Will Kemps Creek/Rossmore become Sydney's new CBD?

SlavOz on 18/08/2019 - 11:10

The new airport being built in Rossmore will become Sydney's primary airport for major flight paths. It's inevitable that as such a huge amount of traffic starts passing through there, especially rich people coming and going from flights, that businesses will start opening up nearby. Hotels, rent-a-cars, public transport line etc.

Stands to reason that eventually all the major corporations will open offices nearby too, unless they want their executives and prestigious business partners to have to travel 50km to their current head office in the CBD when coming and going from major flights. Add that up over the next 30-40 years and it's looking very likely that we'll have two major CBD's in Sydney. Not sure what effect, if any, that would have on house prices and the job market.

Thoughts?

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  • Baysew on 18/08/2019 - 11:21
    +10

    Without a harbour view, probably not.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/08/2019 - 11:37
    +4

    I don't want to live next to the airport.

    I can't imagine people with money want to live next to the airport.

    Warehouses will benefit from proximity to the airport but commercial offices, especially high end service industries will not move from an actual CBD.

    Maybe in 50 years anything could happen. We could apply that same logic to argue for Launceston becoming the third major Australian CBD.

  • mskeggs on 18/08/2019 - 11:41
    +12

    Hahahahahahahaha

    • mskeggs on 18/08/2019 - 11:47
      +13

      By that argument, the land around Avalon Airport should be full of the head offices of the major firms, as should the land around Narita or Heathrow. WSA will be lucky to be as economically vibrant as Luton or Stansted.

      • SlavOz on 18/08/2019 - 11:51
        -6

        Avalon airport is not the primary hub for flights in and out of a major city though…

        Kind of a nonsense comparison. Rossmore airport is predicted to take over Mascot as Sydney's main airport, and given how far it is from the CBD it would only make sense for smart businesses to move there.

        • mskeggs on 18/08/2019 - 11:56
          +6

          Neither is the cow field currently designated as WSA.
          To be clear, the rich people will not travel to WSA unless forced, and will not use any services outside the airport building except parking.
          The only people saying WSA will be the main hub are the developers, the airlines know KSA will be the preferred airport forever.
          Will Qantas fly some secondary routes out of WSA to relieve KSA congestion? Sure. Will it ever compete with KSA for desirable routes? No. Not ever.

        • SydStrand on 18/08/2019 - 12:06
          +6

          No one lives around Tullamarine, either.

      • [Deactivated] on 18/08/2019 - 14:03
        +1

        Luton is a 5h1thole and Stanstead is a rural backwater, but heh I come from Watford, least we got Harry Potter World, Ginger Spice, Elton John and Naughty Boy

        • mskeggs on 18/08/2019 - 14:05
          +1

          Exactly, and WSA will be lucky to be as good.

  • askme69 on 18/08/2019 - 11:45

    House prices, HaHaHA.

  • nfr on 18/08/2019 - 11:50
    +3

    The new airport will replace the current one as Sydney's primary airport? Really?

  • [Deactivated] on 18/08/2019 - 12:10
    -1

    CBD, but without high rises. Probably won't happen. More likely longterm car park values will dictate prices.

  • SydStrand on 18/08/2019 - 12:14
    +5

    The new airport might overtake KSA in passenger traffic because of the curfew, but priority flights will still be landing in KSA. Tourists don't want to take a 50km shuttle to the harbour, ditto with business travellers to corporate offices. The new airport will be used for low priority spillover, aka Jetstars and Tigers.

    Not sure what effect, if any, that would have on house prices and the job market.

    Probably not enough to matter to you

  • TheBilly on 18/08/2019 - 12:21
    +2

    No. It is very normal for major cities to have their airports further out. Mascot was an anomaly.

  • [Deactivated] on 18/08/2019 - 13:59
    +9

    It's pure delusion to think that too many "rich people" will be using this airport.

    The new Airport in Sydney will primarily be for slum airlines (cheaper landing fees) flying to bogan locations like Bali, westies flying on low cost airlines like Tiger and Jetstar to the Gold Coast, Cairns and 24 hour freight movements.

    Sydney has one CBD and it will have one CBD in 20 years - the current one.

    • SlavOz on 18/08/2019 - 16:20
      -6

      Ever heard of a mega city, with multiple CBD's?

      • nfr on 18/08/2019 - 16:37
        +3

        Paramatta was supposed to be the 2nd CBD

  • Changskies on 18/08/2019 - 20:32
    +2

    Op did you buy a property around there, because it aint gonna get better

    • SlavOz on 18/08/2019 - 23:15
      -2

      I wish I could afford around there. A lot of the surrounding suburbs - Horsley Park, Twin Creeks, Cecill Park, Kemps Creek etc are almost exclusively old people who've built a lot of wealth.

      Rossmore is just undeveloped, but with the size of most blocks there it'd be dumb to think its a low income area.

  • Stewardo on 18/08/2019 - 22:59
    +3

    If anything it will be a low income high crime area, those poorly constructed medium density subdivisions may look ok when new, but give it 20 years and under the low cost airline flight path, I couldn’t imagine it becoming desirable. It will be full of warehouses and industrial sheds.

    • SlavOz on 18/08/2019 - 23:07
      -3

      The rate of nice houses around there is much higher than anywhere else tbh. Double-storey mansions sitting on 3-5 acres each. My brother recently sold his property in a nearby suburb for 2.5 million - paid about 400k for the block close to 17 years ago.

      Low income no value my ass.

      • SydStrand on 19/08/2019 - 01:01
        +7

        I don't get what you're trying to do. You suggest a second CBD, everyone points out how impractical this is, how a second airport won't suddenly class up Kemps Creek, then you get huffy and defensive. So what's the point of this thread, to defend the honour of western Sydney?

        • SlavOz on 20/08/2019 - 23:33
          -1

          Not being defensive, I don't even live in the West technically. Im just laying down the facts since people are obviously unaware of the circumstances. Suggesting that surrounding areas are somehow low income or the properties are low value is just not true given that the average house is way bigger and probably newer than your average house anywhere even remotely close to the CBD.

          https://www.domain.com.au/4-portrush-crescent-luddenham-nsw-…

          https://www.domain.com.au/19-polo-road-rossmore-nsw-2557-201…

          https://www.domain.com.au/209a-lincoln-road-horsley-park-nsw…

          I'm probably a bit out of touch but unless the low income earner has an extra 3 million in their back pocket they ain't getting anywhere near where the new airport is being built. The prices will only go up further once the operation is complete.

          Should the elite upper class of Sydney need to travel to WSA, they will not find themselves among society's hungry and poor. Going by those prices I'd say they'll find themselves among people similarly wealthy as they but simply chosen to spend said wealth on somewhere more peaceful/spacious.

          • SydStrand on 21/08/2019 - 19:16
            +1

            @SlavOz:

            the average house is way bigger and probably newer than your average house anywhere even remotely close to the CBD.

            That Western Sydney is filled with McMansions isn't news. And not everyone aspires to live in a giant house in the middle of nowhere.

  • Stewardo on 18/08/2019 - 23:43
    +3

    There is no question the land is valuable it’s near an major motorway and eventual airport, but the value is in developing the land for medium density subdivisions and industrial parks. The airport will be single runway and be for cargo and low cost carriers and flights that arrive at 2am. You will get commerce, freight, logistics companies, call centres a foreign student university. But to suggest the elite are moving to badgerys creek is a bit of a stretch.

  • tabitha731 on 19/08/2019 - 07:56

    Not a chance!!no city folk only travel out to the will west under duress!

    They would rather work interstate than work out I the cow paddocks!!!

  • Hector on 19/08/2019 - 08:22
    +2

    Funniest thing I’ve read on here in a while

    No way the CBD changes.

    The SYD will remain the main airport for QF, VA and one world / star alliance / tier 1 middle eastern carriers.

    The second airport will handle cargo, Jetstar, tiger, air Asia x, and other airlines wanting to fly to SYD and pay cheaper landing fees (Hainan, Xiamen, etc)

  • MrBear on 19/08/2019 - 10:37
    +4

    I've lived in Sydney nearly all my life and never heard of these suburbs. lol.

    • [Deactivated] on 19/08/2019 - 11:35
      +4

      … and you never will.

      You'll just know them as "suburbs near that other airport that you tell relos you're not picking them up from".

      Aka. Avalon airport and "suburbs near that…"

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