Yet Another Gaming/ Productivity Rig Discussion

Being all the crazy sales period, I got myself one of the below when it was 15% off.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ryzen-7-2700-RTX-2080-8GB-480GB-…

TL;DR

The above build; need advice/ recommendations on:
1. Mobo
2. RAM
3. Fan
4. Other possible upgrades

— long chatter post version :-)

Last PC build was back in 2011 on a dual bridged 280 GTX, since been on mostly laptops and iPad for convenience. Currently on a Lenovo T440s with 12gb ram, using mainly for productivity and the occasional AutoCAD.

Am recently booked on FO4 (PS4) so decided to venture onto FO76. Installed the game on the laptop and the lag was significant; stuck on the player face customisation part, mouse was moving at stuttering lagging pace.

Thought it was the internet speed (am on Optus Cable running at 25mbps consistently with very poor upload speeds) so moved over to VF HFC in hope of starting the game. The slight bump on VF HFC didn't do much, even when the display setting is set at low graphics level.

Now back to the main topic. Need advice and recommendations on improving the above specs. Desired outcome is a PC with reasonable future proof years (3-4 yrs); mainly to be used on occasional gaming, AutoCAD use, photo editing and then some video editing/ rendering.

Purchased without any research but comfortable seeing the chatter here on the graphics card and getting the highest Ryzen specs the seller had.

Possible pathways to the upgrades:

A. I can have the vendor assemble the rig and I slowly upgrade my way in the next few months, OR
B. Have all the parts come in and I assemble on my own.

Option A (imo) is great if I'm worried the parts are DOA. Other than that, I don't see myself sending the assembled PC back to S.A for repairs as the freight cost is likely to be un-economical. The other point is if I decides to upgrade parts like the mobo on a later stage, I have to spend more time fiddling around with firmwares and drivers on the HDD and getting it to work with the new mobo and the drivers that it comes with (or otherwise reinstalling everything from ground again). Also not sure about the thermal paste and if I need to scrape the old one or how to essentially transfer the chip to the new mobo without mishaps.

Option B sounds like a more feasible path (imo) though I'm no computer technician. Am struggling with understanding which part goes with what. Example if I were to get a Noctua AM4 fan, without seeing the actual case I wouldn't be sure if it would fit. Or if I am getting the correct mobo to support the 2000 series Ryzen chip with the correct/ suitable RAM that could squeeze some more benefits for the money that's already put in. Obviously there is also the time pressure to purchase (after knowing what I need to purchase; being the correct parts) when RAM prices are high or when purchase decision is driven by need and not want would mean I will be paying a premium.

Things I am considering upgrading:

  1. Read that the A320 mobo does not support OC and it's a basic entry mobo. Am thinking of X470; probably ASUS Prime. I don't run VMs But the price difference between mid X370 and entry X470 doesn't differ much and I don't have to worry about gen 1 mobo compatibility to the 2000s Ryzen.

  2. RAM - Incline to get 32gb dual (2x16).

  3. HDD - I think the system came with 480 SSD but I purchased a SS Evo 860 1TB to replace anyways. Space is mainly for program installations and temp file storage as I Have NAS and its mirrored on the cloud as backup.

  4. Fan - looking at this (https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAADY5BC1607&Description=Noctua%20NH-D15&cm_re=Noctua_NH-D15--9SIAADY5BC1607--Product) but not sure if the case will fit. Oh well. Also what type of thermal paste should I be looking at?

What are your advice, thoughts and recommendations on the above? I probably missed out on a few crucial parts but am guessing the above is a good starting point.

Comments

  • +1

    Hey buddy!

    As many others have stated in other TechFast posts, the items are bare bones to achieve said price, that being said its a great deal.

    I'd upgrade the Ram to 16gb and change the power supply to a better rated one. 750W is fine but you have a beastly and expensive graphics card in there which you certainly don't want being run by an El Cheapo power supply.

    The alternative to all that is to see exactly what brands come when they ship it to you as they state "Occasionally: Crucial, other TechFast-approved brands" in the brand mentioned on the components. Then that way you can upgrade those few components if they are rubbish and sell the ones that are garbo.

    • +1

      Waste of money upgrading PSU other than overclocking reasons.

      • +2

        Not true, if you used a low quality power supply, if you get a surge more than likely the protections in psu are terrible, so it will take out alot of peripherals as well as the power supply in such an event, however a very good quality supply might protect them instead.

        I had a seasonic x-750 blow, everything else was fine, i had a 550 antec blow, and everything died. That extra money goes a long way in power supplies especially in that kind of situation.

    • I guess the first question really is if I should have it assembled or I should assemble it on my own.

      The Newegg $30 discount doesn't help at coming to a logical decision point but it is what it is. Since the $30 discount is one per customer, perhaps I should just get the mobo first and everything else can wait?

      • +1

        If you're swapping out the mobo (absolutely reasonable), swap out tje PSU while your at it.

        If that's a Techfast item warranty (the 1 year warranty, not manufacturer) would be void once the mobo's gone, and I wouldn't advise running a non name brand psu without warranty (especially if you're planning on overclocking…which I'd advise for an r7 and 2080

        • ok … the Techfast warranty is sorta an unicorn. If there's an issue, the cost to send the tower back to them (I assume they would be the one to diagnose which part is faulty) and paying for the return to me would equate to $100+.

          Would it be economical to even consider utilising their 1 year warranty?

          Either I stick with their build for a year, wait for another BF cycle and then do the upgrade of the desired parts, OR I have them send all the parts on its own, and assemble them myself with the new upgraded parts. Techfast mentioned that the latter would mean I have to seek out the manufacturer directly for any warranty issue.

          If I stick with their build, most likely I would have to purchase another 8gb (exact specs to theirs) or 2x8gb pair for the time being. Dont think a single 8gb would go a long way.

          What would you have done? Other ways to approach?

          • @LurvinOZB: Ah, order disassembled. If you end up buying absolutely do that. Means you're more or less just in it for a nice deal on the parts.

            Big question here is, what are you actually intending on using? And will you have a genuine use for the parts you aren't intending on using?

            Assuming you stick with the RAM, CPU, GPU

            Disregard, absolutely go with a disassembled order IMO. Just realised ebay had a 10% off. Make sure to reuse the GPU, SSD, CPU and RAM, plus use the monitor as a main/second and that's phenomenal value. Hold extra parts (mobo for example) for a smaller build for family, or as backup (or just resell :P).

  • Regarding overclocking, don't waste your time and money, especially if you're not familiar with assembling your own PC's and have never OC'd before. Not being disparaging, but it's a bit of a learning curve, with lots of trial and error, you'll have to put up with an unreliable computer (poor overclocks result in crashes), generate more heat, so you should use better cooling parts, adding additional costs and all for the privilege of an improvement with almost no appreciable difference.

    To put it bluntly, it's just not worth the money to begin with. Actually doing an overclock, you have a whole lot of potential reliability issues. If you do productivity, wouldn't be that great for you to get sudden crashes and blue screens out of nowhere.

    • OC was not my intention but duly noted. I'm chasing more of a reliable setup with better quality parts since the initial outlay was close to $2K.

      Just gotten the ASUS X470 Prime Pro minutes before the eBay 10% finished yesterday, I guess I am taking the self-assembly path.

      Mobo CHECKED
      SSD CHECKED

      Next …
      - RAM
      - PSU
      - FAN Cooler

      Am hoping the case wont disappoint as the Noctua fan seems bigger than life on the web listing.

      • What was the size? 120mm?

        • +1

          The one from the recent Newegg post that's suitable for AM4. I checked MSY and theirs are showing a generic Noctua. Might pay to measure up when the case arrive

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