the convenience isnt there.
            He cant just pop a disc in next year and expect to be playing in 5minutes, there would be at least half a day of waiting on the updates to download :(

  • garffi on 30/10/2018 - 13:17
    +1

    Yes but wait till you finish your games or when the price comes down. Just don't end up like me with a backlog of games :/

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 30/10/2018 - 13:21

      Despite having finished those games I mentioned above in my post I still have Uncharted 1-4 still sealed in plastic on my shelf.. Talk about a backlog to get through!

      • garffi on 30/10/2018 - 13:24

        Uncharted 4 was the first game I ever played in the series and it was awesome! You definitely should start that soon :)

  • jv on 30/10/2018 - 13:23
    +1

    R2D2 - Do I Need It?

    C-3PO does…

  • Pootie Tang on 30/10/2018 - 13:56
    +1

    I purchased it with the $49. I still have my copy of Red Dead 1 that I have not opened from my xbox 360 days. The fact this is a prequel worked out really well for me.

    • original15 on 30/10/2018 - 18:04

      Man, i picked up rdr1 about 2 months ago and am about halfway thru lol but just bought rdr2 and am torn about what to do. Yes a prequel but it doesnt feel right and bet if I try go back to rdr1 it will look awful by comparison
      Haven’t even opened rdr2 yet

      • Mlapa on 01/11/2018 - 01:57
        +1

        I was in the same position, but i powered through and finished 1 before starting 2. Trust me it's worth it. You'll appreciate the characters, their stories and their arcs a lot more.

        • original15 on 01/11/2018 - 07:43

          How much of rdr1 did you have left? I’m about 10 missions in to Mexico
          I started installing rdr2 this morning..
          Maybe I’ll knock r1 off but just do the core missions and speed play, not focus on side missions or anything extra

  • Godric on 30/10/2018 - 14:46
    -5

    Not until its on PC you don't need it,
    Let the Console players play through the BETA until the Superior Version of RDR is released.

    • Ninternet on 30/10/2018 - 15:46

      If this is satire, you've nailed it.

    • kazuyamishima on 02/11/2018 - 10:44
      -2

      Well yeah, specially since PC gaming is REALLY Cheap…..

  • qwerty on 30/10/2018 - 15:13

    If you dont have the cash get RDR1 or Gun if you havent played before

  • RocketSwitch on 30/10/2018 - 16:13

    Yes, you need it.

    Best game ever.

  • Mattmattmatt on 31/10/2018 - 09:33

    I reckon stick with AC etc, buy RDR2 second hand in a couple of months.
    I intended to wait until I'd finished Witcher 3 and Horizon but a bunch of my mates went mad with Red Dead hype and I crumbled. Its good but hasn't yet blown me away like God of War did.

  • FimpBARGAIN on 31/10/2018 - 12:31
    +1

    I know it sounds weird but for the past 5yrs or so I tend to wait (sometimes years) until there is a cheap copy of a definitive edition floating around.

    One of the last games I bought on day1 was the Division, and that game wasnt even in a "finished" state until much MUCH later. Unfortunately by that time I had gotten over it and sold my disc copy, shame as its meant to be great now.
    Another one I bought day1 was For Honor, which was a good concept by no dedicated servers made it shite. Sold it on and took a bit of a loss, later they updated and fixed the server issues. oh well, too late for me.

    Currently I'm playing MGSV which is years old by now, doesnt worry me personally not to keep up with the latest and greatest + now all the bugs are fixed :)

    Ive noticed over the past decade reviews have all gone to shit, cant trust any of them so you only really know if a game is as good as the reviews 12months+ after release 🤬

  • omgitzrick on 31/10/2018 - 12:33

    RDR2 is probably my favourite game so far this year, but if you don't have time to play then what's the point?

  • raptormesh on 31/10/2018 - 19:48
    -2

    I returned mine after three days. The constant glitchy missions pissed me off and was fighting the controls constantly.

    Very atmospheric cowboy/western game though if you're into that.

  • prinsenhof on 31/10/2018 - 20:00

    I'm trying to like it. The action is just slow so far. Walking is super slow, picking things up is super slow, always travelling around to find the next mission. I'm only 20% through the story though, so hopefully it gets better or i learn to like it.

    Accidentally pressing R2 and shooting people in the face when trying to talk to them has been amusing though. Done it at least twice already.

  • Ahbal on 31/10/2018 - 20:08

    Wait until you have enough time to dedicate to play it to its full (like Witcher 3).

    Its not a game you can play for half an hour or an hour then just stop. IMO of course.

  • DiscoJango on 31/10/2018 - 21:26
    -1

    i can only read the title as R2D2 sorry

    beeb boop

  • bad hombre on 31/10/2018 - 21:36

    I'm trying to play RDR2 and GoW … installed both but played neither.

  • potm on 31/10/2018 - 22:06

    Anyone else read the title as R2D2?
    I was picturing some robot toy.

  • nomoneynoproblems on 31/10/2018 - 22:26

    It's overrated. I was half way through god of war when it came out and bought it via Amazon. Played a bit and went back to god of war. (Now that is an amazing game)

  • SpaceNinja on 01/11/2018 - 06:24

    Can I ask a stupid question?
    Are Assassins Creed: Odyssey and RDR2 like Skyrim where I can completely ignore the missions and quests and go wherever the fk I want without game complaining "you need to go back to mission" or "time is up" or "stay within boundaries" etc? Thanks

    • IceCreamBandit on 01/11/2018 - 07:13
      +1

      RDR2 like Skyrim where I can completely ignore the missions and quests and go wherever the fk I want without game complaining "you need to go back to mission" or "time is up" or "stay within boundaries" etc? Thanks

      You have to play through the intro missions but once you finish them it seems you can explore the whole world as you wish. No areas are closed off like older GTA games but you just won't see roads etc on the map until you explore it.

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 01/11/2018 - 09:25
      +1

      With the amount of side quests and things to do outside of the main story in AC: Odyssey I've found myself literally wandering around for 3 hours picking up NPC quests, checking out locations and literally absorbing the scenery..

  • imurgod on 01/11/2018 - 07:11

    Just get it, you won't regret it. It's nothing short of amazing.

  • Wiede on 01/11/2018 - 08:23

    Going from Assassins Creed: Odyssey to RDR2 is like going from driving a formula one to hiking in the mountain. It slammed the break hard in terms of pacing and can be very slow especially after you play AC:O. You really need to sit down and spend the proper amount of time to enjoy RDR2. Both game are amazing but they are really different style of games

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 01/11/2018 - 09:37

      Damn, well that really puts it into great perspective I guess. I'm really loving the pacing and freedom to explore in AC:O. I feel like I'll be playing it for still some time to come.. (I complete any and all side quests before moving onto places and I liberate all forts and bases). The beginning of the DLC is only next month now and with Pokemon out in pretty much 2 weeks I feel like RDR2 wouldn't get the time it does deserve..

  • h4zey on 01/11/2018 - 09:48

    Am I the only here who is wondering what RDR2 is?

    • ThePriceMatchGuy on 01/11/2018 - 10:16
      +4

      In a gaming forum, where the name has been referenced 4 times I'd definitely say so..

  • MrMoo on 01/11/2018 - 11:47
    +2

    I love Rockstars GTA Series but RDR never sat right with me. I don't like wild west settings and riding a horse didn't feel as fast paced as driving a car. Having said that I really enjoyed RDR1 because of the great characters and decent story.

    I bought RDR2 last week and I think playing too much Black ops 4 has spoiled me. The game feels really slow, the first 2 missions took almost an hour. One mission took about 15-20 minutes and it was just me riding in snow, O and I got to shoot 2 wolves…

    I've been watching a couple of streamers play the game and I noticed the travel time really blows. You are looking at riding a horse for (sometimes) 10 minutes just to get to a location to do a story mission. The problem here is when you are really interested in the story and want to get through it you don't want to spent 10 minutes every mission riding a horse to get to each mission marker. This does not include maybe another 5-10 minutes of riding the horse in the mission itself to get to another location.

    It isn't just me either, a couple of people have mentioned it on youtube too. Rockstar definitely did this on purpose to make you enjoy the world / natural splendor. I can respect that, they've put a lot of work into it. For my personally I guess my problem is because I am very time poor these days I don't think I have the time to spend 30-40 minutes every night riding a horse only to get up the next morning for kids / work / gym / ride horse for 40 minutes. Rinse repeat.

    • max2million on 01/11/2018 - 13:08
      +1

      I wish these big games had a setting you could turn on for adult gamers with no time to enjoy the whole thing. A setting that cuts travel time and whatnot, just lets you get straight to the super fun stuff. Like licking the icing off a cake and not eating the cake - I'm an adult and I just want the best bit!

      • MrMoo on 01/11/2018 - 13:11

        Lol right? I mean there are times where I only get maybe 1-2 hours to myself. If I have to choose 3 missions of RDR2 vs 10 rounds of black ops 4. Well we know what I am going to choose lol.

        GTA V had taxis which would quick travel you. I used it for my second play through. RDR has something similar I think but it doesn't unlock until much later in the game and unlike taxis it won't take you directly to your marker.

        • ThePriceMatchGuy on 01/11/2018 - 13:46

          Can you not set your horse to automatically ride to the locations of your missions?

          In AC: O you can make your horse ride automatically ride to certain marked locations and the horse will stop outside of the area of danger, but right at your marked location. Does a similar feature exist in RDR2?

          • FrankMcFuzz on 01/11/2018 - 14:01

            @ThePriceMatchGuy: Yes and No. You can put it in "Cinematic mode", and your horse will automatically follow the roads towards your custom marker. But you gotta keep pressing X.

            But, you know, RDR2 isn't so boring you need a feature like that (Take that ACO2 (I call it ACO2 because AC: Origins was already ACO, making AC:Odyssey = ACO2)

            …But if you really want the feature you can put the controller on the ground and put your toe on X.

            • MrMoo on 01/11/2018 - 14:56

              @FrankMcFuzz: @thepricematchguy

              That sounds like a nice feature. I wish RDR has something like that. Like @FrankMcFuzz said you need to keep pressing or holding X to maintain speed. You cannot go off to do something or else your horse just stops / slows to a trod.

              However on the plus side, like GTA fashion, there is a bit of banter between the main character and whoever he is doing a mission with. So you do get some story out of it. But I would say in a 5 hour play session 30-45 minutes of it is pressing the X button and hearing banter lol.

  • MementoMori on 01/11/2018 - 12:15
    +1

    I end up buying games and barely playing them. Only buy AAA games with 85+ metacritic reviews, but that's still a lot.

    Only 1 in 10 of these games actually 'hook me', where I'll put in at least 10 enjoyable hours into it. If I'm buying at say $59 that's ~$6 an hour of fun.

    I really should trade games or at least play my old ones first, but it's hard not to get caught up in the hype. I mean look at RDR2, IGN gave it a 10, Metacritic 96 I think? (highest this year?).

    I have reached Stage 1 of my path to recovery, I at least wait until the first price drop before buying these days. Usually takes 3 months or so.

    • max2million on 01/11/2018 - 13:06
      +1

      I hear you, friend! Younger me was always so excited by new games, but I couldn't afford to buy them. Now I can easily afford to buy whatever games I want but I have no time to play them.

    • FrankMcFuzz on 01/11/2018 - 13:58

      AAA games with 85+ metacritic reviews are quite often the games least worthy of a play.

      …I mean, RDR2 is great, and definitely worthy of the score, but you know, I'm speaking historically here.

  • Cave Fire on 01/11/2018 - 14:03

    Wow… I missed all the information about this game, it was an unconfirmed rumour with a few screenshots when I was looking at it. Fast forward two years and there's articles talking about the launch. If you are into open world, this should be one of the best examples out now.

    • FrankMcFuzz on 01/11/2018 - 14:06

      It pretty much is. It's the first game I've ever seen where a low hanging branch on a tree can actually knock you off a horse (has only happened to me once, but I was pretty impressed when it happened ;D)

  • playswithfire on 01/11/2018 - 17:05

    Grab it in the Christmas sales and get stuck in after you finish Odyssey. I see no point in rushing through Odyssey when it's such a beautiful looking game and fun to play (then again I don't get much time to game).

  • rompastompa on 01/11/2018 - 19:53

    Recommendations for RDR2 players:

    Regularly do manual saves. I somehow killed/lost my warhorse, and couldn't get it back.
    Buy a lock breaker ($25) from a Fence.

  • ThePriceMatchGuy on 06/11/2018 - 13:09

    So I heard Red Dead Redemption 2 Online allows you to explore the same open world with no limitations but with friends?

    I never played RDR Online in the first game, but is this essentially what it is?

  • petrosi on 11/11/2018 - 04:00

    There's a portrait of the strange man from RDR1 behind Herbert Moon in the general store in Armadillo. If you're playing the epilogue, John recognizes him.

  • Freezies on 20/11/2018 - 13:30

    I have a huge backlog of games to play. I very rarely buy games when they come out. Just wait until the sales.

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