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Fortis 700C Electric Mountain Bike | $799 (Was $1199.99) + Delivery @ Kogan

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Fortis 700C Electric Mountain Bike | $799 (Was $1199.99) + Delivery @ Kogan
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Lfrugalranger on 04/06/2020 - 21:01 kogan.com (1929 clicks)

Decent price for a electric mountain bike, not sure how Fortis stacks up in terms of quality though. The deal is also on the Dick Smith site.

  • Shimano 7-speed gears with 25km/h max speed
  • 250W Brushless motor with rechargeable 36V lithium battery
  • Ultra-light Phoenix 700C alloy frame with height-adjustable seat
  • Adjustable front fork suspension with lockout feature
  • Front and rear mechanical disc brakes
  • HD LCD Display and bright LED headlight
  • Neco headset and pedals with pro-wheel crankset
  • Kenda tyres with Phoenix XLM double-wall alloy rims

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  • seb on 04/06/2020 - 21:13
    +2

    Good price. Not sure how Kogan claims that 22kg is "ultra light" though

    • Baghern on 04/06/2020 - 21:37

      because they're usually 30kg…

      A prior manager at work was trying to offload the one he got for his wife, because she wanted one…

      30kg… nah dont want it now

  • noone on 04/06/2020 - 21:23
    +3

    Further 5% off if ordered via its mobile app. Ends today though

  • pork chop on 04/06/2020 - 21:27
    +1

    Has been this price since March.

  • DamagedDingo on 04/06/2020 - 21:31

    What happens if you go over the 25km? Does it explode?

    • shadow7412 on 04/06/2020 - 21:35
      +2

      Yes

      • DamagedDingo on 04/06/2020 - 21:39
        +2

        Wonder what happens at 88mph..

        • FLICKIT on 04/06/2020 - 21:40
          +1

          You wake up from the dream ;)

  • S2 on 04/06/2020 - 21:41
    +6

    After this recent forum post about Fraudulent Order on Kogan.com and this revelation that multiple people have been hacked, I strongly suggest anyone with a kogan account to check it and remove any saved credit card details and unlink paypal.

    • captaincabinets on 04/06/2020 - 21:49
      +1

      Thanks. Tried updating password and it said "updated" but it actually didn't. Shonky as

    • [Deactivated] on 05/06/2020 - 08:57
      +2

      I’m guessing multiple people use the same email address & password on multiple sites and one of those sites had their user DB compromised. It’s quite common.

      Solution: user a different password on each site. Either use a password manager, or if you can’t be bothered, then at least have a slightly different password at each site.

  • shortcircuit on 04/06/2020 - 22:00

    how far this can go?

    • FLICKIT on 04/06/2020 - 22:06
      +2

      Boasting a powerful 250W brushless motor and long-lasting 36V lithium battery, you’ll be able to reach speeds of up to 25km/h and confidently travel up 40km on a single charge with pedal assist.

    • bargaino on 05/06/2020 - 00:23

      To get a rough idea, battery is 36V x 10AHr, so 360 Whr.
      Motor is 250W (in or out?) so something like 90 mins at full power.

      Distance depends on hills, stop/start, your size and riding position, and how much you pedal.

      • menvert on 05/06/2020 - 15:25

        250w rated in ebikes means it can run 250w constantly without damage, it will actually peak to something like 400w power draw (it's usually 10amp and 36v fully charged is 42v)

        • bargaino on 05/06/2020 - 16:37

          You are referring to the EU standard EN15194 pedelec, and they are limited to 25km/hr before power cuts out.

          How is that relevant to range? I guess it will affect economy if stopping and starting very frequently.

  • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 22:11
    +1

    I'm looking to buy an electric bike, but the 250W Australian limit is ridiculous. I've found a few 2000w bikes that I can import from China, but they want $1000 just for shipping.

    • cryptos on 04/06/2020 - 22:27
      +2

      Well if you order a bafang 750W etc they send 250W stickers to apply :) I believe you can limit the wattage (waiting on my programming cable)

      I just built a aldi mountain bike 750W bafang mid-mount with 52V 14AH hailong battery, can do 40-50kmh on a 16km commute, thing is a beast :)

      • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 22:28
        -3

        I feel I need more than 750W. I think 1500 minimum.

        • thurston4pm on 04/06/2020 - 22:40

          Get the bafang BBSHD and a 52v battery. Converted my mtb with it and it's crazy fast.

          • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2020 - 23:27

            @thurston4pm: That's a lot of money though, a quick look, and I'm looking at $2k for the BBSHD + Battery. I can get a chinese 1500W bike for that.

            • cryptos on 05/06/2020 - 00:02

              @[Deactivated]: My all up cost including Aldi bike was around $1600 with a decent brand name battery pack.. Looked at the HD, but couldn’t justify it.. being my 8th bike and all..

            • thurston4pm on 05/06/2020 - 00:31

              @[Deactivated]: Yeh, yikes… I just had a look. I bought mine about a year ago. The Aussie dollar has really pushed up the price. I got my motor kit and a 17.5Ah battery for 1500.

              • [Deactivated] on 10/06/2020 - 23:16

                @thurston4pm: Just FYI, you've convinced me, after much research, I'm going to get a BBSHD, and build up an old bike. Just waiting for a sale or a price drop.

        • coxymla on 04/06/2020 - 23:48

          750W is plenty for mid drive.

    • evanssm2jp on 04/06/2020 - 22:39
      +1

      I bought a Chinese Hummer folding mountain bike clone which I bought cheap as broken on gumtree with a 1000w switchable motor a couple of years ago - the power supply was damaged through the circuit being hooked up wrong so I bought a $400 lithium battery and rewired everything… I've not used it for a while but my experiences have been that it was a lot of fun but a bit scary…. I built a cage from bunnings folded alloy sheet to protect the battery and mounted it on a rear tray with a bag over it so it didn't stand out, and wired up a usb 5w supply for lights, etc. It has switchable power for the 1000w motor to supposedly limit it to 200w - I suspect that this still isn't really legal for Aus due to the acceleration being possible without pedals…

      Now for the scary stuff - Being Chinese cheap made the bike is made from soft alloys metals - within a month or so the kickstand fell off (weld broke)… Next problem was the rear (non electric) wheel spindle buckled and locked up unscrewing the wheel nuts and spinning freely in the groove (very dangerous). Next was the handlebars which became loose and couldn't be tightened properly. That said, I tested the top speed (not on a public road of course!) - managed to get 50km/h+ on a flat surface alongside pedalling in high power 1000w mode… In 200w mode I would pedal and get around 20-25km/h on a flat surface and approx 50km distance from one charge. On a hill 1000w was enough to make it up a steep hill with a little pedal assistance..

      The Chinese imports are fun, but there is a problem with safety simply because of te quality of alloys made to build them - I'm guessing this is the same with cheaper imports too, including the Kogan stuff. Possibly the best cheaper option is to look for a conversion kit and put it on a used higher quality bike.

      • mubd1234 on 04/06/2020 - 23:14

        The acceleration without pedals is perfectly legal, as long as it sticks to under 200W power output. You get an extra 50 watts (250W total) if you have a pedal assist bicycle.

      • bargaino on 05/06/2020 - 00:26

        Perhaps the answer is to buy a decent MTB like the ALDI one, then fit a cheap chinese rear-hub eBike kit.
        That will be over $1000 with batteries, but much better than the Kogan bike.

    • mubd1234 on 04/06/2020 - 23:27
      +3

      I've only ever had bicycles that complied with the 250W limit and I've always been happy with the power output. Your average human can only generate around 250W worth of pedal power on a bicycle.

      The last thing we'd want are effectively full motorbikes with the same brakes and tyres as an average bicycle - that's a disaster waiting to happen.

      There are several electric motorcycles out there with 2000W motors on the market which REQUIRE full registration.. Here's a 1500W one for under $3k. Full registration required.

      The ideal thing to do is to get an mid-drive e-bike. Most e-bikes with the motor mounted in the rear or front wheel hub can't use the bike's own gearing to transmit power, hence it performs slightly worse going uphill. With a mid-drive e-bike you could probably go up the Harbour Bridge ramp in a low enough gear with a 250W motor.

      • cryptos on 05/06/2020 - 00:04

        “same brakes and tyres as an average bicycle - that's a disaster waiting to happen.“

        So this is why I got the Aldi mountain bike with Hydraulic disc brakes, they work perfectly.

        • evanssm2jp on 05/06/2020 - 00:09

          I just ordered one of the $200 Aldi fortis bikes with disk brakes - I have another rear wheel hob motor wheel and a spare lithium battery - hoping this will be a good bike to build another electric bike from - they looked reasonably well built for the price..

          • BadGiraffe on 05/06/2020 - 01:06

            @evanssm2jp: Is that the $200 bike? I'm thinking of getting it just because it's the cheapest disc brake bike I can find. Don't really care for the foldable bit.

            • Bowchkawowow on 05/06/2020 - 10:23

              @BadGiraffe: Do you have a link to this $200 bike? is it this one-

              https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/fortis-26-foldable-mountain-bik…?

              • BadGiraffe on 05/06/2020 - 11:13

                @Bowchkawowow: Yup. It's not "lightweight" though. It's 20 Kg… which is pretty damn heavy. But it's cheap. And I just need to get to the shops and back. And it's the cheapest one with disc brakes and suspension I can find.

                Can't be bothered with the rear suspension. Rear suspension is really only good for downhill off-road… and I reckon this would fall apart if you go off-road in any capacity.

        • mubd1234 on 05/06/2020 - 00:20

          They're still not great. The hydraulic brakes on an Aldi mountain bike are considerably smaller (less friction area, more prone to brake fade) than any actual motorbike complying with ADRs. The tyres are also very skinny compared to a proper motorcycle.

          • cryptos on 05/06/2020 - 00:46

            @mubd1234: They are great.. they stop great with a 750w from 40-50kmh..

          • bargaino on 10/06/2020 - 14:21

            @mubd1234: But road bikes regularly descend mountains at 60-70km/hr, with only skinny tyres and rim brakes.

            The tyres cope fine. They can have rims over-heat if braking too much on twisty roads, but I've not heard of any problems with disc-brakes on road bikes.

    • bargaino on 05/06/2020 - 00:19
      +1

      but the 250W Australian limit is ridiculous.

      Not for a bicycle. What you want is a motorcycle.
      250W is to get you up hills, or allow the elderly or those with health problems to ride.
      It is more than most people can pedal at.

      I'm assuming you want more of a trailbike than a licensed and registered on-road vehicle?
      The 2000W engine will be fast, but needs massive batteries to maintain that power.

      • mubd1234 on 05/06/2020 - 00:22
        +2

        I'd hate to see the result of some lunatic on a 2000W, 80km/h capable bicycle crashing into a pedestrian on a shared path.

        I know someone who had a 1500W e-bike. He got up to 75km/h once. Silly.

        • cryptos on 05/06/2020 - 00:54
          +2

          I'd hate to see a car crashing into a pedestrian at 80km/h also; people need to be responsible, slow down or give ample clearance. The petrol motor conversions on bicycles and the generally d/heads that ride them are my concern..

          • BadGiraffe on 05/06/2020 - 01:10

            @cryptos: On a footpath, I get off my bike and push it when I get close to pedestrians. Someone did that to me once when I was a kid and that's stuck with me ever since. One of the nicer things someone's done for me, and I wanted to pass that on.

        • coxymla on 05/06/2020 - 10:06

          Lance Armstrong wannabees already ride like douches on shared paths so what's the difference?

          • mubd1234 on 06/06/2020 - 05:11

            @coxymla: Even Lance Armstrong can't get up to 80km/h on a flat path…

          • Hugh G Rection on 14/06/2020 - 19:24

            @coxymla: try not walking in the middle of the lane, walk on the left side buddy so the fast-moving bikes can get through. you can also walk along the streets since you're just walking you can stop frequently, really no need for you to be on the cycleways.

            • coxymla on 14/06/2020 - 20:22

              @Hugh G Rection: They're not cycleways.

              • Hugh G Rection on 15/06/2020 - 19:22

                @coxymla: I use the M7 Cycleway, it's in the name, "CYCLEWAY" ROFLMAO

                The M7 cycleway is a 40-kilometre-long
                The cycleway was completed at a cost of A$60 million.

                • coxymla on 15/06/2020 - 19:55

                  @Hugh G Rection: The Westlink M7 Shared Path is just under 40kms long and stretches from Prestons to Baulkham Hills.

                  For most of its length, the path is 4m wide to provide plenty of space for both pedestrians and cyclists.

                  The path provides important recreational, transport and health benefits. It integrates into surrounding pedestrian and cycle networks…

                  The Shared Path has a 30km/hr advisory speed limit to ensure the safety of all users.

      • Hugh G Rection on 14/06/2020 - 19:21

        challenge accepted :)

  • KevCol on 05/06/2020 - 11:30

    I endorse the comments that you can overdo the homebrew ebikes. I put a 1200W kit on a quality Malvern Star mtb with an expensive big battery. I found it to be too powerful for the light frame and steering and unpleasantly heavy. Not at all like riding a motorbike.
    I have since bought a 250W bike and like it much more.
    Having the batteries and controller in the frame is better as does this Fortis 700 and their bikes are of ok quality. I bought the 20" folding Fortis for $119 at Xmas time and can't fault it. When riding it, I often think there is little value in an ebike until I come to a hill?

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