Turning Right - from Left Most Side of Unmarked Street

pegasusx on 04/11/2019 - 17:49
Last edited 04/11/2019 - 17:56

Generally, I know you have to keep to the most left lane when turning left at an intersection and vice versa for right turns.
Question here is what happens when you are on a street without marked lanes turning right?

Can you turn right from the left most side of an unmarked street?

Situation is as below. [MS Paint like Diagram] (https://ibb.co/W5B7mgF)

I am in the car A turning right. Due to the width of the street, a vehicle (eg. Car B) can easily squeeze through to the left and turn without issues. However, if the car is a SUV or UTE / raised car/truck etc. It blocks my view of the traffic to my left and making turning right extremely difficult.

  • Also in the blue square often is a removalist truck 2.5-2.8M in height legally parked behind the no stopping sign, but blocks most of the view of traffic coming downhill at 60kmph.

I tend to keep to the left most side to turn right so vehicles cant nudge through and block my left side view.
Yes I know it’s a poor thing to do as at least a dozen cars can turn on left from my left side during peak hour.

Automotive

Comments

  • iforgotmysocks on 04/11/2019 - 18:00
    +4

    Well if you can do that, I reserve the right to turn left from your right.

    • AdosHouse on 04/11/2019 - 18:07
      +3

      That is a sill thing to say. Because it is an unmarked road, OP is entitled to the whole left side of the road.

      I too hate it when I am trying to turn and some incosiderate A-hole in a 4WD to big work-ute, pulls up next to me and blocks my view.

      In this particular situation if I am car B, I will either pull up next to them but keeping Car A's view unobstructed (if car A is a regular sedan and I can see through the car, or I stay BEHIND car A and view traffic behind them (if they are a car I cannot see through).

      • HighAndDry on 04/11/2019 - 18:14

        I too hate it when I am trying to turn and some incosiderate A-hole in a 4WD to big work-ute, pulls up next to me and blocks my view.

        How about when you're trying to go straight, and some incosiderate A-hole in a car blocks up the entire street when they could've just taken up one side of it?

        • AdosHouse on 04/11/2019 - 18:15

          Are you talking about a 4 way intersection here, or just straight driving down a road?

          • HighAndDry on 04/11/2019 - 18:17

            @AdosHouse: 4-way or just driving down a road that has a side-street someone's turning down, but even at a T-junction, turning right usually is harder and takes a longer wait than turning left. In the time you're holding up traffic waiting to turn right, half a dozen cars could've turned left.

            • AdosHouse on 04/11/2019 - 18:28

              @HighAndDry: At a 4-way intersection, assuming it can safely be done (I swear streets are getting narrower), it absolutely is possible for 2 cars to be side by side and turning it opposite directions. My complaint is with inconsiderate a-hole drivers who block the other persons view.

              Today was a prime example, basically the situation that OP described, except I was B. I pull up to turn left, and an a-hole in a (i think) BT-50 pulls up next to me and blocks my view. I couldn't go any further forward because I would be past the line. All the BT-50 had to do was stop short of my drivers window. He could easily see over my car (elantra). I now had to wait for him to go, problem is there was a lot of cars going left to right, but barely any going right to left, so there was amble gaps for me to go, but because I couldn't do it safely I had to wait ages.

              As for a car taking up the whole side of the road for going straight ahead, why the hell are you trying to go around them?

    • pegasusx on 04/11/2019 - 18:45

      Absolutley its a choice that you can make. Its happened many times, turning left from my right at speed going in the middle lane. Few times almost taking out the on coming traffic turning into our street. Twice i've seen police cars pull over cars for doing this over a 8 months.

      • iforgotmysocks on 04/11/2019 - 21:40
        +2

        So you think it's right I'm left to decide whether to turn left from your right? Right.

        • pegasusx on 04/11/2019 - 21:50

          Nope. You are in the wrong in the above instance. I said you can choose to do so if you want. As I have observed, people have been pulled over doing this.

  • spackbace on 04/11/2019 - 18:02
    +4

    I'd turn left on you as well, but I'd look past your car etc to make sure it was safe. I'd try to stop before the line, so you could see past me and hopefully go. That's if you were there first anyway

    PS thought you were pegaxs wtf is with the similar name

  • Ughhh on 04/11/2019 - 18:27
    +1

    I wouldn't turn right from the most left side, as there will always be blind idiots who didnt see your indicator. But I would steer as left as I can to ensure a regular car can't squeeze in. Or, steer left then right as you're approaching the intersection, that way your car is positioned slightly diagonally, so no cars can squeeze left or right of you. Be prepared for people to be annoyed at your though.

    • pegasusx on 04/11/2019 - 18:42

      I tend to do this more now. Keep leftish, not so much as to be right next to the kerb. Just enough so cars can’t nudge pass and block my view and I can clear the intersection much faster. From experience If I left a gap I would miss out many opportunities to turn right simple cause my view is blocked at this specific intersection.

  • emibel19 on 04/11/2019 - 19:39
    +1

    From the diagram, your car seems to be positioned exactly where I would make the turn from, i.e. just left of my estimate of the centre of the road I am turning out of. This way you leave the other half of the road for traffic turning into your road.

    Whether or not there is enough room for another vehicle to turn left from my left-hand side is irrelevant to me.

  • Vote for Pedro on 04/11/2019 - 20:51

    If I understood correctly the suv to left of you is likely to turn left quickly so it shouldn’t be an issue for long.

    • John Kimble on 04/11/2019 - 21:16

      Unless the car turning right is blocking your vision and you have to wait till they clear, or risk turning left blind.

    • pegasusx on 04/11/2019 - 21:23

      Not so. They pull right up to the front and they reaslised I block their view, and they block mine. So its a game of nudge foward till you can see which is why started going bit left so they cant past and block my view till I complete my turn.

      • Vote for Pedro on 04/11/2019 - 21:41

        Sorry, misunderstood, thought you were in a smaller car. I guess if both are in a car that can block each others view then the car that got there last should hang back a tad, but in today’s world, good luck with that

      • John Kimble on 04/11/2019 - 22:29
        +1

        This is partly why SUVs are popular, to see over normal sedans…but then everyone went and bought one and we are back to square one :/

  • Euphemistic on 04/11/2019 - 21:08
    +3

    Without looking at the legislation, I suspect it is a one lane street and you can turn either way from that lane. It’s a matter of courtesy to move left or right to allow others to do the opposite. Sometimes, a bigger vehicle will block the view, but thems the breaks.

    Moving left when turning right seems to be holding up other drivers from turning left which I find frustrating - having a similar situation when exiting our suburb onto a roundabout. Vehicles turning right that don’t move the right just hold up people who can safely turn left while they wait. It’s also frustrating when the traffic builds up to the left and the held up cars turning left block you from turning right.

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