Help with dealing with this tradie please

I'm asking on behalf of my female friend, who is quite a soft-spoken woman with a lot of anxiety and has had some issues with the tradesman, both in terms of workmanship and personality, so has asked me to step in. I myself have very little experience with engaging tradesman for renovations, hence why I'm asking here.

She engaged a licensed tradesman to renovate the bathroom and kitchen of her 3 bedroom house which she purchased at the start of this year. Basically, she was given a quote in writing and a brief contract (which I haven't seen), before the work started, which was expected to finish in May this year. Around early May, she had a look at it (and brought me along too) and we noticed that the drainage of the bathroom floor was poor, as the angle of the tiling wasn't right, leading to stagnation. There were a few hiccups with the alignment of kitchen cabinetry, e.g. one of the corner doors had some obstruction/resistance to opening, so requires a fair bit of power to open.

She addressed the issues with the tradie and he apparently got really angry with her, and asserted that he did a great job. He agreed to repair it but came back like a month later, and again another 3 weeks after that. The kitchen issue was rectified, but the bathroom issue persisted. She asked for the bathroom floor to be re-done. He returned at the start of August to do this, and emailed my friend last Thursday stating that he has completed everything.

Meanwhile, she's away on annual leave in north QLD and was shocked to see the bill. He jacked up the original quote by 80% - added on extra for extra material and labour for claiming to re-do the bathroom twice. My friend told him she will be back home this Wednesday, but in spite of this, he has kept asking her for the money every day since last Thursday, and threatened to charge interest. In panic, my friend asked me to check it out tomorrow and have a chat to the tradie on her behalf. I anticipate a not-so-friendly conversation regarding several issues e.g.:
1. Can he really charge interest, given that he should only be paid once the work is satisfactorily complete
2. Can he really jack up the written quote by 80% when it's his fault for poor workmanship?
3. Can he blame my friend for delay in payment, when this project should have been completed 3 months ago, and he took his time to come back and fix the issues (instead of doing so promptly)

I appreciate your advice!! I am clueless as you can tell!

Comments

  • +12

    She shouldn't have to pay more than the original quote given that all he's done is what was asked of him in the first place. He hasn't been given any more work. If the original amount has been paid, and your friend is satisfied with the bathroom (maybe get someone more qualified to come and inspect it). Then she is within her rights to tell him to f-off.

    • +1

      Thanks, that's how I feel too! She has paid him 60% of the original quote so far, and was going to pay the 40% on completion.

    • +1

      tell tradie to go away. Sounds like he won't do anymore work without extra payment, so if anything does need fixing, might have to get another tradie.

      For big jobs like this, always ask for references. If a tradie can't give many, find another tradie.

  • +4

    I don't know the answers. I'm very sorry to hear. But just remain calm when you discuss the matter. Don't piss the tradie off even more

  • +15

    He quoted for work that would meet the building standards and certification. If his work didn't meet certification he is responsible for fixing that and he can't charge you for it. Otherwise a tradie would only have one job a year, keep doing it terribly and charging to fix it, over and over and over..

    He is playing the interest card to make her panic and pay. The timeline set in the quote was for the finished job, if it is past that time and no new terms were agreed to he can't charge interest.

    I think that last part is key though, if no new terms were agreed to then I would say he can't charge more. Otherwise what is the point of the contract.

    This is not based on my knowledge of law, I am not a tradesperson. I would say don't panic, don't pay and call the appropriate building licensing authority tomorrow for advice.

    • This is solid advice. Cheers!

  • +4

    I am clueless as you can tell!

    TBH, you're probably not the right person to be confronting this guy - not that there's anything wrong with it. My concern is, when the pressure's on, you might inadvertently agree on things that he could turn around and use on your friend later. I think it's best is to bring someone that knows their shit and has dealt with something like this before that won't back down very easily.

  • You've mentioned he's a licensed tradie. Licensed to do what? Is he a builder without restrictions?

    Check his license against what he is allowed and not allowed to do. Ask for required forms for notifiable works to be provided including electrical, plumbing and waterproofing before handing over the money.

    If he was licensed to undertake the job and all aspects have been done by the book then you need to think if your friends was being unreasonable or if the workmanship was really bad and did you save any photos to prove? Accordingly you'll have to deal with him.
    Nonetheless, it was his responsibility to inform your friend of the change in price BEFORE taking on that scope or redoing it.
    If he did not then don't worry about it and don't give into rogue tradies trying to g get more money out of you. He can't charge your friend interest or whatever he is claiming.
    He will have to take her to small claims court where his case will be thrown out immediately.

    Cheers!
    ( P.S-This is not legal advice)

  • If the tradie did not confirm the extra work that was done would cost more than the original quote before doing said work, then no she doesn't have to pay more than was originally agreed.

  • Ok. Haven't read anything more than your post op.

    Get the contract. Read the contract. Then engage a professional to resolve your friends problem.

  • I've engaged with tradies in the past and theyre a special kind of human beings. Sorry if youre the good ones, but the bad ones are just everywhere.

  • report him to consumer affairs as they license him? complain to consumer affiars. all useful to get resolution. get legal advice if you can afford it.

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