Hey guys, in my uni a lot of people work and just aim for pass and a lot of people repeat, if there are any employers for firms on ozbargain, when hiring a professional e.g. analyst, actuarial people and advisors, what is the most important from 1 to 4, degree, grades(aim for HD but not sure if this even matter to employers) experience, university.
Not sure to get a job and get credit/pass or not work and get HD
As the post above, it depends if you have experience in your field of study. If you have experience, then this rates at the top of your list. If you have no experience than your degree and grades will be at the top of your list.
It's mostly only graduate programs that will look at your grades. If you intend to apply for graduate programs with top companies or government departments then it is very important to do as well as possible. But if you're applying directly with companies for general entry level roles that will be less important, probably more important to have some work experience, especially if it is in an office.
Also got to consider the following
Someone working part time 20 hours a week to support themselves, is probrably expected their grades won’t be HD so 4s and 5s is ok imho., As long as you don’t fail any or only a few I think those results are equal to someone who doesn’t work and smashes 6s and 7s. Anyone who doesn’t work and just gets by, I’d question why.
I can imagine uni plus working part time is hectic as hell
Uni itself I don’t think is a huge factor,
Experience is obviously useful but the job description will state what’s required, but everyone got to start some where
Work ethic and personality very important
I hired a graduate who had a pretty ordinary gpa like about 4.2 but he work part time and he is awesome. Hired another graduate with awesome results gpa about 6, and he had no work ethic, so no golden answer
I am usually risk averse, but if you can genuinely score HD results, go for it. HD gets attention from top shelf employers, and puts you on track for 1% earnings. Go for it. D or C is adequate, and is fine if you can’t get top shelf results, but if you can get them, exploit that.
To put it another way, HD results make employers compete for you, otherwise you are competing for jobs.
Personally, if I had that capability (I don’t) I would happily take on $100k of student debt to be in mix to get employed rather than score lesser grades. I truly believe it is easily worth that in improved earnings.
I should moderate that comment to say if it is HD in a suitable course. HD in a made up degree from western Sydney in event management or something is marginal, but HD in a sandstone University will result in job offers from KPMG or Deloitte or similar and be useful.
Doing business degree in uts
Depends what you want to do - eg continue study you'll want to maintain grades to make acceptance into further courses easier
Some graduate roles don’t consider grades
Just do the best you can while managing life
Doing business degree in uts
Matters less, but try your best. If you're joining a start up it's the entrepreneurial flair and work rate you exhibit that counts. If you're going for a corporate role, you don't want to appear a lot smarter than the hiring manager or that you'll be gunning for their job in no time (so if you've got good grades, you might struggle to get some jobs!).
actuarial science, management consulting
Aim for straight A's, HD's - if you have to ask, these roles are not for you and you will struggle to get in. These students are already the brightest of their year and probably dux of their high school. Their grades differentiate themselves from other similar candidates and also signal their intelligence and diligence to the employer. They will be working with/advising senior management early in their career so will need to rely on their intelligence to do so, which their grades signal. Obviously interpersonal skills are an important hiring factor.
Hmmm well, I can't say much since I dropped out of uni, but I had more experience in work + great references, managed to land a job with better progression than my graduate friends luckily. Grades are important but I think experiences, interpersonal skills and references play a bigger part IMHO
If you have experience, grades dont really matter. Unless you’re being compared to someone with good grades AND also has experience. Most important factor is luck.
So if I have experience and got a pass in every single unit then it wouldn’t matter
Experience > grades, from what I have seen. Experience has to be relevant to your field though.
I applied for quite a lot of jobs after I finished uni, typically depends, if you apply for a random job, they probably won't take your grades too much into account as long as you have your degree, but you need experience to back you up. If you're applying for graduate programs and similar then they typically ask for a credit or distinction average, some want a 75 or higher. Very few (but still some do) will ask why you failed or tell you not to add subjects that you failed in.
I do know some people who were HD average (or close to it) and they got asked for a job before they completed uni, so if you're going for HD overall thats a good way to go, I have no idea how it worked exactly though.
Usually experience and fit will count for a lot, when you finish your degree your competing for a job with a bunch of other people who have also finished a degree for the same job, so you need to stand out somehow, and experience is big in showing you know what you're doing (along with good cultural fit and communication etc etc).
At least thats been my experience.