China preventing certain factories from working due to Coronavirus

lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 08:40

I'm currently renovating my house and have unfortunately had some huge delays with our Windows due to the Corona virus outbreak.

The manufacturer (an Australian company that designs local, but manufactures in China) is apparently not allowed to work at the moment due to China stopping work, or something along those lines. They believe work will resume this Friday but are not 100% sure yet as the date has changed a few times. I couldn't quite find any information about a ban on factory work in China so not entirely sure what this is in relation to.

Has anyone else has any hold ups with products they are trying to get out of China? This must be hugely devastating for their economy.

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  • dust on 26/02/2020 - 08:52
    +4

    Has anyone else has any hold ups with products they are trying to get out of China? This must be hugely devastating for their economy.

    Yes. Everything coming from China is delayed.

    • CyberMurning on 26/02/2020 - 09:24
      +2

      "Yes. Everything coming from China is delayed."
      EXCEPT:
      coronovirus.

      • dasher86 on 26/02/2020 - 11:19
        +2

        That's delayed too with the border control that has been applied.

        • lovepub on 27/02/2020 - 10:19

          Wait till winter season hit us.
          While they wait for summer , we should prepare for the battle in our autumn and winter where the virus will be more active

          God bless us.

  • slow on 26/02/2020 - 08:55
    +2

    The company I work for has a large operation in China. Some is closed and some has only "critical" stuff working, All office staff are being forced to work from home.

    • ESEMCE on 26/02/2020 - 09:36
      +1

      +1
      It's a mixed bag.
      It depends on the location of the facility, what their pull is with the local government officials and where their employees are from.
      Many of my suppliers in China are open but running at reduced capacity as many of their employees remain stuck in their home-towns following Chinese New Year.
      Even when qurantine measures are lifted internally in China, many employees will have found new jobs in the areas in which they have been quarantined.

      Some remain closed outright. Nobody really knows when they will re-open and even when they do reopen how many employees will return!

      • lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 09:55

        They did say this that they went home and are stuck. Why is this? Is the government not letting them leave in case they spread the virus?

        Well that doesn't sound good for my Windows and glass.

        • richadam on 26/02/2020 - 12:38

          Government are blocking people from leaving their house, say for one nominated person every 3 or so days to go to the chops for supplies.

        • ESEMCE on 26/02/2020 - 13:32

          Depends on the locality, but in some cases yes.

          But there's also major transport restrictions. So even people that are able to move about freely may not be able to return to work.
          Note than for Chinese New Year, millions of people travel across the country to return to their home-towns. It's a transportation nightmare at the best of times, but when half of the country is locked down it can mean that you are unable to travel through one province to get to another.

          I was informed earlier today that General Quarantine measures are being lifted except in Wuhan. If your glass is coming from there.
          They do not expect to lift restrictions until 10 March

          • lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 14:09

            @ESEMCE: I was told that they think this Friday is when they return to work… But they said it was meant to be the 7th, then 17th so not even sure if Friday will happen. Im not sure if it's Wuhan or not.. Let's hope not!

    • apsilon on 26/02/2020 - 11:21

      Ditto. Several of our facilities are closed and staff are working from home where possible but it was our call so not sure of any actual government ban or forced closures though it wouldn't surprise me. None of what we make there is sold outside of the local market so it's not directly impacting operations here however we do buy some raw materials from suppliers in China for manufacturing here and that is becoming difficult and having an impact.

  • serpserpserp on 26/02/2020 - 09:30

    Maybe time to look at some windows built elsewhere.

    • lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 09:54

      Deposit paid :(

      • GG57 on 26/02/2020 - 11:13
        +1

        Check your agreement with the seller. Is there any clause about "force majeure" or similar?
        You should be able to get your deposit refunded if they cannot supply within a reasonable timeframe; maybe have that discussion and agree on a final date / timeframe.

  • askme69 on 26/02/2020 - 09:37

    Buy Australian Made.

    • lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 09:49
      +1

      I don't have the budget to pay double.

      • waterbottled on 26/02/2020 - 10:43
        -1

        that means you're not a patriot of australia and a traitor for supporting a communist human rights abusing devilspawn dictatorship warlord. how dare you.

        /s

        • lockmc on 26/02/2020 - 12:29

          I sleep at night knowing this.

          • richadam on 26/02/2020 - 12:40
            +5

            @lockmc: Not comfortably without your windows :)

            • Emerald Owl on 26/02/2020 - 16:18

              @richadam: Don’t you guys sleep with windows open anway. Unless you just spam air conditioning or live in a highway.

              • richadam on 26/02/2020 - 16:38
                +1

                @Emerald Owl: I mean I generally have the wind open with a screen on. Otherwise I'd look like I have the chicken pox with all the mozzies around.

  • dirtybigbjelke on 26/02/2020 - 11:24
    +2

    Not just manufacturing. Once they get back to making stuff the ports are going to be choccas. Settle in for a long wait.

    https://www.fullyloaded.com.au/logistics-news/2002/looming-c…

    "FTA reports the situations and restrictions there are uneven across Chinese regions, however, international freight firms this week point to export port congestion in the country."

    In an update on Asia-Pacific sea logistics, Kuehne + Nagel (K+N) says the ports of Shanghai and Tianjin are experiencing congestion.

    Loading and discharging operations are also expected to slow down due to lack of stevedores.

    "The rapid mass cancellation of additional sailings from China is likely to cause capacity shortage to backhaul shippers in the next 3-6 weeks depending on geography.

    "The sharp reduction in effective capacity available to shippers will cause freight rates to leap on both headhaul and backhaul as exporters face space shortages.

    "Due to the extended Lunar New Year holidays, yard density has reached critical levels.

    "Consequently, this has resulted in severe congestion and an ongoing shortage of reefer plugs at the terminals of main ports such as Shanghai, Tianjin and Ningbo."

    Chinese trucking "remains deeply challenged", international operator Agility reports.

    "A shortage of drivers and road restrictions continue to impact domestic trucking, including pre- and on-carriage significantly," Agility reports.

    "There is an estimated 60-70% shortage of drivers due to travel and quarantine restrictions."

  • datafellows on 26/02/2020 - 11:37

    All my suppliers are forced to stay home although it was previously thought that everybody gets back to work on 23rd.

    Prices will rise as well, but I believe it's temporary.

  • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2020 - 18:54

    The last few trips I made to midrange furniture/fitout stores were greeted with angry customers pissed that their delivery has bot arrived from China.

    Do not be surprised if delivery date promises are not kept. This thing ain't blowing over just yet.

  • golfer dad on 27/02/2020 - 08:36

    In many cities, factories need to apply for re-opening with extensive records to be provided which included all last fortnight record of staff travel movements and other personal details for quarantine enforcement. To re-open, factories also have sufficient masks to provide to workers daily, thermometers to perform temperature checks (up to 3 times a day) which must be logged. With the world wide shortage of masks, hand sanitisers, gloves and thermometers, not easy for factories to have capability to meet re-opening requirements and on-going compliance. A huge amount of admin records needs to be done by the factory before they can even apply to re-open and then a fair wait for approval.

  • OzHunterNSW on 27/02/2020 - 09:37
    -1

    It's not really a hold up, now is it. It is simply a delay. Yerars ago they would say it is still on the docks.

    The world is not revolving around your windows.

  • kiitos on 27/02/2020 - 12:46

    I wonder if this will lead to a move away from putting all our supply chain eggs in the one basket?

    Probably not.

  • lockmc on 27/02/2020 - 12:47
    +1

    @OzHunterNSW - a delay, a hold-up; same thing in this context. What is your point here?
    Further, when was it even slightly mentioned about the world revolving around my windows?
    I don't understand in the slightest the point of your comment.

  • Techie4066 on 27/02/2020 - 22:18

    I didn't know Microsoft Windows was made in China

    But yes, you are absolutely right. Think about all the technology components that aren't coming out of China and what that will do for smartphone and laptop prices…

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