Bluefin Superchips Reliable ECU Tuning?

Hi Guys,

Wondering if anyone has had experience with Bluefin Superchips ECU tuning.

As it shows on their website its an easy OBDII reader where you have to send your Cars VIN number to the UK based company and they will send you an ECU tuning file which you install yourself with the OBDII connector.

It seems a lot less expensive than other ECU tuning, as it is just a stage 1 ECU tune.
Seems like one of the best bang for your buck mod.

Anyone had any good or bad experiences with them?

How did they or you deal with warranty if something goes wrong?

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    What could possibly go wrong? If you brick your ECU how are you going to get hem to come and fix it from the other side of the planet. What if their ‘tune’ causes a change that reduces the lifespan of your engine or screws up your transmission map?

    How could this possibly be a scam? They’ll ‘send a file’ and you’ll get ‘better performance and economy’. How will you measure the results quickly enough to get back to them if they don’t perform as claimed.

    How does a standard ‘file’ for a vehicle perform any better than the tune developed by the manufacturer with millions of dollars and thousands of hours of research?

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      OP's next thread. "Installed a tune and it bricked my car, what do?" or "Installed a tune and it melted 3 pistons… what do?" or "car went from using 8l/100km to now 15l/100km… what do?"

    • +1 vote

      The ECU tune is easily verifiable.

      A stage 1 generally feels significantly different. The rate and timing of the fill strokes and forced air is what makes the difference.

      Manufacturer tunes are very conservative. They are also tuned so the power is present in mildly spirited road driving.

      One can further verify the upgrades on a dyno.

      It's not a scam. Well, not all of them at least.

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      They specialize in European cars, which is why they are UK based.
      They have an AU website which they support from.

      I know its not a scam as it seems they are quite reputable and have been around since 2005.

      Im just seeing if anyone if AUS has had any experience with Bluefin Superchips themselves.

      https://www.superchips.com.au/bluefin.html

      Edit: Sorry Superchips Founded in 1977

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    Had one on a GTI. Worked well. Wasn't as aggressively tuned as others but it can be removed before a service.

    I have some direct ECU tunes and those can also be masked for warranty purpose.

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      Was it the Bluefin For Golf GTI?

      How were you able to remove it? Using the same OBDII reader they provided?
      I thought dealerships were able to trace if the car had previously been ECU tuned.

      • +2 votes

        Yes.

        Yes.

        Last sentence wasn't really a question but they cannot if the codes have been removed. This was on a Mk6 so I'm not sure if newer ECU leaves some traces of changes made but the Mk6 was no detectable.

        After all, it is all software. If programmers can make Trojans and viruses untraceable in a PC, they can make software that is fully deletable on a car's PC.

        (My dealership manager knows I tune my car to shits because we use the same tuner. It's at their discretion to make a fuss. Be good to your mechanics and you won't have drama.)

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          Yeah thought so, how could they track it if its been removed and they cant prove damage was from the tune.

          I just got off chat with one of the blokes, says that Stage 1 and Stock ECU flash is always stored on the Bluefin device.
          So removing it and tuning back to stage 1 is quite simple.

          Thanks for your input, gives me a bit more confidence in purchasing one of these!

          Ill be sure to be good with my service dealership haha, I still have another 2 years of warranty on my car.

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    Nothing wrong with tuning by obd, as long as the tunes are good. Depending on the vehicle and ecu, they will flag the number of times the ecu has been flashed. Some ecus can't have the stock tune read via obd, and have to be "virtually read".

    How much are they doing it for?

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      I have a Renault Clio RS200 Cup 2015 Manufactured in 2017 and still have 2 years warranty on it.

      This is the tune I have been looking at.

      -> https://www.superchips.com.au/renault-clio-rs-200-ecu-tune-r...

      $700 for a Stage 1 tune.

      The warranty will only void engine and drivetrain (as long as they can prove it) due to the tune.

      Although the operator said that I can remove the tune and re-tune it with the Bluefin device.

      So before every service I guess I can just remove it?

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        2015 Manufactured in 2017

        Um, you what now?? It's a 15MY made in 2017??

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          Yeah lmao 2015 model, manufactured in 2017.

          Hence why I have 5 year warranty until 2022.

          It was a dealer used car and I was apparently the first owner.

          So I still got the 5 year warranty from the manufacture date.

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            @Liuwi: What you got was an old stocker that has sat around on the docks or in a holding yard to 2 years.

            If you have warranty, then don't modify the car until 2022. If you have any engine or drive line issues, they may just wipe your warranty if you start uploading tunes or changing engine parameters.

            And congrats on being brave enough to own a French car…

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              @pegaxs: I think its actually build date 2015, compliance date 2017.
              I just check the VIN again and it has 03/17 on there before the VIN number.

              So would have been in storage for 2 years before it was compiled in Aus?
              Not sure how all this works.

              I did buy the car with about 25K on the odo and was the first owner so yeah not too fussed.

              Yeah im thinking that as well, to just hold off until warranty ends although 2022 is a while to wait!

              Haha I love it, its a CUP edition and love how Raw it is.
              I don't plan on keeping the Clio for that long, just wanted to have some fun with it!

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        Does that come with the handheld tuner? If so that seems like a very good price.

        I would personally just do it and flash it back before taking it in to them, but that's just me, and I have all my stuff flashed, but none of it is in warranty anyway.

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          Yep its all done in your own garage, its a handheld Blufin Device and it has stores both Stock flash as well as the Stage 1 Flash on their.

          Yeah seems like a very good price, just skeptical if it will damage any components in the near future.

          Have you had any issues with flashing your ECU's and re-tuning?

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            @Liuwi: The device is included in the cost of the tune though?

            No issues at all, better power and economy. I used to do tuning and dpf delete software for people with navaras, they were always happy with the results. Tunes my jet skis, same thing.

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              @brendanm: Yeah $700 for the whole package!
              It sounds super cheap for what it is right?

              I think I have enough info from here to make a decision, just wanted to know how safe it is.

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    How do these effect the overall reliability of your engine/gearbox? I've been thinking about getting a bluefins tune too but am scared it'll add too much extra work for the engine/gearbox. Do you need to get the car serviced earlier, etc?

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      Same feeling I have, hence this post. tshow gave a pretty good insight of his experience with his GTI MK6

      They mentioned they do not have a stage 2 for my car as it will need a gearbox cooler.
      They said it is completely safe for a Stage 1 without any modifications.

      They seem to have done a shitttonne of testing as the operator I spoke to knew there were limitations of my Clio RS EDC gearbox hence why they couldn't provide the option of a stage 2.

    • +1 vote

      Most major plug and play tunes are fairly conservative.

      The ones to watch out for are custom or unheard of "tuning house" products that boast very high numbers.

      Generally you'll have your top tier guys like Brabus, APR, ARB, Manhart… (No where near an exhaustive list). These guys have a close relationship with the manufacturers and will have several test vehicles. In the northern hemisphere, many of these tuned cars are available as brand new vehicles directly from a dealer.

      Bluefins isn't in that league but they are certainly no ricer.

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        Cheers - I checked the figures for bluefins/APR and it looks like they're similar tunes but there's a large price gap. Is there any reason one should pay extra for the APR? The same can be said at the dyno sheets of custom tuners I'm looking at. They all look pretty similar to me.

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          I have a feeling the tunes become fairly the same across the board after a while.

          When a new model is released, the tunes are all over the place. Obviously the ones blowing up engines will be phased out. The ones with weaker numbers will "move in the direction" of the stable and better ones.

          Personally, I tune all my cars directly as I used the OBD ports for other things so I can't be stuffed mucking around with pluggable tunes. Also, my warranty is usually super void.

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