Been keeping an eye out for this LEGO Star Wars millennium falcon UCS set, and with the eBay PLUTO 20% off, it brings it down to $875.20 delivered. RRP is $1299 and best current price I could find is at the Hobby Warehouse online store for $1085.
I used eBay gift cards to reduce further.
Best previous price was this deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/440459
Oh for the love of God…
You can't even reliably buy Lepin any more given the Chinese authorities closed down their production facilities and seized their assets 2 months ago after their lost the landmark court case against The Lego Group, meaning most of their stock has been pulled from Chinese sites like AliExpress and the stock that does remain out there is now inflated in price and hard to find.
Even if you could, it's still sh*t.
I always buy Lego, I've bought my kids a tonne of it over the years but I was tempted to buy a Poe Dameron X-Wing set last well from AliExpress for $30 as it's getting very expensive now in Lego. It arrived yesterday, 5 days from China and is not sh*t. It's actually 99% identical in quality. The pieces seem to shine a little different and the minifigs are just a little off on the printing (like yes, just a little) but that's really it.
People protecting Lego as if they're shareholders… Lego is just another symptom of massive cooperations doing anything and everything for a buck at their expense.
If people want to buy off brand and cheaper versions,go for it. People insulting other people because of their purchasing habits are the real flogs.
@Frayin: I hope you invest heaps into developing a product only to be ripped off by copycats and go bankrupt.
Just because lego was successful and is now a massive company, and yes overcharges, doesn't make it OK.
There's no reason Lepin couldn't come up with their own designs and survive perfectly legitimately. It was simply more profitable to steal.
Lego is just another symptom of massive cooperations doing anything and everything for a buck at their expense.
Yes and Lepin are a modern-day incarnation of Robin Hood, only looking to redistribute wealth and not at all concerned with maximising profit.
Well you'd better stop consuming 90% of the goods you purchase on those grounds then.
I love how you attempted to make this a moral argument, where the alternative to a supposedly unethical/dishonest mega-corporation is a scummy Chinese one that runs sweatshops in a country renowned for its complete lack of human rights, whose entire business model is outright theft with zero innovation and not just of Lego's designs but random designs sourced from Lego fan communities (unlike even other Lego-compatible clone manufacturers who are capable of having an original idea). Those guys definitely give a toss about you and your right to a fair price and aren't trying to absolutely fleece as much of your disposable income as possible while their Ponzi scheme holds. Excellent display of gymnastics right there.
People insulting other people because of their purchasing habits are the real flogs.
No. The parakeets who keep appearing in every single Lego deal posted on OzB in the last 2 years to chime in like broken records about how people should buy Lepin are the morons.
What part about this deal being for buyers of real Lego posted by someone who evidently prefers real Lego, is so difficult to grasp?
It's the equivalent of spamming watch deals with comments like "just buy a fake in Thailand" or Netflix/Blu-Ray deals with "just download it on The Pirate Bay".
Dollars to doughnuts none of you hypocrites would defend comments like that on a deal (since they've been universally negged in the past), but here you are essentially doing the same thing because according to your baffling logic, the greater price difference between real Lego and Lepin somehow justifies it.
Yes, we know counterfeit goods exist and that corporations are interested in maximising their profits. Thank you wise sages who keep bringing up Lepin.
The thing is, counterfeit goods don't constitute the same experience nor product you get when buying the real article. There is a difference. The Pirate Bay won't give you a physical Blu-Ray disc that will guarantee the maximum video/audio quality and your fake Omega from Thailand doesn't come with a warranty.
This isn't an ethical and moral argument about IP law and copyright infringement, it's an argument about relevance and buyer's choice. This deal is for those who've already made up their mind and want the cheapest price for a real UCS Millennium Falcon
Fake Lego IS DIFFERENT, that's the point. There are notable, significant differences and for the sake of posterity and hammering it home to passers-by who may be confused about why it's important to point this out time and again when morons keep bringing up Lepin like they've discovered the world's best-kept secret, see this list here.
By all means, post some amazing deal for a Lepin UCS Millennium Falcon, but just don't forget to mention that the Lepin knock-off model will come with no outer box, no numbered bags, a knock-off manual with Chinglish and/or misspelled sticker sheets, and most importantly: missing pieces, broken pieces, the wrong pieces for your set, bent or deformed pieces with no parts replacement policy from the seller. Then let's see how many people would still prefer Lepin.
That's my issue with all the die-hard Lepin advocates; like their Chinese beneficiaries they refuse to be upfront about exactly what you get when you buy Lepin. The attitude is just "buy it and see"; and given the piss-poor returns policies and disregard for customer satisfaction displayed by most Lepin sellers online, some people won't appreciate being duped. Some may not mind I'll concede, but at least be honest with people instead of pretending Lepin is exactly like real Lego, when it isn't.
@Gnostikos: For what it’s worth, I was given the Lepin UCS Falcon.
No missing pieces. No broken or bent pieces. No wrong pieces. There were over 300 pieces leftover. Yes, they were in unnumbered bags but the quality impressed me.
On the flip side, I’ve bought LEGO sets that have had missing and wrong pieces. LEGO instruction manuals can be poor and at times have mistakes. And rarely does LEGO provide a generous amount of extra pieces.
Lepin is not perfect. And neither is LEGO.
Which is better? LEGO by far.
So, the main question is should you buy Lepin on moral grounds?
Well, have you illegally downloaded a movie? Have you saved an image that wasn’t yours? Have you cracked a disc to save it to your hard drive? Shared software against the EULA? Bypassed geoblocking? Have you ever watched a movie that was uploaded to a Tube site even though it has a watermark or banner saying it belongs on another?
There are many illegal things people do on a daily basis. They often involve other people’s IP. But we just get on with our lives without batting an eyelid. People justify their purchasing, listening and viewing behaviour for all sorts of reasons.
The same goes with buying Lepin or LEGO.
I wish people wouldn’t buy the former. I wish the latter was cheaper. And I’ll let people make their own buying decisions.
@Gnostikos: /mic drop
I found myself swinging both sides of your post. And I think you covered them in detail & fairly.
I think the price is crazy, but I also appreciate the quality is incomparable. Apples vs Oranges.
@Ulysses31: The quality is comparable. At least in the Poe Dameron X-Wing we made. Zero missing pieces, zero broken pieces, maybe 15-20 spare pieces which is the same as you'd have in a Lego set this size.
The only issue was there canopy didn't quite sit flush, I googled it and found that substituting a couple of very small pieces fixed it 100%. The only gripe is the mini-fig helmet visors weren't opaque. Other than that it's excellent. Extremely sturdy and is getting mounted on the wall between a real Lego Falcon and a real Lego Tie Interceptor.
I think I paid $32 delivered from Wish. $150-$200 in Lego.
Betrayal at cloud city is also just $365.76 from same seller with code PLUTO
That set has a long way to fall
Been on sale at that price for 5 days 1 sold shows the excitement. Needs to hit a new low below $800 to maybe clear some .
No it hasn’t been on sale for the entire period, as it’s just come back into stock tonight - the one purchased was me just before
Very close to the all-time Australian low.
If you've been on the fence about this set, now is the time to get it, as it will likely be retired soon given its nearly 2-year production run (which is the historical maximum period of time Lego will keep a set in production) and the fact that it reached its peak pricing discounts a while back.
You do know how long the UCS death star 10188 was in production before retired in 2015, right? Not to mention the nearly identical re-release of 75159 in 2016 and still going now. Last time i heard about retire plan for 75192 was way past 2022.
Yes, as I said below to the other poster, that is one of the only exceptions to the more-or-less 2 year production runs 95% of Lego sets will see. These days those life spans are only getting shorter as Lego's release cycle has become insanely more jam-packed every calendar year and they're licensing God knows how many IPs these days.
And as I said below, given the production run of the 2007 UCS Falcon was a little over 2 years, it makes sense that the 75192 Falcon will follow a similiar pattern.
Realistically, they can't sell the 75192 Falcon for much cheaper than this, the freight and logistics costs to ship these behemoth, 13kg boxes around the world that are the size of old CRT televisions put a serious dent in their profit margins and this was never a very profitable set to begin with anyway; more just fan service for AFOLs.
You do realise that stores buy them in bulk and sell them way over the price of what they buy it for, 100- 150& markup. Ie. Myer no doubt would also get a discount for bulk buying and promotions. Your argument for cost of freight and logistics doesn't make sense.
@Melb69: And seafreight is a joke (cheap), when done professionally/commercially. Air freight a 100kg skid routinely, then cry with me 😁
The Volkswagen set 10220 has been in production since 2011 and Parisian Restaurant set 10243 since 2014. That's just 2 sets I can think of off the top of my head with way longer than 2 year production runs.
Those are the few exceptions to the rule and they're not apples-to-apples comparisons anyway, since they're different lines with different markets. The UCS Falcons were largely AFOL-targeted products. Repost from an old post I linked above:
The original 2007 UCS Millennium Falcon was released in July, 2007 and production ended on October 30th, 2009. That's a little over 2 years in total, and that set was a lot more unprecedented/hyped in Lego history. According to Camel, it was discounted by a maximum of 30% off RRP by the end of 2008 (in USD pricing; I assume Australia would have followed a similar trend for local stock but back then Lego's regional pricing differed even more substantially, so we may have never seen local stock selling for 30% off RRP).
75192's RRP in Australia was $1,300 and the historical low as of now was $831.97 delivered in February 2019 (and that deal had fairly limited stock). That's 36% off RRP, which is historically is the maximum discount sets of this size ever receive.
The 75159 Deathstar's (4,000 pieces) price history hit a historical low of 37% off RRP and that set has been in production since September 2016 now (which is really a major anomaly amongst any Lego lines).
I think unless you're willing to scour Gumtree and eBay later on for fast-disappearing stocks of 75192, now is as good a time as any to get this monstrosity for what is a really good price by any measure, before it becomes exceedingly difficult.
The UCS Millennium Falcon will most likely be retired soon in time for the new UCS Imperial Star Destroyer
Just got the old version recently for a great price - but I'm ready for a new version as well. Love the ISD but it'll be expensive - about $1,199 AUD.
Just got the old version recently for a great price
Really? Sealed-in-box or just the parts? Care to share the ballpark figure?
I've never seen any AFOLs use the words "great price" and "Lego UCS ISD" in the same sentence.
Love the ISD but it'll be expensive - about $1,199 AUD
Yeah the price-per-piece obviously won't be anywhere near as good as the Falcon at the end of its lifespan or even something like the Bucket Wheel Excavator or Rough Terrain Crane but at least it's going to be a modern construction with modern pieces (and hopefully nicer details); as nice as the old ISD was to look at, damn was it built weirdly and flimsy.
Used $428 shipped with box / manuals / sticker. Missing about 30 pieces but nothing rare just common pieces should be about $25 on bricklink with shipping
@cyrax83: Cheap. I bought it maybe 5 years ago for $600ish no box, sold for $1200ish last year. The lego master builder staff actually found my ebay listing and asked if I wanted to go on the show. I'm not a master builder so I ignored them.
It's a terrible set TBH. Barely hangs together as the magnets aren't good enough. I strengthened mine with some rare earth magnets and it was still iffy. It's also dull to build due to severe repetition (and much of the design is a series of plates).
For the price you paid it's worth it but I wouldn't recommend anyone pay too much for it.
Been looking/fighting with wife/trying to find enough space/saving money for it for too long, and it’s time to pull the trigger now
Just buy it. She'll get over it and then you'll have the holy grail set for life :D
At least you'll get a spaceship to save yourself once the war starts.
Been looking/fighting with wife/trying to find enough space/saving money for it for too long, and it’s time to pull the trigger now
There's a double meaning in that.
Hmmm, dangerous thoughts. In fact I ended with something else almost same value for my wife and got the approval…..
Remember that the Falcon is basically a giant slab of grey.
For pure fandom joy, go ahead. For coordinating with other things in the house, maybe not.
put lights in it then.
I find your lack of faith (in grey) disturbing
My wife and I each have "beer money" accounts… For stuff like this. $50/week (was $100 before kids) gets pushed across. Buy what we want, no judgement.
Are people even considering paying that amount just for LEGO?? I need some explanation on what's going on? Your looking at making a fortune in 80 years time if it's kept in mint condition?
People spent upwards of $5k on the original version
The problem is, everyone who truly cared bought this already.. this set will never be the same as the original
Lego isn't an investment (poor one, if it is).
It's a hobby, and entertainment. Just like buying video games, or sneakers, or movies.
Surprising me how many have sold . 1 at a time different people . 8 ( probably will load another 12 if they sell )left but still think plenty held for starter by Myer so should get cheaper . About $9 more each now using current promotion and SB 15% for 2.
Are we buying these to make or hold onto. There are that many of them it seems that holding on to them to make it worth it would take a long time to recoup. I still think it is well overpriced and $400 - $500 is the realistic price. IMO. There's heeps on Ebay for over a $1k. But who really is going to fork out that much for a set. The price point for these to save and sell later doesn't make sense. How many ppl do you know would for out over $1k for a set? Not many.
I’d say definitely not investors ( would have seen multiple purchases from same user name), more likely toys to build for big boys :)
None left. I had the last in the cart but some other prick beat me to it.
I wouldn't advise getting 2 of them but the option there as I mentioned above for $9 more each from Myer's . Maybe team up with a buddy . I'd bet a house they don't run out of stock :)
Take it as a good thing. You saved $875 and time.
OoS now
t0087669 on 05/07/2019 - 20:39 Comment score below threshold.