Is this flashlight illegal in australia?

The "acebeam W30"
Its a flashlight "white laser" but not a traditional laser

https://www.acebeam.com/w30
https://youtu.be/i0tEax6SMtc

Some stores sell it here. But if u got caught with it would you be in trouble?

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    • +2

      Yes, I dont know why you think this is some kind of "funny" issue, my kids have very sensistive eyes and I wouldnt hesitate to call the "flashlight police' AKA the real poilice on any youths with these kind of lazers

        • -3

          thats the way they spell it where im from, but thanks for the condescension, much appreciate bud =) i suppose your kids get to start right into whatever lights they like, explains a lot…

          • +14

            @MatthewSanchez65: No, that’s not how you spell it where you are from. It’s an acronym. Stop being a drama queen.

            • -8

              @[Deactivated]: pretty sexist term to use there, not that i woulkd expect anything less from a man who makes a habit of staring at torches

              • -3

                @MatthewSanchez65: Good one, but if you’re trying to imply that we’re having a battle of intellects, you’re sadly mistaken.

              • +3

                @MatthewSanchez65:

                pretty sexist

                gender neutral

                your reaction being a working example…

              • +3

                @MatthewSanchez65: Nah men can be drama queens too these days, so it's not a sexist term.

                Maybe a gendered insult, but that's not what you claimed.

                Then again, genders don't exist right? So can't be a gendered insult either.

                The slope is slippery indeed.

                I personally identify as a Chinook helicopter.

          • +1

            @MatthewSanchez65: lazer ~ leisure in portugese?
            laser ~ acronym universal

      • It's only 500 lumens. A 50w halogen downlight is more than that.

    • Hey buddy. How’s the lockdown treating ya? Must be getting a wee bit annoying aye?

  • I believe it falls in somewhat of a grey area - I’ve seen it referred to as a class 2 and 3 laser in different places. While it uses LEP tech, it’s not technically a laser pointer; the product is still a torch/flashlight. The laser is used to excite phosphor, you’re not actually shooting lasers out the end of the torch.

    Just my 0.02. That said, I’m probably wrong about some of that.

  • +1

    Wow, Now that's a torch beam. So compact as well. Good for watching animals at night.

    • +1

      It's crazy how good it is and compact too. I have no use for one but I want one after watching that video.

      • Yeah me to, but the price is steep. I still have all my Bunnings torches from previous OZb sales. Not that those ones are anywhere near as good as this one.

      • Needs to go with a good telescope to let you look at things from 2.5km away as if they were 10 meters away or less….

  • +13

    fleshlights are legal in australia.

    • And even if they were legal you can’t cure corona virus with them.

      • can cure blue balls with them, and that's just as good.

  • -2

    Surely building a large wall at Tweed Heads would be better than pointing a torch at those from down South…

  • +4

    Not sure but I have played with that light.

    It is not very useful. It doesn't dim and the hotspot is so blinding. The only reason why you'd want one is to deliberately blind someone.

    If you want a super bright long thrower that can be useful (albeit still super redundant), get a BLF GT90.

  • As they state, it's the same technology used in the new laser headlights developed by BMW. I'd buy one if I had a use.

  • +2

    Does not emit laser light.
    Like many things it is not illegal to buy or sell but may be illegal in how it is used. E.g. shine it in a helicopter pilots eyes, blind someone driving a car etc… you are going to get charged.

  • +1

    It is legal though calling it a white laser is a stretch

  • see comment above

  • +1

    500 lumens is hardly in the realm of "illegal". About half of what your average car high beam headlights are. 500 lumens would be about the same power as a 30~40w halogen globe.

    • +6

      It may not be blinding in the sense of permanent retina damage but the concentration of the beam as well as the beam pattern means as a user, you are going to experience a massive contrast between the lighted circle and the darkness. You're not going to be able to see the details of the lighted area.

      • +1

        Spot on, that small, overly exposed, unadjustable beam is great for a few minutes when showing people but has no real use though maybe does to OP but I think he may be buying for the numbers rather than a real use.

        • +2

          Haha. It is a pretty impressive throw distance but after reading the review, I thought it best to see the unit in real life before pulling the trigger.

          Glad I did, it's definitely not suitable for general use.

          It is a laser though. The way the beam is formed makes it categorically a laser.

      • +4

        While I agree, as this appears to just be a narrow focused beam type projection… 500 lumens is still hardly in the vicinity of "illegal" and certainly not even close to being a traditional "laser". The lit area would have little detail (like over exposure) while the dark areas would be just that, still dark.

        Would I like to have it shone in my face for any long period of time, no. Is it going to get the police involved if you try to bring down an AirPol chopper with it, I doubt it.

        All it really is is just a bright torch with a narrow focus, that's all. All the "This might be illegal soon!" hype is just marketing bullshit to dupe people into buying one by making them think it may be "banned" tomorrow.

        • +3

          The illegal part pertains to the laser.

          In this case, "reflected" laser.

          I doubt it because not all lasers are illegal and in this case, even though a laser is being deployed, the visible light is emitted from phosphor (hence the abbreviation of LEP) and is only as harmful as any other light.

          (Totally agree with the marketing bovine manure.)

        • +4

          If you shone this torch at Polair I can almost guarantee you'll get a visit from the wallopers. Whether you would be charged or not would be left up to the police prosecutor, but I'm guessing they probably would find something to charge you with - just not under the laser pointer laws.

  • +1

    True white lasers don't even exist.

  • Buy it, keep out of childrens reach

    Resist the urge to light up police helicopters too

  • Yikes near 2.5km range!

    • -1

      Do you think the OP is trying to compensate for a lack of range downstairs?

      • +1

        Take it you're offering to investigate and report back…

      • I don't know about OP but I love flashlights. I'm running out of excuses with my spouse to own more torches though!

        • Have you tried -> Oh this torch - I've had it a long time but it's just been sitting in the workshop. It works for new shoes apparently.

      • An extreme lack of range downstairs. But this light has nothing to do with that. I just have a torch buying addiction.

        • -1

          if u have an addition, who cares if its illegal or not…..just like drugs….thats why people still do it….also you must be asian…

  • +1

    Awesome personal defence item.

    Still, giving someone 300 bucks will probably get them to leave you alone too.

  • +3

    I think the pricing is what is illegal …

  • Nice.
    I was not aware of the technology.
    I don't think it is illegal.
    The best option is to print out the page and ask in a police station.
    That is what I would do if I was in the market for one of those.
    What I know for sure is that those batterys are lithium.
    I would never hold an unknown brand lithium battery inside my first.
    It worth more than the risk of a explosion taking it off.

  • The best option is to print out the page and ask in a police station

    You are unlikely to get a definitive answer at a police station. While the police uphold the law, they are not experts in all aspects and what you will get is just an opinion from the desk sergeant. You would likely get as many different opinions as officers you ask.

    • desk sergeant

      If you are lucky.
      We usually get a civilian doing clerical work at the Police Station.

      Back to the point:
      I doubt they will be illegal to "own".
      Perhaps restricted when and how to use.
      Besides being obscenely expensive I see little use other than hunting (distant prey) or ocean fishing. Or security.
      May be for astronomy to pinpoint stars or locations without needing a proper green laser (if able to get a permit).

  • the LEP light-emitting principle of acebeam W30, I just found it from this link;
    https://www.acebeam.com/Images/uploaded/W30/2.jpg

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