Moving to Another State with Limited Money and No Accommodation

Limme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:07
Last edited 09/02/2019 - 11:33 by 1 other user

Hi

So basically I'm looking at moving to another state NSW to VIC. This is to see my kids more, now I've been looking into what I can do to make this happen but every avenue I'm seeking seems to be a dead end

Here's a list of what I've tried so far, keep in mind I'm still waiting on payments as I have recently left work due to injury not by cause of work.

Motels - Average $89-$119 per day
Hotels - Average $100+ per day
Hostels - Often booked out and have curfews at least the ones I've been to have them in place.
Backpacker hotels - Already been denied as I'm not a backpacker.
Car Living - Tried one night in the car woke up with more sore bones than before.
Dept of housing - Cannot even start application until payments come in.
Camping grounds - most allow up to a week before asked to leave.

I have got job interviews lined up, how ever even if I get said jobs I have no where to stay to actually start work.

I'd love some feed back from people who have done this before and what they did to make it work?

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Comments

  • hypie on 09/02/2019 - 11:13
    +3

    AirBnB, just find a nice host with a spare room or a granny flat. Depending on the location it should be around $50 or less a night.

    My 30 second search found melbourne CBD found something like this: $63.00 x 3 nights (room only). Search outside of the city and close to public transport and you will save even more.

    p.s. I don't like AirBnb the company, absolutely useless service when things go wrong. So do your research/reviews of hosts. AirBnb don't give a damn about the customer.

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:54

      will look into this, thanks.

      • Kangal on 11/02/2019 - 13:24
        +1

        How about a solution like this?
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmalslYVYqI

        (It's a Stealth Van/Off-grid/Custom camper car)
        (Park in good residential places, Blackout the window/seals, Use some cheap thermal insulation, Store your bike, toilet/shower in public amenities, junk/fast-food and portable cooker, get large capacity batteries for other things like phone, laptop, speaker, lights, fans, cooling, heating… and charge using public outlets)

  • dust on 09/02/2019 - 11:18
    +2

    Backpacker hotels - Already been denied as i'm not a backpacker

    Is this different to a backpackers hostel? You don't need to be a backpacker to stay in one of these? (And they are generally well located in the city and easily less than $50 a night, but you will be sharing a room.)

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:55

      Sorry i meant hostel, i tried about 5 of them in the last few days they said that i needed to be homeless and on foot then told they cant help me since i drive.

      • Donaldhump on 09/02/2019 - 12:23
        +2

        Can you book through Expedia, once you have paid can’t really deny you

      • dust on 09/02/2019 - 12:29
        +2

        I've booked/slept in a number of backpacker hostels in Melbourne the past few years and have had no issues. I just booked online before getting there.

      • Randxyz123 on 09/02/2019 - 13:42
        +2

        What? Just book on hostel world or booking.com

        They aren't going to deny you if you've paid. You just need to find somewhere to park.

        Try to find a sharehouse, I recommend fairyfloss real estate, a facebook group.

        Show that you have funds in your bank account, enough to cover the bond and rent+bills you might be ok.

        Another option is contact air bnb hosts directly and negotiate a room for a cheaper rate? They can still put everything through air bnb and send a personalised offer. You say you have accommodation for $100 a fortnight. Going to be hard to find something better.

      • Love a bargain on 09/02/2019 - 19:58
        +2

        They're never limited to people with backpacks only (although some might have age limit). I have stayed in plenty of them and I don't even own a large backpacker size backpack. Just book a bed for a week or 2 (there's no need to tell them your story - why you're there is no one else's business) & look for a share house once you're there. (Gumtree is a good place to start.)

      • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 01:18
        +1

        Book backpacker hostels online and make payment beforehand. They cannot refuse you once you have paid, without you doing something wrong.
        Get a YHA card, to make you look more like a legit backpackers.
        The backpacker hostels without a doubt, tend to discriminate against Australians that would like accommodation there. I have been told by owners/managers of the backpacker hostels, it is because Australians have caused trouble in the past, so they want to avoid it. Unfair to Australians who are going to do the right thing though.
        I got completely blamed by manager for stealing something just because I'm Australian. The same manager ended up buying that particular YHA, and now lets Aussies stay there (including homeless). He has chilled alot over the years since back then. So not all discriminate unfairly against Australians, but most do.
        Having a YHA card, and not talking about your personal dramas and crisis etc, and getting a backpack (cheap from opshop), will go along way with being accepted to stay at these places, even for more than your original booking. And with original booking, (paid online) if you book for a week, do nothing wrong, I can't see they are going to kick you out before the paid period is up.
        There is opportunity to do long stays at backpacker hostels for free also, you do cleaning each day to cover free rent. This very much depends how you come across in your initial period of staying there.
        If you get along with everyone there (just be really nice to everyone, and really polite, and don't talk about your dramas) then they're much more likely to want to keep you round to work there. Plenty of them are desperate for good workers. It's bit of a crappy gig, but hey if you're in a tight spot, why not stay rent free in return for 2-4 hours work per day. Be happy to clean toilets for 2 hours a day for accommodation, and don't grumble about it while doing the job there.
        Never will get a job on first arrival, but certainly chances once they get to know you for a week, and see that you're someone they want to keep around. Every backpacker hostel I have stayed at (and I have stayed and worked for approx 2 years at diff ones) is run mostly by free labour of travelers working for accommodation. They have more shortage of workers in off season though tbh. They won't be needing you as much in summer on gold coast, compared to winter, for example. But they still need a similar amount of people to clean the place during winter, so it's easier (less competition for work for accommodation) when it's off season.

  • [Deactivated] on 09/02/2019 - 11:27

    Are you coming from NSW where you have a permanent living arrangement or is it the same there?

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:56

      I have temporary arrangements at the moment how ever rent is $100 a fortnight

      • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 01:33

        I have temporary arrangements at the moment how ever rent is $100 a fortnight

        You could probably find something like this, by going to free meal/lunch places, food vans etc, where homeless/poor people frequent. And could find someone with public housing and floor, couch, or even spare room, they might rent cheap for the short term for extra cash.
        This, would be a last resort though, as anyone who would agree to this, would almost certainly have substance abuse problem.. Some would just be alcoholics and pot smokers I guess. I know an old schizophrenic hippie alcoholic fellah that often lets people in because he is lonely, and doesn't says it sends him crazy being alone. He, would be your 'best case' scenario though. Many that would be willing/wanting to rent a room or couch out cheap for cash, would be much worse and bad influence for you to be round while trying to get life back on track.

  • Quantumcat on 09/02/2019 - 11:36
    +6

    Join a national chain gym, sleep in your car and use the gym to take showers and get changed. Some even include free breakfast. You won't have to worry about running out of money this way, even if it takes you a long time to get a job. The day before any interview or first day at a new job etc you could treat yourself to a night at a hotel.

    To make it more comfortable, invest in a wagon style car (sell your current one after) and take the back seats off, and get a thin mattress to make yourself a little bed.

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:57

      i forgot about this for the shower purpose thanks, at the moment my cars a 2 door hatchback i could possibly make it work more comfortable and jump from camp site to camp site.

  • bazingaa on 09/02/2019 - 11:45

    Try to find a share house mate

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 11:57

      any suggestions on how i can start looking for that, since im not on a regular pay and living off savings no one wants to even look at me

      • [Deactivated] on 09/02/2019 - 18:16
        +7

        Pay in advance. I once had a bikie ask to move into my share house. He could see I was discouraged so offered to pay 6 months rent in advance.

        I accepted and he pretty much didn't leave the house for 6 months.. once a week to the shops after dark to do some shopping - kept his bike locked up in a back shed I had and didn't use it.

        Nice fella.. used to cook my mates and I a roast every weekend ;) After 6 months he just said a warm goodbye and left. I figure he was running from other bikies or the police but had no reason to cause him any trouble by snooping around.

      • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 00:39

        not on a regular pay and living off savings no one wants to even look at me

        You don't get a regular payment from centrelink ?
        Would be good to have an idea of savings amount you have. Just because What's considered little and limited money, is highly subjective . Ie. Are we talking 10k or we talking more down to your last $10, kind of situation. Makes a huuuuge difference IMHO, as to what solutions might be viable.

  • Donaldhump on 09/02/2019 - 12:14

    Can you just move camp site every week. Drive to a cheaper one on outskirts on weekend.

    Just act as if you are on holiday. Might be fun to have some variety.

    If in car, can you Sleep a few hours during the day in the botanical gardens or beach, people just assume you are on lunch break maybe. Least can stretch your back.

    Any chance to get job over Skype before you go

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 12:25

      i can do this by sleeping in my car is painful its a option but one id prefer not to use. with moving from camp site to camp site i have thought of that but there is limited sites to when i need to be

      • Donaldhump on 09/02/2019 - 12:31
        +1

        It’s only temporary as long as on a train line to where you need to be 4 weeks in a permanent but far away spot would be toelerable with the aim to move closer eventuwlly. I stayed ina tent for 3 weeks in England and it was ok, my work colleagues had nfi

    • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 01:25

      Can you just move camp site every week. Drive to a cheaper one on outskirts on weekend.

      I don't think camp sites have a 1 week limit. They do have limits by law but I know in nsw at least, it is certainly more than 1 week. The caravan park isn't allowed by law to have permanent long term residents. But it is more than 1 week allowed.

      I'm thinking plenty of national parks are probably different, allow longer stays than caravan parks, still not permanent.

  • swapsey on 09/02/2019 - 12:16
    +11

    Housesitting. You could get some gigs looking after pets and houses. Some are for extended periods as people want their place looked after, lawns mowed etc while going on long overseas trips. Free accommodation just for doing a few jobs like walking a dog each day etc. Search for housesitting Melbourne and you'll find plenty of websites, the top ones are obvious cause they have the most listings. Seems like one of the most popular is Aussie House Sitters.

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 12:24

      wow thanks for the link will definitely give that a shot.

      • swapsey on 09/02/2019 - 12:26
        +1

        The secret will be providing references, even if they're from friends, that you are good with pets. You could also do a one or two day dog walking/obedience class somewhere and put that certificate in when you apply for a housesitting job. And be ready for face to face interviews. Credibility is key.

        • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 12:29

          sounds good to me and animals love me so shouldn't be problem just the money is still an issue at the moment so while its the best option i have at the moment ill need to wait for payment first

          • swapsey on 09/02/2019 - 12:33

            @imme1386: Do you own anything? Sell stuff on gumtree to fund your housesitting adventure, it will be worth it to have a stable place to live and then you can get more funds after that.

            • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 12:41

              @swapsey: nah dont really own anything thats worth selling i did all that when i moved out of my house

  • holdenmg on 09/02/2019 - 13:02
    +2

    Check out:
    https://www.yha.com.au/hostels/vic/melbourne-hostels/

    Many YHA have jobs boards.

    Also:
    http://www.greenhousebackpacker.com.au/
    (Tip: Don't be near the lift as people leave at 4am for early flights)

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 15:03
      +1

      thank you for this the yha option looks like my affordable option

  • bobbified on 09/02/2019 - 13:37

    There's lots of useful information here for you already.

    keep in mind I'm still waiting on payments as I have recently left work due to injury

    When are you expecting your payments to come in and are you expecting those payments to be able to sustain your living? My own suggestion would be that you at least wait until the payments start coming before you make any moves.

    I'm not trying to sound nasty or mean, but reading your earlier responses somehow makes me feel like you're not necessarily in the clearest state of mind. Have you sat down and spoken to your mates about this? Talk through what you're plans are and how you plan on making this all work. They might also be able to give you tips.

    • imme1386 on 09/02/2019 - 15:04

      thanks for the feedback and i like all feedback and payments are within the next 2 weeks or so im pre planning now and finding the most affordable way until i get back on my feet, and with the mates question dont know anyone in melbourne besides the kids mother and they dont want me there ive almost exhausted all options so far

  • barbarella on 09/02/2019 - 15:06
    +1

    Join a local Facebook Community page in the area that you want to be eg. https://www.facebook.com/search/str/newcastle+community+noti…
    and then ask in there if someone has a room/granny flat or similar available.

  • Changskies on 09/02/2019 - 16:27
    +2

    Seems like you have zero plan, running head first.

    how much are you getting in two weeks? out of that how much is expendable cash? can you new career sustain your life? interviews doesnt mean anything. what after relocation? whats your 1 year plan? is your career growth better in Syd or Vic? can the child move here?

    so much questions you need to ask before moving man

  • elgrande on 09/02/2019 - 18:14
    +2

    I think the car option is the most affordable, with maybe a night at a motel once a week or so to break it up and if your kid is visiting.

    You could go for a swim at the beach in the early morning and wash off at the beach showers.

    Try and find a mall that offers a place to charge your phone as that will be key in finding jobs etc, and have a spare couple of power banks for the same reason.

    Use a bbq at a park for cooking, or one of those butane ones in the boot of your car.If you boil eggs that will keep you going during the day.

    Pass your free time making uber eats deliveries, will help you earn money whilst you find a role.

    Good luck

    • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 00:50
      +1

      I think the car option is the most affordable, with maybe a night at a motel once a week or so to break it up and if your kid is visiting.

      Maybe change vehicle. Get a small van, have proper matress setup in back . They seem to be wayyy too much if already fitted out. So get 1 and fit it out yourself. Start with simply a matress in back, and a cheap folding chair :) Then improve and add to that, as budget affords.
      If cannot find van cheap enough, then go for old ford or holden station wagon. They are cheap as.

  • ego22 on 09/02/2019 - 19:00
    +2

    i feel like you have one crazy story to tell..

    i would say you car is your own real option for 1-2 weeks that gym idea up there is perfect ^ no fees for a month.

  • [Deactivated] on 10/02/2019 - 00:45

    I suggest add an area you want to move to, to your post. Nit exact location, but give us a rough idea of area.
    If it is a rural area, you could probably do farm work in return for free accommodation and/or camping. Many backpackers actually do this all the time, work on farm in return for accommodation (and often food included also) .

    If you find another dad that has separated from partner, and gone through the associated dramas etc, they would be more empathetic to your situation, more likely to give a chance (only to a certain extent though, ie. If you're a massive rental risk for reasons not mentioned here, and/or not willing to pay share of rent, even the most sympathetic and kind person will turn you down).

    Long time since I was homeless, but boarding houses if they are still a thing. One way to find out about boarding houses (and pretty much any other temporary accommodation option for homeless people) is to contact places like Vinnie, Salvation army, any of the homeless hostels (all in the area your looking at) contact these type places, they often have a prepared list they give people a print out so they can calk around every single option. There is a 'homeless hotline' (was years ago, probably still is) and also for example there is a place in my area called "the homeless hub" , there is also local community centres welfare departments, all of these places (in the areas your needing to live) already have plenty of options ready to advise on (probably all done up in a list, with all phone numbers and details).

    • shadowangel on 11/02/2019 - 08:34
      +1

      Pubs have plenty of rooms available and cheap. Offer to do some work to pay for the room for awhile.

  • Hirolol on 10/02/2019 - 18:33

    Why don’t you stay in your current place for a bit longer, $100 a fortnight is pretty good.
    Get a new job and save some money

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 11/02/2019 - 09:52
    +1

    hit up flatmate.com and find yourself a cheap room ideally someone that takes cash if you arent locked into anything

    I've even seen people advertise for free rent it you help them with stuff ie people with a disability need help cleaning, gardening etc

  • samfisher5986 on 11/02/2019 - 14:42

    Definitely share housing is the way to go.

    Look for something in the $100-120 range if you are on centrelink.

    Even if you can technically afford more expensive places, most places will reject you because you don't have enough excess money for emergencies.

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