SureFire Stiletto Rechargeable Flashlight $139.75 + $8.28 Delivery (Free w/ Prime) @ Amazon AU

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eug on 03/06/2019 - 09:59 amazon.com.au (325 clicks)
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Yes, cheap Chinese torches are good value, but just like how some people prefer iPhones or Galaxys to Pocophones, some people prefer American-made Surefire torches.

This is the cheapest it has ever been according to the Camel and the Amazon US price.

It's a slim torch with built-in rechargeable battery that does 650 lumens for 1.75 hours, 250 lumens for 2 hours, and 5 lumens for 30 hours. The slim profile means it sits in your pocket more comfortably than cylindrical torches.

The beam pattern is very floody so it's good for any close-up work or more situational awareness in an area. It charges over micro USB (should have been type-C!) and is IPX7-rated for water resistance (30 mins, 1 meter).

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Surefire has announced a Stiletto Pro with 1000 lumens and an aluminium body, but pricing hasn't been released yet. It's probably going to be at least US$150 I think.

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  Tigerhacker on 03/06/2019 - 10:11

  +1

  SureFire Unisex-Adult SureFire PLR Stiletto

  Is this a flashlight, or an item of cloating? Does it come in kids sizes?

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  dust on 03/06/2019 - 10:12

  That's a lot of money for not that many lumens.

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    eug on 03/06/2019 - 10:18

    To me, it's not all about lumens. On all my torches, I rarely use the highest lumens range as I find them too bright for everyday tasks. The form factor of this one is what makes it attractive to me.

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      dust on 03/06/2019 - 10:22

      On all my torches, I rarely use the highest lumens range

      I agree. (Better to use less light and let your eyes adjust.)

      Do you own this torch? What do you use it for?

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        eug on 03/06/2019 - 10:31

        I don't, but it's in my cart now, just making sure I really want to buy another torch. :)

        I've got a whole bunch of torches now, but still haven't found the perfect one. I often work on things in dark places like under desks, in car engine bays, inside ceilings, behind other equipment, when camping, etc.

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          dust on 03/06/2019 - 10:38

          @eug: If that's the case, wouldn't a head torch or a right angle light (Zebralight/Armytek or cheaper alternative) be much more versatile assuming you're working with your hands?

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            eug on 03/06/2019 - 10:59

            @dust: I do have a Zebralight H600 and Nitecore HC30, but the 90 degree head means when I don't need to head-mount it, I can't hold it in my mouth for quicker tasks. I have a Black Diamond headlamp which I actually prefer as it's more compact and lighter than the 18650 lights, but I don't want to carry so many lights in my bag.

            My most frequently-used torch is the Thrunite T10S which I'm quite happy with, but the lack of a battery indicator means it can die suddenly, and I might not have remembered to pack an extra AA. I also have a Nitecore TIP, but it too doesn't have a battery indicator and I can't just swap out the battery. I just bought a TUP - the OLED screen gives the remaining runtime in hours and minutes which is fantastic! But the square profile makes it a little chunky, it doesn't sit well when I clip it to the strapping on my bag. It's also a little harder to mouth-hold as it's pretty thick, and the rattling plastic buttons make it sound cheap.

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              ebosh on 03/06/2019 - 12:49

              @eug: After the way Surefire carried on with the 4/7's patent infringement lawsuit, I will never buy their stuff out of principle. That, and they are way overpriced for what you get.

              Based on your explainer of what you use your lights for, it sounds to me like you need* an Emisar D4 with the 95CRI emitter (4000k/3000k is personal preference) and the shorty 18350 tube. Grab a couple of spare 18350 cells to keep on you if you need long run-time, and you'll be good to go. The UI allows you to check voltage levels, and the D4 has low voltage protection so if you aren't comfortable with Li-ion cells then you are OK(ish) in that regard as well. Glue a strong magnet to the tailcap and it becomes even more versatile.

              *Nobody ever "needs" more than a few lights but that hasn't stopped me from collecting in excess of 35 over the years…

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                meatgasm on 03/06/2019 - 15:03

                @ebosh: The emisar D4S has the option of a magnetic tail cap …and is brighter and has more thermal mass.

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                  ebosh on 03/06/2019 - 17:16

                  @meatgasm:

                  option of a magnetic tail cap

                  My resolve to NOT buy one is weakening with this information…

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                eug on 03/06/2019 - 22:05

                @ebosh:

                Based on your explainer of what you use your lights for, it sounds to me like you need* an Emisar D4 with the 95CRI emitter (4000k/3000k is personal preference) and the shorty 18350 tube.

                Thanks for the recommendation! I'm not sure about an 18xxx torch body though, it's feels a bit large for my mouth. I bought a Surefire L4 yeaaaars ago (17670 cell), before the Chinese companies were around, and even with the L4's low-profile design, I found it uncomfortable for mouth-holding.

                That's why this SureFire piqued my interest… the flat design looks more comfortable for my mouth. Weird reason to choose a torch, I know!

                I don't dare count the number of torches I've bought over the years! Waaay too many.

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              thelastnoob on 04/06/2019 - 02:19

              @eug: Nitecore tip has battery indicator
              Press the top button to see up to 3 flashes
              3 flashes means over 50% power

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                eug on 04/06/2019 - 10:03

                @thelastnoob: You're right. It's not a very granular indicator, but it's there. I would prefer a single-glance battery meter like the one on the Surefire (green, yellow, red, flashing red) which is always on, though. That way I'm always aware of the charge level without having to press a button and count flashes every time.

                I actually quite like the TIP, I just wish it didn't get so hot when used for a while. The flat profile and light weight is perfect for mouth-holding, but it gets quite uncomfortable as it heats up.

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  Black Hole on 03/06/2019 - 21:29

  Can't find replacement battery when it died. Not for me.

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    eug on 03/06/2019 - 22:05

    SureFire will replace them for you. Not sure how much it'll cost though! I suspect they'll just give you a replacement torch.

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  Lionheart on 04/06/2019 - 06:52

  Use my Nitecore Tip daily (going strong after 2 years), can get like 5 of them for this price. But if you like American made…

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    eug on 04/06/2019 - 10:10

    But if you like American made…

    …and higher brightness, longer battery life, a more durable housing, and a larger (yet still flat-profile) body for a more secure grip. Yes, there are other Nitecores that would match (apart from the flat profile), but we were specifically talking about the Tip vs Stiletto.

    There's absolutely no denying the Nitecore's value, but just like how some people prefer a Galaxy over a Pocophone, some people prefer a Surefire over a Nitecore. Or they just buy both and enjoy the best of both worlds. :)