P1 License, with P2 Plates on Display?

Hi everyone, what would happen if I were to be pulled over and showed them my P1 license, with p2 license displayed on the car. I lost my p2 license recently and will intend to get one very soon. Are there any repercussions for doing so, because they can just simply check the database to confirm that I am in fact a registered p2 driver right?

EDIT: What if i display my P1 plates, given I also have my P1 license?

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  • +16 votes

    The issue will be you driving without a valid licence.

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    Loss of licence (disqualified?) or lost the physical licence card?

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      The penalty for incorrectly displayed plates is two demerit points and a fine.

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        That sounds interesting. What if i m on full license but my car still has P stickers applied.

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          that is fine but not the other way round

        • +1 vote

          Not an offence in NSW but is in Vic however you must drive to the restrictions of the plate.

          • +1 vote

            @robbyjones:

            Not an offence in NSW

            Source??

            Road Transport (Driver Licensing) Regulation 2017

            Division 2, Provisional Licenses, Clause 21
            (1) A provisional P1 licence of class C is subject to the following conditions (in addition to any other conditions that may be attached to the licence):
            (a) the holder must not drive any motor vehicle unless a sign, issued or authorised by the Authority and displaying the letter “P” in red on a white background, is displayed…

            It then goes on to say under Clause 28 for "P2" drivers;

            28 Conditions to which provisional P2 licence of class C, LR, MR or HR is subject(cf 2008 Reg cl 28)
            (1) A provisional P2 licence of class C, class LR, class MR or class HR is subject to the condition (in addition to any others that may be attached to the licence) that the holder must not drive any motor vehicle unless a sign, issued or authorised by the Authority and displaying the letter “P” in green on a white background, is displayed

            Under the conditions of the P1 and P2 Australian Road Rules 2014 legislation with regards to speed limits (NSW 24-1) I would suggest that wearing the wrong provisional plate on the car would give an officer an incorrect visual of your license conditions regarding your speed and an incorrect plate would be treated exactly the same as not having one on the vehicle. This would then fall under regulation 119 of the Road Transport Regulations.

            119 Failure to comply with licence conditions

            The condition of your provisional license in NSW is: Wear the correct P plate for your license…
            The condition of your full license is that you don't display P or L plates. Wearing a plate on full is treated the same as not having one on your L or P's (Source on this one, friend got done about a month ago with his daughters P plates on the car. Cop was nice and let them off with a warning because the copper felt that my laughing the whole time was sufficient punishment.)

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        Curious, would you get fined if you put learners plates when you got full license and trying to learn manual?

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        Demerit points for not showing plates is pretty dumb, a fine for sure, but imagine losing your license for something completely unrelated to anyone's road safety whatsoever

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    You need a new licence. The fine is a lot higher than the cost of a new licence.

  • +2 votes

    Did you just lose a physical card? it is $20 to get it replace and you can get it straight away.

    I think your P1 licence will be invalid once you got your Green's.

    If Police found out you may be charge using invalid license and not displaying correctly as to the licence you present.

    PS: I am no lawyer or policeman

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      I think that's partially right. The old license could be used as backup ID. Providing that OP had the right plates for their "correct license conditions", they would be ok.

      OP could just say that they lost or had their current license stolen and the police officer would just confirm their details on their system. The old P1 license would only be used to verify OP's identity, not their driving conditions.

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        Can you still use your expired license?

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          Last time I had mine replaced due to expiring, they punched a hole in the old one and gave it back to me and told me to hold onto it in case I lost my new one and needed ID to prove I was me.

          It won't "replace" a lost licence, but can still be used to prove to a police officer who you are.

  • +5 votes

    OP's next topic:

    Lost my P1 licence, can I use my learners licence with P1 plates.

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    I recommend you drive to a police station and enquire about it there.

  • +3 votes

    I think what op means is he lost his physical p2 card, but still has his old one which only says p1. He’s wondering whether he can still drive around carrying his p1 license, even though he’s now on p2 until he has is p2 replaced

  • +2 votes

    In NSW, once you pay $27 for the new card, they will issue you an interim license that you can print out, that you can use while the new card arrives.

    "after your payment is processed and if your application is successful, you'll be issued with a receipt and an interim NSW Driver Licence, and
    you must print out your interim licence, sign it and carry it with you when you drive until your new licence card arrives in the mail."

  • +2 votes

    Don't risk it, brother.

  • +1 vote

    I can’t wait for digital drivers license. Can’t come soon enough

  • +1 vote

    Surely this thread is a joke..

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      OP Posts then makes no further comment and does not reply to any questions.
      Maybe you are correct?

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    l00000000l

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    You are more likely to be booked for driving without a copy of your license. If your license is valid within the database, you need to drive to those conditions. If you are using your P1 as temporary ID it will help you not get a fine for driving without the valid license card, but may not prevent it.

    Go and get your new P2 license quickly.

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    Clarify 'lost'…