Motorcycle stolen - no insurance

Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 02:19

My motorbike was stolen last year from my apartment underground car park. It was a cheap project bike I was rebuilding, incomplete, unregistered and obviously not insured. Probably worth about $1-2K not including all the work hours I was putting into it…

I reported the theft to the police and apparently they had camera footage where the bike was loaded to a ute. I have not heard anything and recently followed up as it has been almost 7 months since the incident. The police said the case was closed and somebody would call me back, but this never happened.

Just wondering what the correct steps are. Am I supposed to pursue this case myself through court as the police does not seem to have interest in following up?

Automotive

Comments

  • spackbace on 06/06/2020 - 02:23
    +5

    7 months? Give it up, move on and learn from it.

    You'd need to get the CCTV footage, hope it wasn't too grainy, hope the licence plate could be read, hope it wasn't a stolen car, and that the person could be identified, and that they were earning enough to pay you back more than $2/week.

  • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 03:12

    Nothing I can learn from. This could easily happen again.

    Ready to move on, but thought I find out if I did something wrong? Investigating officer told me that they have CCTV footage and identified the person. Since then I heard nothing.

    • Melb69 on 06/06/2020 - 04:07
      +1

      Call the station, to find out if you can get your parts back. Or advice to do next. Your uninsured. Not much you can do.

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/06/2020 - 08:44
      -2

      CCTV Doesnt prove anything.
      Thats why you havent heard

      • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:27

        Why does it not prove anything?

    • Ughhh on 06/06/2020 - 11:20
      -1

      Nothing I can learn from. This could easily happen again.

      Learning from it means identifying what went wrong and how you can prevent it from occuring again!

  • Melb69 on 06/06/2020 - 04:04
    +2

    Are you mates with @jimboid

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/540639

  • Hithere on 06/06/2020 - 07:53

    lol

  • Dont Care on 06/06/2020 - 08:04

    Yeah ok mate go and pursue this through the courts. Money well spent.

  • afoveht on 06/06/2020 - 08:18
    +1

    Bikies?

    Or maybe it was bikies?

    • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2020 - 14:02

      The next sign of the apocalypse is that bikies are now coming to OzBargain for help.

  • Quantumcat on 06/06/2020 - 08:32
    +5

    Hey this happened to me. I found a witness, and when the bike was recovered (smashed) I found a helmet and gloves under the seat which weren't mine. Police refused to follow up on anything no matter how much I called them and visited the station for updates. And I was in a sleepy country town where there's probably not much other excitement for them.

    Police are completely useless, unless you're a black person wanting to get assaulted then they're all on top of it.

    • HeWhoKnows on 06/06/2020 - 08:42
      -2

      What did you want them to do?
      The bike was uncovered
      There is nothing to find or prove.
      Car and bike thefts are left up to insurance companies to sort out.

      • JetBombat on 06/06/2020 - 10:46
        +5

        Like try to find those who broke the law and could be danger to other people?

        • pegaxs on 06/06/2020 - 11:03
          -7

          could be danger to other people…

          Because people who sneak in under the cover of darkness to steal $1,000 partly dismantled project bikes often go on to become serial killers… Stealing shitbox bikes is the gateway activity to mass murder…

          • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:18
            +2

            @pegaxs: Bike was on my allocated parking spot, locked with a chain and covered up. Can I come in your garden at night and look around for "junk" I like to take?

            • pegaxs on 06/06/2020 - 20:41
              -3

              @Franconian:

              Bike was on my allocated parking spot

              Didn't say it wasn't…

              locked with a chain and covered up.

              Didn't say it wasn't…

              Can I come in your garden at night and look around for "junk" I like to take?

              You missed the point. I didn't say it was "ok" to do what they did. I just said that people who go around stealing bikes in the dead of night are hardly criminal masterminds that are a "danger to other people". They are more likely opportunists at best. (Most likely bogan teenagers if anything.)

              But sure, if you want to come into my yard with all my CCTV, my dog, my neighbours dogs and risk getting your knees broken with a baseball bat, have at it. Send me a PM and I'll give you my address, only if you don't mind your hi-jinx ending up on YouTube :)

              • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:58
                +2

                @pegaxs: Scum bags like this are a danger to other people and there should be a consequence for their actions.
                An opportunist picks an unattended bag etc. but does not break a chain and load a motorcycle on a ute.

                • pegaxs on 06/06/2020 - 23:12
                  -1

                  @Franconian: They are not a “danger”… they are pests, degenerates and scumbags, criminals, etc… but hardly “dangerous”, you know, unless they were grinding your bikes lock chain off and not using the correct PPE gear…

                  And I never said that they should not be held accountable for their actions. You are forcing that into my side of the conversation and I simply did not say it. They should totally be held accountable… but it doesn’t make them “dangerous”.

                  And an opportunist does exactly that. They walk past, see a bike unattended and possibly neglected, and they take it. This is one way that bikes get stolen. Hence my comment “more likely” not “absolutely”… You don’t know if these guys were planning this for weeks or if they just happen to be in he area and noticed it at the time…

                  A “danger” to others… Give me a break… wooooo watch out, stealing bikes leads to harder crimes… They go from bikes, to cars, to robbing grannies and then to starting ponzi schemes and onto corporate fraud and starting revolutions in 3rd world countries and finally to genocide…

                  The only dangerous thing these dumbarses did was probably not have their electrical equipment tag and tested and not wearing their high vis garb.

                  • Pigsy3 on 07/06/2020 - 08:43
                    -1

                    @pegaxs: You're right, motor vehicle theft should go unpunished. What type of car do you drive?

                    • pegaxs on 07/06/2020 - 09:03
                      +1

                      @Pigsy3: “🎶🎵Do you want to build a strawman?🎵🎶”

                      Not what I said or inferred. It’s what you want me to have said. It’s called a strawman and it’s easier to attack the thing you want me to have said… But feel free to get outraged at what I didn’t say and leave a stupid comment showing you also didn’t read what I actually said…

                      Don’t forget to waste you’re negs on something that I never said but you think I said because you saw all the other negs and thought you would make up some shit that I didn’t say…

                      Just in case you missed it, (and I know you did based on your erroneous comment) what I actually said on the matter relating to punishment was…

                      I never said that they should not be held accountable for their actions…. They should totally be held accountable…

                      My original comment was made around the quote that these people are “dangerous”. Not if they should go unpunished.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2020 - 11:22

        Just grab the gloves and helmet and take a picture.

        Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Run that through the registry.

        You've got em' now.

        • Quantumcat on 06/06/2020 - 12:26

          They would have had fingerprints. If they matched the person who the witness saw taking the bike (who knew him at school) surely that would be pretty clear proof of who stole it?

    • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2020 - 11:48
      +7

      Police are completely useless, unless you're a black person wanting to get assaulted then they're all on top of it.

      Unwarranted. Not all cops are racists who abuse their power or useless. Case in point:

      14 boys rescued from 'most horrific' child-exploitation ring uncovered in Australia.

  • HeWhoKnows on 06/06/2020 - 08:41
    -3

    7 months and no rego?
    Forget it
    Its untraceable anyway

  • [Deactivated] on 06/06/2020 - 09:13
    -2

    💯 lawyer up

  • iforgotmysocks on 06/06/2020 - 09:19

    Maybe you should have insured or secured it.

    • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:21

      Was locked with a thick chain and covered. Can't insure unregistered vehicles and probably no point for a project bike. Fact is that the police had camera footage, identified the thief and did nothing with it.

  • holdenmg on 06/06/2020 - 09:36
    +4

    self insured and lost.

  • oscargamer on 06/06/2020 - 10:37
    +2

    Call and ask the police officer.

    If a person has been charged, police might be able to put in a compensation claim for your loss in their paperwork to the court.

    • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:22

      I have tried to call, but investigating officer never called back and person I spoke to did not give any information.

      • oscargamer on 06/06/2020 - 23:55
        +1

        Here's an idea, talk to the station Sergeant or Senior Sergeant.

  • TheBilly on 06/06/2020 - 14:31
    +1

    Moving forward you can get an inexpensive GPS tracker you can conceal on easily stolen vehicles such as Dirtbikes, Motorbikes, Boats, Trailers, Push Bikes etc. I would save the court or investigation money and just spend it on something like this next time.

    • steven6 on 06/06/2020 - 19:49

      That's a great idea, but unfortunately in my case police told me I must be able to sight the stolen vehicle (it was on private property) for them to get a search warrant.

      • TheBilly on 06/06/2020 - 19:59

        Wow, didn't know this. So you can't just go in and take your property back?

    • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:22

      Problem is to keep the tracker charged and well hidden…

      • TheBilly on 06/06/2020 - 21:04
        +1

        Yes, hidden is no issue some are very creative. The charge usually lasts a few weeks so you have to be diligent.

  • steven6 on 06/06/2020 - 15:50
    +1

    You're a nobody just like me and most other people and this is why the police don't do their job. If you were say someone important like Donald Trump or a police officer I'm sure they would try their best.

  • BuyoTheCat on 06/06/2020 - 15:56

    it is a matter of reporting is stolen and give them the vin# so it is reported stolen.
    I have had 1 scooter stolen over 10 years ago and last year had my motorbike stolen.

    The police are not actively looking for the stolen bikes. If there are obvious leads, they will follow it up. e.g. if you see a fb post selling stuff your bike (or bike parts) you can report the page to them and they will follow it up.

    If they happens to come across it (dumped or when they do an inspection at a trackday, they will notify you when they recover it.)

    • Franconian on 06/06/2020 - 20:25

      Yes, I did give my VIN and engine number. I was at least hoping that the bike will be registered as stolen on the PPSR register. This did not happen.

      I did not have high hopes, but would have thought that CCTV footage and identifying the thief clearly with ute and number plate would have been an obvious lead.

      • BuyoTheCat on 07/06/2020 - 14:45

        If they have the rego# they would follow it up. However i dont think they will play by play of their investigation.

        That was the impression i got.

  • AmandaG on 08/06/2020 - 09:54
    +1

    I'd say Bikies….

  • tonyjzx on 08/06/2020 - 17:13

    The problem the OP has is that he assumes the video footage is the magic bullet.

    The bike was loaded into a ute and therefore I assume he thinks that the plate is visible in the footage or that somehow the police can ID the people in the video.

    If they cant or the footage is a dead end then where does the police go?

    What is the plates were stolen? What if the footage is unclear.

    Unless the police can answer this then there's nothing anyone can do.

    OP should have followed up further with the police on why they couldnt proceed with the video.

    Otherwise there's no possible course of action.

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