Can You Be Bought? and How Do You Feel about It?

T1OOO on 04/12/2018 - 12:44
Last edited 04/12/2018 - 19:20 by 1 other user

Hi all,

just a bit of a back story i moved to Sydney a few months ago. i found it interesting and moved down from Adelaide to be closer to my brother (well mainly his new born baby). Anyways, i was lucky enough to find a decent job 6 figures and all was good. I work in IT in Adelaide and have been very successful there and was earning almost double contracting where as this is perm. I gave the new employer my word i would stay there for at least 12 months. now for me my word means a lot. So this new company made a few offers, significantly more than what im on, almost $50k more, but i turned them down all down. Thinking back to my word, and integrity It was very hard thing to do but thought i put it to get - and i was happy. After all i am an ozbargainer at heart and Sydney is very expensive so i felt i couldnt be bought! A few days ago, they basically upped the offer and added another $100k ontop. The package is about $300,000 pa. its basically an offer i cant turn down, i realise that and im gona take it, but how do i reconcile my conscious? or is it a non issue for most people? I used to think i cant be bought but now im not sure, i have to take it , this will set me up for life quickly. Have you ever been bought off? whats your price that you coudlnt say no too?

hmmm

update:

Ok just some more info on why I feel bad.

/Brag accusers please turn away.

I was a big fish in Adelaide I was getting over $200k pa (but that was contracting). When I tried to get a job in Sydney, I found it hard, discouraging and generally unpleasant. No one would basically give me the time of day. All the recruiters didn’t know me and made me jump through hoops for non-existent jobs and when I told them what I wanted (which was ever under market) they cut me off and never heard for them or returned my phone calls or emails. These guys gave me a chance and made all this possible. See in Adelaide I had a house paid off and could have retired very soon, working for well I dono why mostly cos its expected and day time tv isn’t that great. The people at the new company were also very nice and down to earth even in the interview, they were very “Adelaidean”. But seeing house prices in Sydney and having to pay so much rent which I hadn’t factored in as much means i wouldn’t have taken it and kept searching so I made a mistake… in hindsight. I consider the opposite, what if I turn it down and stay, will I be happy will I regret it for life? I dono, I really don’t, I suspect probably.

Anyways, I guess I have my answer, the reason why we go to work is for the money, the life it provides and also the freedom we are trying to get, not because we lover it.

oh and if all this was fake id say its $600 or $800 something stupid like that.

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Comments

          • gentlecrack on 07/12/2018 - 08:28

            @T1OOO: Oh, that's normal then. When you compare contract rates with salaries, you have to deduct other benefits. Considering you taken 5 off days a year other than public holidays, furlough etc., the figures do add up.

            • If you have ~780 daily rate excluding super, that would be ~203k p.a.
            • If you are offered a daily rate of ~1160 excluding super in the new position, that would cut 300k p.a. But I am curious as to why some company would go for such high contract rates for long contracts.

            What programming language are you specialized in?

  • bargainjargon on 06/12/2018 - 19:09

    I'd stick around if I gave my word. Maybe I'll mention that I'm getting offered better elsewhere and see if they can increase my pay a bit. If not, I'd stay for the 12 months since that's what I said. Especially if they're good people. BUT if it was someone else I'd tell them to take the better offer since I'm not the one going against my word, they are. But if employers are good people, maybe they'd understand that you have to take the much better offer.

  • GourmetFoodie on 06/12/2018 - 20:29

    Congrats dude on the pay.
    Can I ask what type of IT?

    • serpserpserp on 06/12/2018 - 20:52

      Level 1 Tech Support.

    • Nads2407 on 07/12/2018 - 11:34

      call centre

  • serpserpserp on 06/12/2018 - 20:52
    +2

    OzBrag.

  • luffyex2010 on 06/12/2018 - 20:56

    Congrats you are part of the top 5% range of high income earners in AU.

    300k ….the ATO loves you.

  • Homr on 06/12/2018 - 21:00
    +1

    Can I borrow some money OP? Please…

  • FrozenFred on 06/12/2018 - 22:56
    -1

    Surprised there's not been much hate comments on here. Good to see a positive community! And damn that's some real dough. Kike 4x more than me lol

  • jordanman on 06/12/2018 - 23:49
    +2

    Could not understand what you said. It hurt my head reading it.

    • smuggler on 08/12/2018 - 15:20

      that's why he works in IT

  • subywagon on 07/12/2018 - 01:25

    What area in IT do you work in? I need a career change…

  • syousef on 07/12/2018 - 07:50

    Clearly you deal with an "I'm getting $300k" humble brag where you metaphorically whip yourself on a public bargain forum for not keeping your word under the guise of asking for advice. Then you double down when people call you out on it. Does your new employer realize what a bargain they're getting?

    Your cost of living here is going to be higher. And if your new job doesn't work out, that isn't going to change. So I hope your IT skills are really worth $300k and are in high demand, because I've seen good people languish after losing a job. That is assuming your field isn't actually fantasy fiction.

  • lnq on 07/12/2018 - 09:42

    300k is nothing compared to this kid https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-04/top-youtube-earner…
    OP desire it, it is just a wake up call :) for those who are not able to make it.

  • Shiny Mew on 07/12/2018 - 11:01

    Who said there's no money anymore working in IT?

  • TightTerry on 07/12/2018 - 11:01
    +1

    As a fellow IT worker im curious. What line of IT do you work in? Consulting, project work? Internal management? Niche techy/dev?

    • [Deactivated] on 11/12/2018 - 18:28

      Some fields pay a ridiculous amount. $300k is pocket change for AI developers.

  • jsheroes on 07/12/2018 - 11:58
    +3

    If you tell your current employer you turned down an extra 50k, but have now been offered an extra 100k, no reasonable boss will begrudge you going. Either they offer to pony up extra, or let you go with their blessing. Any other reaction is stupid.

  • daleyboy79 on 07/12/2018 - 12:01

    Quite simple, tell your current employer about the offer, give them a chance to respond, if they cant match or get close then off ya go

  • gimme on 07/12/2018 - 12:50
    -1

    You're asking on the wrong forum. You'll generally get some hate on the internet anyway (jealousy, insecurity, tall poppy etc) but this place isn't where you should be talking about making 300K. Sure there's some very smart and successful people on here. After all, managing your expenditure is how you get rich but the majority are kids, students and people living month by month. Also imo it's a stupid question anyway. Why would I care about what some random internet warrior thinks about my integrity and personal choices?

  • THICKnSLOW on 07/12/2018 - 14:39

    Returning to Sydney means you'd better grease up your arse and prepare to be forked over

    • T1OOO on 07/12/2018 - 18:10
      -1

      We’re talking about my experience here not your Saturday nights champ.

  • LUTSlit on 07/12/2018 - 20:54

    You want to move just to be closer to your brother's new baby? Gross.

    • smuggler on 08/12/2018 - 15:21

      Go back to the soy lattes. Some people actually like kids.

      • T1OOO on 08/12/2018 - 16:27

        Apart from my brother only imidiate family I got. Took a lot to get me down. Some people are just strange.

  • iTaco on 07/12/2018 - 21:01
    +1

    What do you even do in IT that makes 200-300k a year?

    Not being a dick or anything just genuinely curious as I keep seeing IT threads pop up saying they earn triple figures.

    • Xiaomi on 08/12/2018 - 09:04

      Triple figures can be 100K which is common

      • Croshema on 08/12/2018 - 09:50

        He did specify $200-300k as well.

        • Xiaomi on 08/12/2018 - 10:37

          I know, but I'm making it clear that triple figures CAN mean 100K which is common…

    • smuggler on 08/12/2018 - 15:20

      Pretty normal in IT. Fairly draining work

      • iTaco on 08/12/2018 - 15:53

        But what is it? Like coding and the sort of thing?

        • smuggler on 08/12/2018 - 16:04

          Managing IT Infrastructure, Enterprise software and hardware solutions, ensuring security, compliance, network architecture etc.

        • T1OOO on 08/12/2018 - 16:29

          Yes. But given everything is digital it’s a lot more important now. I’m not used to this salary. It was just a bidding war, kind of silly like the Sydney housing market.

  • 00000000 on 08/12/2018 - 07:22

    My 2 cents on the OP

    To get that salary range you either need to be in sales, or have an industry certificate that a company needs.
    Take cisco for example. If you have all the cisco certificates, a company will pay you a ridiculous amount to have you, just so they can get super mega gold wiz bang partner status. When your company achieves that level they get better pricing and support from cisco.

  • jtc13 on 08/12/2018 - 07:32
    +1

    I started my career with principles just like you. Fast forward 20 years and 2 redundancies later you realise that loyalty in business is only ever temporary. Take the money and don't feel bad. Explain it to your boss and I would be shocked if he/she did not understand with those numbers. He/she will have the opportunity to match it or say congratulations and that they understand.

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